[sparky]

Hi all......well, the suboxone works...i'm lovin my suboxone honeymoon..ha ha....this time I'm going to milk it for all its worth...I do have to get out of the I "need to take a pill" syndrome. I find that I still look for that "altered" state of mind in some way or another.Gee, what's wrong with feeling good and straight....hmmmm

[morticia]

Sparky~,
I'm so proud of you you made that first call! good for you hun, im so happy for you, and i'm also very glad that your going to NA you'll be back and better in no time, we all go through a down time in our lives when we are addcits, but you made it through and i'm just thrilled , that you made your first step and made the call. how do you feel? now that your on the sub? did you say the doc gave you somas for the pain? thats good if he/she did.
sorry about the other post for some reason i thought you were male until Lisa told me, im so embarrassed. I truly am sorry. I feel like such an idiot lol [:I]

well anyway congrates to you


Lisa~ how are you doing today? hope all is well with you I got a celebrating meeting tonight someone at NA is celebrating 14 years isnt that great! can you imagine? we will all be there someday i know we will be hope to hear from you soon.

Tam~ how are you doing ? how did your appt go? i hope it went well, how's the little guy? did you get your xmas tree up yet? I got mine up. the day after Thanksgiving talk about early right? lol[:I] hope to hear from you soon. take care

Tinkers~ its good to see you post again

ChrisH~ I got up the nerve to ask that girl to be my sponsor she said no cuz she's only on the 4th step herself so she couldnt sponsor me but thats ok i'll keep looking i'm not gonna let that get me down, in fact im not gonna let haters get me dowm i know where i'm at and NA is has definalty made me stronger and wiser i share constanlty and i feel good about my self in NA i know i'll always be an addict but with the help of my higher power and the power of the support of NA my ways of thinking are definalty differnt, i was an aweful addict i couldnt do a thing my self esteem was low and i just didnt give a **** about anything but that next pill but now that im off the pills and going to the meetings i feel refreshed and my self esteem has gone up and im not gonna let ANYONE take that from me. you were right NA is a great place to be i met so many diffent ppl excahanged numbers and dial them not file them so just reading your past posts about NA gave me the courage to go to a meeting and i thank you for your words of encouagement i really appracite them.
Thank you for NA your an inspiration

Clean Date:10/16/06

Just For Today

Luv N Hugs,
Clarkie

[sparky]

HEY MORT....THATS OK...ABOUT MY GENDER...AS WE SEEM TO KEEP ANONYMOUS TO A POINT...SO I MISSED THE NA MEETING TODAY...BUT MY PLAN IS TO GO AND MEET SOME LOCAL PEOPLE IN MY SITUATION...I FEEL GOOD ON SUB ...ALWAYS DID THE FIRST TIME AROUND TOO. FELT A LITTEL SLEEPY, LIKE I TOOK TO MUCH...BUT I'LL ADJUST IT....STILL HAVE THAT GOTTA TAKE A PILL SYNDROME THOUGH....HAS ANY ONE HEARD IF MIXING A GLASS OF WINE WITH SUBOXONE IS AN ISSUE...SINCE ALCHOHOL ISN'T THE PROBLEM CAN WE SAFELY DRINK..CURIOUS...THANKS

[Bigpimpin2730]

hey everybody... tomorrow i go to the doctor and tell him about my addiction. im scared b/c im going to have to be the most honest ive been in years with a stranger. Should I ask about Suboxone or just see what he says??? help

[GotDaMotts]

I can deal with the physical withdrawal, never was too much of a problem for me, but the MENTAL! The worst part of this addiction is that I have become someone else. I know that most everyone in this situation feels the same way. I am so very much on my game, impressive to people. Once I am out, forget it, I cannot concentrate, cannot do a damn thing except think about the next time I'll get them. I have had back problems for years, though was taking lorcet recreationally. A few here and there, special occassions, parties. Like having a few drinks, but still able to function, you know. I moved away from the source and it was hard at first, but I was finally done. Then about 2 years later, we moved back to the area that I could get some "Motts". Then my back got really bad and I was prescribed some. I was happy that I didn't have to go to the black market. Problem is, when I really needed them, I had to take so many for them to work due to my tolerance. So now I am gobbling up 120 Perc 10/325's in a week or so. Leaving me 2-3 weeks to scavenge until my next Dr. visit. I have to do it all secretly so my wife doesn't find out. I haven't gotten to any point of stealing...and if I cannot get any for a few weeks, I get over it...then when I am offered, I jump at the chance. I keep telling myself that i will quit once I get through some of the obstacles i am trying to get through. One day soon, but not yet, I am not ready. Here's the main problem now: my Doc wants to save my liver and give me Roxi's. I cannot find much information about it. I know a guy who snorts the stuff, but do i ask him the medicinal facts? No, I don't really think he is a credible source for information. I hear that they make the percs and lorcs seem like pez. I can also get rid of the Roxi's to someone who I know will use them, and then use that to fund a lorc supply...but god, what next? My biggest problem is my back. I truly have immense pain when i stop the pills. Advil and Aleve are really no help.

This was my first "public" admission of this problem. I know I am going to quit when i am ready. Sadly it is not now. But when I do I will finally be free of this - but the back will hurt like a somenice lady and I'll really be miserable. Thanks for reading, or passing it by.

My God, It's full of Stars

[LISA GIRL]

******************ATTENTION ABEY********************

At first I tried to hold my tongue. After your second post of telling Morticia she is not clean, I made a subtle comment and thought you might get the hint. But here you are again Abey, making posts that are designed it seems only to antoganize a fellow addict. Obviously you guys have some history. I am not interested in that. I saw how you treated another member of this thread in another thread months ago. It was truly embarrassing for you. Why don't you spend less time worrying about Morticia and more time worrying about your own issues because you obviously have more issues than just your addiction.

This thread has always been one of support and encouragement. It makes me angry that I am having even address this but it has gone on too long. Morticia being a better person than me has chosen to ignore you, but I cannot tolerate your continued negativity. You have made your point. You think that because she is on methadone she is not clean. Yeah we get it. She still has opiates in her system. I am on suboxone. I do too. But we don't get high. We are using treatment to help us with our problem. Sorry if this doesn't fit in with what is the proper course of treatment in your opinion.

If you were posting out of genuine concern that would be one thing. But your posts are dripping with sarcasm.("I hate to burst your bubble...") You are not concerned with a member's condition.. you apparently just want to make sure she doesn't feel too good about herself. Do you feel that poorly about your own self that you need to do that? Are YOU clean?

From now on, if you want to spout your negativity please do it somewhere else.

Again, I apologize to everyone but I can't believe this ****. It angers me beyond belief.. Morticia be proud of yourself. Again, don't let the haters get you down.

All for tonight.. Have a pain and craving free evening..

Lisa

[LISA GIRL]

quote:Originally posted by abey042000

Mort~

I hate to burst ur bubble, but u are far from being clean. The reason ur not craving the pain meds is cuz ur body has something stronger in it. I hear u telling people that their misinformed about mdone, but I believe u are, and with me knowing you personally, I'm so sorry for u that ur gonna be on mdone for life. There was many of other options out there for u. Of course u chose mdone.......cuz its an opiate. Do the people at ur NA know ur on mdone? I bet not. To me u are saying your clean from opiates but YOU are FAR from it. I would truly dimise being in ur shoes right now.

Forgot to quote you above...why don't you read your post again and remember that old adage about not saying anything if you don't have anything nice to say...?

[nymommy]

it's been a while since i posted..i'm currently weaning off sub...first i'd like to address sparky , who was brave enough to admit her "slip" as lisa as said, get back on the horse..i'm feelin good, but never confident enough to think i'm in the "clear" so to speak..sparky ..your sleep problems can be a number of things...i struggled w/ sleep issues even before i had vic issues..i dont know your age , but if your in the "hormonal"age sleep is hard to come by..for me i fall asleep, but 3 hrs later i'm up, cant go back to sleep..so yea, i take a sleep aid...seperate issue..sleep is very important so do what ya gotta do...good luck in your recovery,,,you're gonna make it cause now you know you CANT use recreationally..period!..i recently went back to smoking..addiction transfer, they call it...when i quit again, and i will, i will know i can never have a cigarette again...lessons learned~~~~abbey...why are you soo determined to knock people?? this forum is about respect, support..if your looking for a fight, your in the wrong neighborhood ..i can point you to the right one if you'd like

[unclenasty93]

Lisa Girl,

Right on!! I too was quite upset with abey's post to Mort. To those of you who have found the guts to stop your drugs of choice and are only taking methadone or suboxone now, well done! Morticia is always telling people how proud of them she is and what a good job they are doing and she seems to truly care about others. Why Abey feels the need to be so negative and disrespectful is beyond me. I'm glad you jumped on her, you also are an awesome person! mike.

[morticia]

hi Big~
I think it takes a lot of courage to go to your doc and tell him/her that you have an addiction to pain meds, thats what i told my doc i told him that i felt i was getting to addicted to the pain pills and he said you can do one of two things go to detox or try let me try to bring you down, by a couple of pills each time you come in , i have chronic back pain. and i said to myself this is more than just a little addiction this is getting out of hand, so i decided to go to detox for 5 days and i never felt better, so i think you should go to your doc and be honest then he can recommend diffent options for you i heard suboxone is a good choice he can probably recommend a doc that priscribes it cuz only certain quilifed docs can prescribe sub, and they have to motitor you but im not sure how often you have to go but you cant take any pain meds while on sub cuz the docs do piss tests to make sure that your not using. i think you should at least let him know that you may have a problem, do it for you not anyone else, but look into the sub its a great med just read the other ppls post on it it works wonders.
and maybe check out an NA meeting you can get alot from NA i started NA a month ago and i love it a nice bunch of ppl they are and they really understand where your coming from..i just celebrated my first 30 days clean, so if you like give it try you wont regret it,
hope this helps you out a little, good luck to you keep us posted on what you decide.


Clean Date:10/16/06

Just For Today

Luv N Hugs,
Clarkie

[morticia]

to all my supportive and caring friends here on this forum~
a big thank you to all who have supported me through my tough times, and through my addiction, i know that there is a "hater" on this board who has nothing else better to do then to bring ppl down i dont know why, it just doesnt make any sense to me but i really apprciated you all helping me through this situation, it is very hard to see someone putting you down because of what you have accomplished, and for the record i m very proud of myself for once i dont have much self esteem and going to NA and posting here has giving me self worth and beating pills after a long 16 years is a big accomplishment, i know im on methadone its for my back pain. not to get high you dont get high on methadone it just helps me be able to sleep in a bed at night instead of a recliner chair and ive also \lost weight which aslo helps with my back, i get my meth through a pain doc i know what i was getting myself into and i know i probably have to be on it for life but thats ok , ppl at NA understand my situation and they are very supportive, i thank God, this forum and all of you who have given me the stenght to get through my addction.
i'll always be an addcit i cant change that but i can, make changes and continue my NA meetings and help others i want to be a sponsor someday and help ppl with their addiction.

so thank you all again i really do apprciate all that was said on my behalf, it made me feel special! love you guys !


Clean Date:10/16/06

Just For Today

Luv N Hugs,
Clarkie

[LISA GIRL]

Uncle Nasty (Dave) How are you likin' this weather we have been having? (For those who don't know or remember, we are in Denver and it's been COLD!) Good to see you and thanks for the props!

Morticia, I hope that all didn't make you uncomfortable and I hope it is over. I thought it was over last time but maybe not. Us addicts have more important things to worry about than what one uninformed nay sayer posts on a web forum. [] So keep up the good work!

*******still looking for Lazer, Kaidog, Angela...Patmamma...Amy.. and ANYONE we haven't seen in a while... let us know how you are..


Sparky ...Congrats on the decision to try the sub again. I think Tinkers is right. Don't sweat getting off it too quickly...staying on it may make for a more difficult taper, but better that down the road when we are more removed from a d.o.c. than risking a slip...I applaud you for how you handled everything. It sucks do you know you can't use pills recreationally. I would love to take one here or there... once a week to chill out. But it never works like that for us so we know...no pills.. not one...or at least that is the ideal.

[bigbopper]

Another newbie.....after 20 years of off and on medication use; medically necessary and therapeutic to be sure...mostly hydros and to a lesser extent oxy I find myself looking for a sub doctor. After 20 years of being lied to by "healers" played for an idiot, punted from golf partner to golf partner find myself rather to very distrustful of MDs in eneral and the young "textbook-quotin" ones in particular. The several Sub Docs I have called seem to be distinguished by the absolute lack of their staff being capable of grasping the complex nature of my questions compounded by the extreme lack of knowledge about the need of an opioid dependant patient. I have heard "give us your name and we'll call you when he starts the program" or he's just had the training....he don't actually see patients ( do they get paid for getting the training like thay do for pushing Ritalin et al on our children)? It appears to be like pulling teeth to find a program. I am so sick of calling these people and getting the runaround...Apparently the average phone-answerer" don't know jack about the problems that go with medicaldependency on opioids whether it is for fun or so that one can make a living. It is also a lot easier to become motivated to seek to address the problem when you see that pill count dropping and refill time is rolling around. I have yet to talk to anyone who seems to care at all beyond just making a buck. I have also been told that " we have another treatment available involving a 3 day detox....duh....but uh er uh we give you meds to make it better"...duh uh if I could do it in 3 days I wouldn't need them. Is this normal for seeking a sub doc? I would like to stop taking meds completely and hope that after my last surgery I may not need them at all but when I tried to come off the meds at that time it was too close to the surgery to no longer need them. I would like to no lon ger need them but I can't tell without a sub program to taper me off of them. Yeah I know about CT as I have done it, at one time, about every third week earlier in my pain management program but at this time it is not a viable possible scenaro to contemplate. ith sub I think I would be able to avoid all the litle brain twinges and pschycological complications telling me how badly I need it if in fact the primary reason may have finally healed. Tylenol issues are becoming well...issues so there is that to consider also. How can one find a Doc ho is geniinely concerned about helping you get down or off of high levels of opioids? Who isn't just punching up his resume b\y getting the training for adminstering suboxone? I can't discuss it with my paim management Doctor...he will freak and cut me off and I do want to keep that option open and available in the event that the last surgery did not fix the crushed ilioinguinal/iliohaypogastric nerve plex that spent most of the last 20 years bound up like they were in a vise and sooo ignored due to not being textbook diagnoses....now the last surgeon, who took 6 months to decide to try to fix this problem again, is going or has gone to prison for trolling up a 13 year old lover on the 'net...so he will be unavailable for consults for a decade or two....I may face issues of reinervation, clooateral inervation or possibly collateral reinervation so I can't be sure that I won't need the meds in the future....since I have dosage issues precipitated by the stress of a ill spouse ( we all know what stress does to neuro-based pain )my dosages increased based on the total frustration from being totally unable to mitigate her situation at all and simply put my pain increased.....any ideas? any advice? I have made provisions to get assista nce with regulating and moderating my doses but I can't cut down alone. The horrific time element now associated with tting set up in a pain management clinic would tend to keep me from discussing this with my pain management Doc and I remain almost without any resources for support and assistance....any response will be appreciated

[sparky]

Wow....big bobber....you said a mouthful...welcome to the forum...someway or another...we on this board can give you pointers and hopefully get you on your way to finding a solution....I surely hope you have not exhausted every sub doctor source...as I believe taking sub to get off your DOC (drug of choice) worked for me and many others...do the pain meds help your pain anymore? this is important because if they don't and you are taking them purely because you are addicted and fear w/d...finding another solution for your back pain..not knowing how severe your back pain is, I'm at a loss for suggestions....but in my case..I highly exaggerated my pain just to get more meds...yes, my back hurts but if I took care of it with excercise, massage therapy, and strength training, I find my pain is livable....if your back is way more severe than that, possibly a different type of med could help...anyway...seems I'm rambling but back to suboxone...it works....what area of the country do you live?...perhaps you can get some referalls from doc who have proven to be legitimately concerned about the addicts welfare...hope I have helped a little...good luck with your research and finding reliable help..

[tinkers]

Lisa,

I have to agree with you, you made a very good statment that I wish I could have as well I think some people get mad that other have some sort of peace in there lifes and they dont they do have a history I have seen past posts also well said.

Mort,
Dont let it get to you, you are doing the right thing and if you do have real pain stuff like sub wont work for you so you do what you have to and thats good for you.

[morticia]

Lisa~ thank you so very much for what you did i think you were in the right she needed to be put in her place..and no i actually felt a whole lot better when i read your post. it made me feel like i have really true friends in here, like you i really appracited what you said cuz its all true, and unforunlty we did know each other and i could if i wanted spead her personal biusness all over this forum , but im not that type to do a thing like that i wont because i believe that ,thats her personal buisness and i just wont stoop to her level she's just very sick and an active addict and if she wants to be like that so be...but i hope i dont contiune to be harassed like that anymore cuz im getting sick of it.

Right on Lisa!!!!!!!!!
thanks again for everything your a great and a very special person and i hope we can become closer friends feel free to email me anytime.hope to hear from you soon hun, hubby also thank you too


Clean Date:10/16/06

Just For Today

Luv N Hugs,
Clarkie

[tinkers]

All,

Just a little note on the sub taper I have been on sub for I think about 9 months I started at 3 8mg a day and I now take 1/4 of an 8mg 2 times a day by my own choice my doctor thinks its too fast and he may be right I dont know how to explain it but after time you just no when to take less and like I said before I forget to take them some times especial when im off work because that messes with my time frames anyway my best advice to you all is give it time you may think you have it licked and it just might bit you in the butt I was there I know give it time it works learn to live again good luck.

[nymommy]

forget Hillary~~~lisa for president!!..i wanted to respond to Big~i had problems w/ incompetant staff..some not even knowing what the sub program was...hello, YOU work for the doctor..right now i'm trying to dispute a bill for a sub appt..when i called the billing dept, THEY didnt know what sub was..so yes that is frustrating...from what i read hear some doctors are more seasoned/experienced w/ the sub program (angela's)...some just dose you and you're on your way (lisa's)..mine is somewhere in the middle...i personally learned more here than anywhere...keep looking you will find him/her, you might have to travel...i'm sure you checked the website already...another point is , with back pain as severe as yours, is it not possible you might have to remain on pills the rest of your life?...if that's the case my opinion, is sub wouldnt be a choice for you, i could be wrong...i hope you figure something out..i'm currently tapering off sub..hopefully 2 more weeks..good luck

[morticia]

big~ i was reading your post and i was wondering if you considered methadone? maybe you can dicuss this with your pain management doc, i'm on meth and i have syatica and also a hernated disc in my back so im was in chronic back pain, not as servere as you but meth is the strongest pain med out there and it doesnt give you that "high" feeling im on 20 mg a day and believe me its helps out alot with my pain, i couldnt sleep in a flat bed i had to sleep in a recliner chair and after being on meth for about 2 months now i can sleep in a flat bed and i wake up with no pain, i discoverd this when i went to detox , they detoxed me with meth and i had no pain at all and it even helped with the w/ds but thats besides the point so when i got out of detox i went straight to pain management and asked my doc to put me on methadone and i have minamal pain just achey but thats it sub dosent help with pain i dont think it does as Tinkers said in his post earlier. its just an idea so think about it but i do have to say that it may be a life long commentment being on meth my doc said i may have to be on it for the rest of my life because i told him that i didnt want back surgery, so and it is an opiate too but unlike other opiates it doesnt get you high it may make you sleepy in the begining depending on the dose but you will get used to it ,oh and also if you do ask for meth ask the doc to prescribe a stool softner and /or laxitive because meth constipates you real bad thats the down side i couldnt go for weeks lol [:I] not that you need to know that lol but i figure i would give you as much info as i can.
good luck , let us know how you make out


Tinkers~thank you for your kind words i wont let the haters get me down[xx(]
[:I]

Clean Date:10/16/06

Just For Today

Luv N Hugs,
Clarkie

[LISA GIRL]

Morticia... I applaud you for being the bigger person. Sometimes it is best to turn the other cheek. Though sometimes you have to nip those things in the bud! I guess we should pity her and know it is her own isssues with herself that makes her so hateful.Like I said, I saw how she treated T on another thread. I am glad that you two have rectified that situation. There is a quote by Oscar Wilde:

"Every saint has a past, every sinner has a future." I love that. Maybe one day the hater will see the light. If so, I would welcome her back as a contributing member to the thread. If not, best she stay away.

This forum has means a lot to me. I have gotten clean thru the help of the people and the information here. I also have met my buddy NY MOMMY who I treasure as much as any friend I have known my entire lifetime. The two of us being both very loyal, will, when seeing a fellow friend/addict here being attacked, attack back. That is just how it's going to be. Sometimes things are said that need to be said that we don't like. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But it is the reason for saying it that is important. Is it meant to help or to harm? That's the key. I just think we all need to protect the supportive nature of this thread at all costs. I have seen some of the other threads on this board.. WOW! People are crazy! So glad we are all so perfect on this one! lol

..BIGBOPPER...Sorry I am of no help. I looked on the www.suboxone.com thread and picked the closest doctor. What a mistake. I get NO real guidance. I am pretty much left to my own to figure this out...with the aid of a prescription. I am sure that there are doctors who are sincerely interested in helping the addict who also has pain management issues, I just don't know how you find one..other than trial and error.. and who has time for all that? If the pain issue is going to continue ( I hope for your sake not) then Morticia may be right about considering methadone.

[LISA GIRL]

GOTDAMOTTS.. Sorry just saw your post..kind of got passed by.. I apologize. Sorry no info on Roxys... anyone know anything about those? I guess your doctor wants to switch you because of your liver but why do you not want to change? If they make the others look like pez as you said, it isn't because you fear you won't get the high...or do you just like your one pill and want to stick with what you know?

Being ready to quit is key. I have quit twice. Once I was ready. Once not so ready (this time.) When you are mentally prepared to quit it is 100x easier. You will do it when you are ready. The liver issue is an issue though. Won't preach to you but hope you consider your doc advice in switching, unless there is a good reason to stay on the Lorcets..?

[morticia]

hi ya Lisa~thank you ,i really like that quote, im glad too that tinkers and I are friends now i was so wrong about what i said to him but i was so caught up in my addiction that i didnt want to hear what ppl had to say, and believe me he has my deepest apologies for not listening to what he was saying i realize now that he was only trying to help me. I mean when i was using (not that its really an excuse for my behavior) i wasnt a very nice person either. i was so caught up in my own little pill world all i was wanting is to get high and not help ,but since then i learned that ppl here are caring understanding and very helpful and i realize that now, they were all trying to help me now i want to give all of that back now i want to get involved , ive learned from my mistakes and all i wanna do is be helpful, i really am a caring person, i love to help ppl here this forum means the world to me because it has made me well and ive learned from other addicts that are in recovery that i can conquer my addiction and with this forum here and all of you i was able to get clean i never felt so happy in my life now that i want to help ppl that were in my situation i wanna sponsor someone someday when i have my 12 steps and have a year in recovery in NA. so thats my situation, I love you and thank you all

Tinkers~ i want to give you a big apology for the way i was in the begining i know i wasnt the most pleasent person to be around i know now that you were only trying to help me but at that time i wasnt ready for help i just wanted to keep useing then i realized ppl here were only try to help me not harm me , so with this i hope you can find it in your heart to look past the little bump in the road i gave you and we can still remain friends and help each other and support each other. i really value your kind and encouage words so with that i really want to be friends again


Clean Date:10/16/06

Just For Today

Luv N Hugs,
Clarkie

[LISA GIRL]

aw!!! I love a happy ending! I'm getting all teary reading that Mort. I'm really glad to see things come full circle for you.

[tinkers]

Mort,

no need to apologies I was there and I was bad I'm just glad that I may have help you in some demented way. I know I come across strong some times but that is just me I like to tell it how it is and its not always nice I have a hard time writing things down I can talk much better, but I still try to get my point across in here and I do think I have some knowlage on the subject. Thanks and keep up the good work

[gville76]

Hey first time posting here - been reading these boards for a month or so now...And i can say that I'm defintely addicted to opiates...I started taking lortabs 5 years ago or so when I was hungover so I could go back to sleep...Soon found out that they make you feel pretty damn good...Was never a real big deal with them until about the last year or so...I have never been prescribed a pain pill in my life and have always bought off the street...In the past I would take a few lortab 7.5/10mg one day & then always skip a day in between as to not get addicted and build a tolerance...About a year ago I started getting ROXICODONE 15mg and snorting them and it was like a whole new level of high...Had snorted tabs in the past but the Roxi's were so small and in my eyes made for snorting...Not to mention having no APAP in them which kills your liver...(which is important to me because I drink an average of 5-7 drinks per day) Well I stopped being able to get them after several months and went back to my regular supply of tabs per month which is usually about 60 7.5 @ two dollars a pop...Well about 7 or 8 months ago - found a hook-up with ROXICODONE 30mg...My usual usage now is about 35 Roxi's per month...I pay 8 dollars per pill and usually have one week out of the month where i run out and try and scronge up some tabs/etc. to ween myself off so I can sleep/function til my next shipment comes in...Anyways just re-uped today after being without any pain meds for 6 days...Had gotten over most fo the physical symptoms of withdrawal but was really struggling with the mental aspect of it...Really affects my social skills etc when not having them during withdrawls...So I gave in and bought some and it made me feel so guilty...

Anyways i would like to quit b/c of the potential adverse affects they can have on my life...But at the same time dont want to quit because of the way they make me feel when on them...In dating/social situations I really love to take them b/c they are such a personality enhancer...So if anyone has had a similar addiction my question is how long does it take to get your confidence etc. back after stopping taking them? And what do you use to feel the void of not having that HIGH??? I admit I LOVE the way it makes me feel but it's starting to get me by the B*LLS!!!

A little background info - I'm 30 yrs old - single ...Own a succesful business...

Sorry so long but would like any advice/encouragement you guys can offer!

[unclenasty93]

Lisa Girl,

It's MIKE not Dave. peace.

[morticia]

Hi Gville~ Welcome you came to the right place i read your post and it seems to me that you are ready to quit but your still not sure .excalty...well my advice is since you have been clean for 6 days congates on that , that is a big accomplishment, i was in your situaltion not to long ago its been almost 2 months since ive been off pain pills i was on them for 16 years because of chronic back pain, i had to go to detox for 5 days to get off pain meds and it was a real nice lady to get off cold turkey so i decied to check myself in, and since i came out of detox i felt the heavy bricks on my shoulders lift it was like i was free i go to NA now maybe you should consider checking out an NA meeting you'll find alot of ppl in your situaltion it seems like you have a good head on your shoulders have you own buisness and all which is great. maybe if your haveing difficulty staying off pills maybe consider suboxone its a trsnsitional drug it helps with the mental and physical w/d's and you have a better chance of getting off the pills entirly and from what i heard its a great drug, and if your worried about getting more confident and out going that will come back in time but i think the sub will help with that just read some of the other ppls posts on sub, they have sucess stories and all of them have their confidance back..just think about it heres the wedsite www.suboxone.com it will take you to the docs in your area cuz only certain docs can prescibe it. hope this helps a little, let us know how you are doing , keep us posted best of luck to you


Clean Date:10/16/06

Just For Today

Luv N Hugs,
Clarkie

[abey042000]

Well, with all that being said........

Good Luck to u Mort! M'done will only bring u long-term probs, that's all I was trying to say but beings ur mind is still clouded by opiates, none of u will understand where I'm coming from. BTW, I am 90 days clean! Congrats to me!

[LISA GIRL]

quote:Originally posted by unclenasty93

Lisa Girl,

It's MIKE not Dave. peace.

And I knew that!!! So sorry.. hate calling people by the wrong names... I guess I was thinking for a minute of mpvt Dave...Sorry my Colorado buddy...I'm an ass! lol...

[sparky]

Hi......gville.....I was thinking about your post and your desire to quit,but you are hesitant because you find your personality is enhanced while on your drugs.....are you referring to that temporary ,euphoric little chatty, charming way you feel after you take your given dose??? how long does that feeling last...and how many pills does it take to get that?......I know for me those feelings were getting further and further apart and the part of my personality that appeared the most was the desperate, self loathing person on the hunt for more pills...in fact don't bother me during that time was a real social blunder...of which most did not understand...just thought I was a non caring be-otch.....so, I am suggesting that you may find that free of pills...you will find a truely "real" and charming person underneath the layers just waiting to come out...good luck quitting