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11-28-2006, 08:49 PM
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Hey guys and girls..... can't type much as not feeling too well...but wanted to stop in and say hi.. Sparky..hey woman, you there and ok? Let us know how you are! Oh and let us know your gender too... I was always thinking you were female but Morticia is under the impression you are of the male persuasion...It doesn't really matter I guess..just curious!  Inquiring minds want to know!
Tammy...just a heads up... When NYMOMMY went for her last sub check up they did a pee test...they told her it was mandatory? I haven't had one but she had taken some somas and they showed up...just letting you know in case they ask you if you are taking anything and you don't tell them and they show up.. I know some sub programs can kick you off for things like that.
Morticia.. Good luck in your qwest for a sponsor!! I always thought they kind of sought you out too... Of course I wouldn't know...(maybe after the holidays I'll get my butt in gear and check out NA) but that is the impression I got for some reason...Whoever you find...or finds you...however it works...they are lucky to have you!
Patmamma!?? Where are you? Hope you didn't drown your keyboard again and lose all the letters! lol...Seriously though, let us know how you are...
One of my dogs is sick too and **** all over the carpet in my office...right next to the bedroom...Stinks like well, like ****...Making me feel worse than I do..he's lucky he's my favorite. lol....Have a great night all..craving and pain free..
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11-28-2006, 09:16 PM
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hi,lisa,how are you?fine I hope!Hey when I went to my first sub. appt,I told the doc I took a few zanax and soma cause they helped w/the w/d,she didnt say antthing abt.it.she just said that they do a pee test to see if any hydros are in your system and she has a 3 strikes your out deal,so if she says anything tomorrow ill just be ready for next time do you know how long it takes the somas to be out of your system? let me know Thanks Tamm |
11-28-2006, 11:19 PM
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hi,lisa,how are you?fine I hope!Hey when I went to my first sub. appt,I told the doc I took a few zanax and soma cause they helped w/the w/d,she didnt say antthing abt.it.she just said that they do a pee test to see if any hydros are in your system and she has a 3 strikes your out deal,so if she says anything tomorrow ill just be ready for next time do you know how long it takes the somas to be out of your system? let me know Thanks Tamm | 3 strikes? That's a pretty good deal...many places I think give you one chance! Anyway, my bad .. about NMMOMMY..she was NOT taking the somas... I guess they just checked for them in her test. As long as you were up front and she didn't act like it was a problem, you are fine I'm sure... no idea how long they stay in your system but I wouldn't worry...even if it is a problem for some reason .. you have two more chances! |
11-28-2006, 11:38 PM
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Morticia, I'm anxious to see if you asked that lady to be your sponsor.  The reason why it isn't a good idea for a sponsor to seek and ask the newcomer to be a sponsee is because the whole basis behind the sponsor/sponsee relationship is the sponsee's willingness. You sound like you have the willingness to take the suggestions of a trusted sponsor. My decision to find a sponsor and work all twelve steps has been easily one of the best decisions in my life. Now, I get to give it away to my sponsees (so I can keep it).
Sparky, a relapse can be the spark that ignites a beautiful program of recovery as long as we learn from our mistakes and begin to apply a program of recovery with open mindedness and willingness... oh, and honesty. I think you are already getting the honesty part by coming on this board and disclosing. I have a huge amount of respect for that. Then, all we need to do is start taking the suggestions. It really is a simple program, but sometimes we are reluctant to follow through (willingness), myself included sometimes. Often, I learn the most when I stumble because I didn't listen to a suggestion. That is the hard way, but either way we learn as long as we have the desire to stay clean. In 10 years, this relapse will be a distant memory when you have 10 years clean. The best part is we only need to stay clean one day, TODAY.
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11-28-2006, 11:52 PM
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hi thanks lisa ,you all are so helpful and are so much appreciated...love ya tamm |
11-29-2006, 07:47 AM
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ChrisH~ hi how are you doing? me im doing ok the girl didnt show up at last nights meeting i couldnt ask her, we had a very interseting meeting last night the topic was "fear" and everyone had to share I guess my biggest fear is temptation hubby has pills and they are well hidden from me and i actually broke down in the meeting saying I was tempted to take one, the first temptaion I had since being out of detox, its like i didnt really want the pill, i just was tempted by them i guess, i wondered what it woild be like "taking that first drug" then i thought about step one i only know the first step, i guess i should purchase the NA book, maybe that would be a big help and also having a sponsor too. but i talked about it in the meeting then came home from the meeting feeling a bit empty for the first time usally i feel good when i come out of a meeting. So i talked to my hubby about it and he offered to throw the pills away but I told him no because he needs them for his pain.regular advil does the trick for me. but I did share at the meeting like I said, but eh, i'm sorry i'm just rambleing on, i hope tonight the girl will be there,toight we have book study & tomrows meeting some ppl are celebrating clean time i love that i think to myself i'll be there someday getting my coin, in december i'll be celebrating 60 days i can't believe i made this far and i'm not gonna give up my sobriety over a stupid pill! anyway i'll keep you posted on the sponsor thing.
Tam~hey chickie whats up? so you have your appt. today thats great, i see your concerned about the somas? are you prescibed them or your just not allowed to have them at all? even if they were prescribed? i dont see what the big deal is somas are usedfor many differnt things, andits not a narcotic so i dont see why your doc would have a problem with you taking them, shes only concerened about the real narcotics like the hydros or perks or something like that. not soma.
so I wouldnt worry to much ,hun, you'll be fine, let us know how you make out.
Lisa~how are you doing? hope everything is ok with you. yeah after the holidays give NA some thought i think you'll really like it, its very relaxing but also very powerful its a great combo, see if you can get a womens NA group also its nice just to hang with the gals, then they have co-ed meeting which are also really good. So when your ready NA will always be there
Talk with ya'll soon , take care
P.S Sparky how are you doing? let us know your ok.
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11-29-2006, 09:31 AM
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CHRISH....you can't say(post) it enough... the NA/AA slogan about staying clean just for TODAY.... forever does seem impossible.. today not so bad. I always tell myself today I will be clean, tomorrow there are always the pills if I need...of course tomorrow never comes ("you're always a day away." lol) ..it is easy to focus on the one day. It may be cliche, but that cliche has helped more addicts than any other that I know... you all have a pain and craving free day! Love you guys.!! |
11-29-2006, 10:04 AM
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Bigpimping,
I would pass. You have already been through so much. Taking the pill will not help much as your tolerance is still high enough that it won't do much but scratch the surface of the pain.
Well, if you decide to take it you kno wthe drill. Temporary relief that isn't nearly as good as you might rememeber followed by more intense w/d's. Nothing new for any of us so don't be afraid either way you go.
Take care, Gqblu |
11-29-2006, 10:04 AM
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Ive gone 5 days clean. its the longest ive gone in over a year. My addiction was taking 6 10/325 norcos at once just to feel anything. I tapered down and finally havent taken them in 5 days i've cut off all my connections. I have body aches still but the main detox is over thank god. Yesterday i found one of my old pill bottles while moving and there was one 5mg hydrocodone left in it. i have it right now and i know if i took it my back wouldnt hurt as bad b/c the aspirin doesnt help at all.......Will i be a failure if i take it? I know its just one pill but that is also how this whole addiction thing got started..........  |
11-29-2006, 12:50 PM
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Hey guys. I posted in the featured conditions not realizing i coulda posted here. anyway... i hear see a lot of you guys writing about subx but what about methadone. It's all i have right now. I took 5mg's the other day and it was probably a little on the low side but i dont want to take the whole 10 cause ive read so much bad stuff about methadone addiction, and im not really in the mood to start another one up. A week or two on 5 or 10 mg's shouldn't need weaning off of should it? Your methadone knowledge is much appreciated. Bless you all. -Zack- |
11-29-2006, 03:14 PM
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HI Zack~
I'm on 20 mgs of meth a day, what do you take it for addiction or pain or both? i take it for pain, i had a an addction for pain pills,and they detoxed me at the detox center on meth 15 then 10 then 5 mgs, then they weaned me off, while i was on the meth my back didnt seem to hurt that bad , i suffer from chronic back pain and while being in detox the meth helped my back so when i got out of detox i went to my pain managewment doc he put me on 20 mgs of meth and i feel great never felt better, but it also helps with the w/ds at the time now i dont have any w/d from the pain meds its been 30 some days now, i go to NA.
Alot of ppl have misconception on methadone, its got a bad rep, because its synthic heroin, and very addictive, but its the best pain med there is.
But if i were you i would take the full 10 if thats what your prescribed, and dont worry about addiction did your doc say how long you have to be on it? my doc said id probably have to be on it for the rest of my life cuz of the back pain i have, but if its just used for addctiction, they will taper you down SLOWLY, i mean very SLOWLY, like 2.5 mgs a day till your off .
you know who would know about meth and getting off it Tamara02 she was on meth and got off she would probably give you a better idea about how to taper off when your ready, but if you can get away with just taking 5 mgs go for it, You should be fine.
I hope this helps a little, best of luck to you keep us posted we'ed like to hear how you are doing.
take care
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11-29-2006, 03:29 PM
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Ive gone 5 days clean. its the longest ive gone in over a year. My addiction was taking 6 10/325 norcos at once just to feel anything. I tapered down and finally havent taken them in 5 days i've cut off all my connections. I have body aches still but the main detox is over thank god. Yesterday i found one of my old pill bottles while moving and there was one 5mg hydrocodone left in it. i have it right now and i know if i took it my back wouldnt hurt as bad b/c the aspirin doesnt help at all.......Will i be a failure if i take it? I know its just one pill but that is also how this whole addiction thing got started.......... | Hey Big
I know it's tempting, because I'm right there with you. I'm almost done with my detox, and the cravings can be really bad at times. Just keep in mind how far you've come, and by doing this it would be a great risk to everything you've accomplished. Do whatever you can to bring yourself to just flush it. That ONE little pill just isn't worth it. Feel free to post back here and let me know how you're doing. Also, if you have any muscle relaxers available, such as Soma, or even an over-the-counter low mg one, it may help with the back pain. Just be careful with them and make sure to use them with moderation, because in the peak of withdrawals, you can sometimes get carried away with trying to ease the pain. I know this from experience.
We're all here to support you. Good luck. I know you'll make the right decision. |
11-29-2006, 04:06 PM
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ChrisH~ hi how are you doing? me im doing ok the girl didnt show up at last nights meeting i couldnt ask her, we had a very interseting meeting last night the topic was "fear" and everyone had to share I guess my biggest fear is temptation hubby has pills and they are well hidden from me and i actually broke down in the meeting saying I was tempted to take one, the first temptaion I had since being out of detox, its like i didnt really want the pill, i just was tempted by them i guess, i wondered what it woild be like "taking that first drug" then i thought about step one i only know the first step, i guess i should purchase the NA book, maybe that would be a big help and also having a sponsor too. but i talked about it in the meeting then came home from the meeting feeling a bit empty for the first time usally i feel good when i come out of a meeting. So i talked to my hubby about it and he offered to throw the pills away but I told him no because he needs them for his pain.regular advil does the trick for me. but I did share at the meeting like I said, but eh, i'm sorry i'm just rambleing on, i hope tonight the girl will be there,toight we have book study & tomrows meeting some ppl are celebrating clean time i love that i think to myself i'll be there someday getting my coin, in december i'll be celebrating 60 days i can't believe i made this far and i'm not gonna give up my sobriety over a stupid pill! anyway i'll keep you posted on the sponsor thing.
Tam~hey chickie whats up? so you have your appt. today thats great, i see your concerned about the somas? are you prescibed them or your just not allowed to have them at all? even if they were prescribed? i dont see what the big deal is somas are usedfor many differnt things, andits not a narcotic so i dont see why your doc would have a problem with you taking them, shes only concerened about the real narcotics like the hydros or perks or something like that. not soma.
so I wouldnt worry to much ,hun, you'll be fine, let us know how you make out.
Lisa~how are you doing? hope everything is ok with you. yeah after the holidays give NA some thought i think you'll really like it, its very relaxing but also very powerful its a great combo, see if you can get a womens NA group also its nice just to hang with the gals, then they have co-ed meeting which are also really good. So when your ready NA will always be there
Talk with ya'll soon , take care
P.S Sparky how are you doing? let us know your ok.
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| My situation is not as soft as you might think. I Really feel like an ass but i was never prescribed pills, I was buying and using them recreationally. Iâm a 20 year old student. It is about to be finals week and I just met a girl I really like. I wasn't prescribed the m-done either i was given them by a friend which is why I am asking all these questions. I have a physical in 2 weeks at which point in time I plan on telling my doc whats up... here is what I wrote in my other post...
âHey guys. I have been reading some posts and i was no where near as addicted as some of you but i believe i am suffering moderate withdrawal and am very glad i figured it out. I thought i had the flu and went to the doc and they said there was nothign wrong with me. I was scared ****less that i had something serious but i now realize that i am the epitome of dopesick... sleep an hour at a time with cold night sweats, abdomonal pain, diarreah, goosebumps, headaches, and sometimes i think i am going insane. I was using percs, hydros, and oxys for a couple months on and off no more than 60mgs in a day, usually 30-40 mgs every other day with a very low tolerence in the beginning. I originally didn't think it was withdrawl because I wasn't using on a regular basis but from what i have read it really doesn't matter. I guess i am just posting because i have no one else to talk to about it and it is greatly affecting every aspect of my life. I have a friend who is "experienced" with opiates and has relapsed and withdrawn at least 10 times now... anyway he gave me some 10mg methadones and i was wondering how i should dose them or if i should at all since my dopesickness is fairly mild (in comparison). again, i have had every symptom of dopesickness except vomiting and the doc said i dont have a virus (I woulda told him about the opiates but i truly didn't think i was addicted or it was an issue at all). Everytime i read a post on here i almost get excited because now i know what is wrong with me. Help me quit this ****! FYI i am a 20 year old male. thanks, -Zack- â |
11-29-2006, 04:25 PM
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Hi,
Just seeing whats up lots of new post in here thats great keep up the good work |
11-29-2006, 04:29 PM
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Just one more thing it was my first turkey day in about 6-8 years with no pain killers man did it feel good what was funny was I couldent sleep that night not because of no pills I ate so much pie that I was on a sugar high and even though I got very little sleep I still felt great the next day just thought I would share that |
11-29-2006, 05:01 PM
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Zack~ I see i thought you were being prscribed the meth, if i were you id take a quarter of the tablet and see how you feel, it will help with the w/ds believe me, you'll feel better after taking the meth, the flu like symptoms are definalty w/d and you dont have to take a lot to get w/ds it doesnt take much. so my advice is too take the meth and it will also help you sleep but take 5 mgs and dissolve it in koolade or juice because it will work faster thats what they did in detox. good luck let us know how you make out.
Tnkers~that great hun congrates i also celebrated turkey day without pills too and it was a bit hard at first but i felt so good after realizing i wasnt high for thanksgiving dinner and knowing that i got through it clean! hats off to you, i know i ate so much apple pie my skin started to turn red from the apples lol im glad to hear your doing well stop by more often and let us know how you are doing.
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11-29-2006, 05:10 PM
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hi Big~ you have 5 days clean congrates thats great.
my advice is throw the pill down the the tiolet let
your tiolet get high not you , you come this far and your over the worst of it like the others said its just one pill and its not worth going through w/d all over again thats what happened to me i was clean for 5 days then about a month then i gave in and i had a harder time getting off them it was a terrible cycle i had to go to detox for 5 days to get clean after 16 years of pain killer addcttion i was definalty over do to go to detox and i say it did me a world of good now i go to NA and thats the best descion i made my hubby agrees with me he likes me clean its like im a whole new person, please take our advice and throw away the pill you wont regret it
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11-29-2006, 07:37 PM
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hi a quick hello...will come back later...all is well... I will start sub again tomorrow...thanks for alll support....I am mom/slash/wife... |
11-29-2006, 07:38 PM
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well i failed miserably my couzin came over with some and i took them plus the one i found...ive failed once again...............
thanks for the support im trying the cold turkey method and i guess im gonna have to come clean with a lot of people and go to the doctor b/c i cant do this by myself............... |
11-29-2006, 08:53 PM
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BigPimpin,
Don't stress it. You'll do it when you have to.
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11-29-2006, 09:19 PM
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Big,
Don't look at it as a failure. It's just a learning experience and you will quit when the time is right, even if it is with the doctors help. Good luck and stay strong. |
11-29-2006, 09:27 PM
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Hey just a question for anyone out there who can answer.
Is it bad to take Soma while on a suboxone treatment? Is this usually something doctors don't want you to take while on suboxone? It will show up on a urine test, right? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks |
11-29-2006, 09:44 PM
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Hey just a question for anyone out there who can answer.
Is it bad to take Soma while on a suboxone treatment? Is this usually something doctors don't want you to take while on suboxone? It will show up on a urine test, right? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
| I don't know if it is "bad" to take while on sub... I don't know much about soma, but I do know that my buddy's sub doctor tested her for soma when they did a random pee test while she was on sub. I suppose it depends on the doctor...but it can show up... |
11-30-2006, 09:36 AM
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Mort~
I hate to burst ur bubble, but u are far from being clean. The reason ur not craving the pain meds is cuz ur body has something stronger in it. I hear u telling people that their misinformed about mdone, but I believe u are, and with me knowing you personally, I'm so sorry for u that ur gonna be on mdone for life. There was many of other options out there for u. Of course u chose mdone.......cuz its an opiate. Do the people at ur NA know ur on mdone? I bet not. To me u are saying your clean from opiates but YOU are FAR from it. I would truly dimise being in ur shoes right now. |
11-30-2006, 10:15 AM
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Thanks everyone who supported me during this last 2 weeks....left to my own thought process I had put myself back into a really self loathing spot...but thanks to my online friends/support..I pushed myself to make that embarrassing phone call to get help...so I will start suboxone again today...and realize I can't use opiates responsibly... |
11-30-2006, 10:18 AM
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In my previous suboxone experience the doctor had also prescribed some somas....I do not believe there is any adverse reaction to taking them together...other than if you have been requested by a doc not to...they (soma) hit a different receptor area in the brain than opiates do.. |
11-30-2006, 11:51 AM
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started sub today...hoping to go to a local NA meeting too....I try to think about what led me to relapse other than I'm an addict and thats what addicts do (hate that)...but...during my last detox and when I weaned off sub..I never got a good nights sleep without the aid of a sleeping pill...in fact some nights I took 2 sleeping pills...now I know thats not right...my good sleeping pattern just never came back and it always bugged me....one thing about opiate was you just passed out basically so at least you got sleep...in fact I don't remember when I ever had a naturally good nights sleep...this is a problem....one that I hope to solve this time around...any ideas...thanks |
11-30-2006, 01:00 PM
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Sparky,
I hate to say I told you so but I did some time back you do not have to rush off the sub let it help you as long as you need it and ween down very slowly I am to the point that i forget to take them I think i will be off them soon but why rush it takes time to learn how to live without the pills you did get hooked over night and you surly wont stop that fast good luck it works if you give it time. |
11-30-2006, 01:03 PM
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sparky,
About sleep it takes a very long time to get back in the pattern I take 2 otc sleep pills a night and I do sleep better now and I have been off the viks for about 9 months now it takes a long time but it will come back |
11-30-2006, 01:08 PM
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In my previous suboxone experience the doctor had also prescribed some somas....I do not believe there is any adverse reaction to taking them together...other than if you have been requested by a doc not to...they (soma) hit a different receptor area in the brain than opiates do..
| Thanks sparky and lisa for the info on soma while on suboxone. I think taking a soma when advil just doesn't help my pain, since I have only been off of the codones for almost 5 days, won't be a problem. I probably should clear it with my doctor first.
Also, I wanted to update everyone on my suboxone detox. Yesterday was a little rough for me because some of my withdrawal symptoms were hard to relieve and I had a few cravings for codone. Last night I was even getting somewhat discouraged that I wasn't going to get better. However, today I woke up and what slight withdrawals I had are actually relieved for the most part after taking my dose of suboxone! I don't feel discouraged anymore and my friend, who got off codone with me, has helped me understand that it is going to take time. I know that there is going to be some bad days but over time it will get better. I just wanted to let everyone know how I was doing and that suboxone really helps. Good luck sparky on your treatment and let us know how you are doing. Thanks for the continued support and I'll keep you updated. | | |
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