[AmyBreeze]

quote:Originally posted by tamara02

hey there,still got the bad headache,but thats all,just wondering abt. something! The somas and zanax helped before I got on the sub. I didnt ask my doc but is it ok to take the somas once ina while while on sub or not,dont really like the zanax effect but the somas help,will it mess w/ the sub? anyone,thanks tammy

Not sure, but my dr also gave me clonodine to help with withdrawls along with the suboxone and it really helps me with sleep. Puts me right out.

[LISA GIRL]

Tammy... I had some really bad headaches my first few days on the sub. Asprin worked great and they stopped after several days. I know people who take somas with the sub and haven't heard of any problems but of course, I am not a doctor. Glad to hear you are doing well!

[skipper2]

I was using 500-600 mgs a day of hydrocodone. Yea I know some are saying b.ss. Well folks with some practice most can be done. I got off that dose in 24 hrs,Suboxone.I was sitting here like alot of you wondering how the f did this happen!!?? I am a junkie. I was lucky,I saw a post about suboxone. I did little research and as always some bad some good,mostly good. Always a couple of junkies who claim thier pain was soo bad thay needed methadone. Bull I had hand sugury tith a local and nothing except a suboxone. Don't get me wrong it hurt. It would have hurt with demoral or morphine. The suboxone prevents you from getting high even if you are that stupid to try after what the docs tell you what will/could. happen. That's why you have to be in withdrawals to get your first dose.I have got all my friends off the junk and pills and now the sub. I went all the way down to .5mgs for 2months. Yes that is 1/4 of a 2mgsbun/.5naloxone. It was a breese to come off. Please all try to excersise,I f... hate it myself,but you need to make natural endorphanes,to fill the void of NO dopeiates] and yes that was a joke]but really i pay big bucks for my doc out of pocket.Get off the junk then the sub and then attack the other probs,Be well,Oh and I'm just a regular mechanic who made some dumb choices,But the the smartest was realizing the prob and fixing it. I will tell you that a lot of folks are gonna say bunepheprine is sooo much stronger than methadone or other opiates. Well they dont have the BLOCKER,I just don't get it why all you that are sitting here don't write a letter or note to the leaders of the US.Just think how many people would be out a job and the money the states and the govn't would save!!SICK,Once agaain be well,Now I'm all firred up.

[tamara02]

Hi!! guys made it thru trick or treating w/ my lil guy,got plenty of chocolate to hold me over for a while,still got a lil headache from the sub. but I will try aspirin .this 1st day im feeling alittle weird,but no wds.I feel like i can really sleep good tonight,and need to,but got to get the sugared up child to bed first.any ways,I was reading thAT some of you are doing the methadone thing,been there done that ,I was even on it thru my whole pregnancy 4 years ago had no problems w/ it .the pregnancy was great ,felt great,ate very well,baby was born just find healthy as an ox,no wd's for the baby thank god!! drs. said it was a safer med. to be on during pregnancy than hydros.but i detoxed off of the m eth. which was horrible! the only thing that got me thru was doing the hydros again yuck....well here it is day 1 on sub. and will start aa/na meetings asap..I will not get back on any other drug again,ever .If I can help it,,I,m thru,I want to be a normal person and enjoy life free of any ****...used to drink all the time too,for years its been abt. 9 years w/no hangover and I know I will never start drinking again, hopefully it will be the same w/ this pill thing..if you need any info. on methadone,Ill be glad to help.take care everyone and thank you for being here and Happy Halloween!!!!Tammy

[sparky]

The Power of a support system.....today.....I was finalizing everything for a long trip....all the stress and tired...the little addicted evil voice inside me almost had me convinced I should get some vikes for trip just in case....you know I don't want to feel crummy.....but....instead I called my support people (sponsor, whatever you want to call that person who can talk you down from where your mind will take you).....I did not get vikes....and am happy I made the call....I'm coming up on 60 days...don't want to blow that...

[morticia]

congrates Sparky on 60 days! thats quite an acompishment!
im glad to hear that you didnt give in way to go!
keep up the good work! are you goning to NA or AA?
i just started going to NA i have a meeting tonight i have 3 weeks clean i hope someday ill get 60 days too.

Tammy, congrates ive been reading your posts it seems the sub is really working for you i think thats great how long have youve been clean? are you going to NA? i went to one meeting so far and i thought it was great! i hope to get a sponser tonight the meeting im going to is a big one. you also posted something about meth im on meth for pain and it works great no w/ds or pain but i know it will be hard to get off it but my pain mangement doc said i would probably be on it for life because of the syatica and the heriated disc and i really dont want back surgery cuz then i would have to be on pain meds again and i dont want that!
Glad you had a good halloween my kids did too.
well, take care

Clean Date:10/16/06

luv n hugs Clarkie

[AmyBreeze]

quote:Originally posted by sparky

The Power of a support system.....today.....I was finalizing everything for a long trip....all the stress and tired...the little addicted evil voice inside me almost had me convinced I should get some vikes for trip just in case....you know I don't want to feel crummy.....but....instead I called my support people (sponsor, whatever you want to call that person who can talk you down from where your mind will take you).....I did not get vikes....and am happy I made the call....I'm coming up on 60 days...don't want to blow that...

Sparky, that is WONDERFUL. VERY PROUD! I'm coming up on only a little over a week and went last night and filled my last vike prescription! I haven't taken any. But part of me is saying, "oh take it one last time then start back the suboxone." But I would feel so bad. Then when I go to my doctor, what if they do a drug test, which they can do. I only have 100 so I'd be way off them by the time I go the 15th, but damn why would I even go that path! I just keep thinking one last time won't hurt. I don't have any way to get any more so that would be it. I'm too scared to buy on the street, etc. but then I hear even if I did take them, with the sub I wouldn't feel them. I think it's like 18 hours before you could take the vikes to feel them. I don't know.

ANYWAY, the point is to say what you did my friend was awesome and so correct! I need to call someone from one of my meetings. I have a whole list of names.

Have a great day all.

Amy

[tamara02]

hi, morticia and great going sparky!!!!cant believe its already nov.I started the sub. on halloween today is day 2,didnt sleep much at all , kept waking up,so just stayed up and started reading some older posts,while everyone else was asleep..there is a freakin woodpecker pecking on my house right outside my open window,how funny,it just got light not to long ago..well anyways,the methadone for maintenance is good just try to not go up alot on the doses,If I remember correctly,up can go up every 3 days a few mgs. at a time,try not to if you can help it..high amts. make you fall asleep alot,(nod out , alot)also crave sweets really bad ,I gained 30 or more lbs. thanks to meth.and lots of choc. donuts.Just stay as low as you can on the dose ,if you start to feel bad, really bad then ask to go up a few mgs,and stay on that as long as possible,etc... do you go to the methadone clinic to get dosed daily or are you rx'ed the methadone,by your doc?the clinics are pretty strict they urine test you alot,to make sure you dont take anything or smoke pot,hope you have a good counselorI plan on going to an aa/na meeting asap,,,,and see how that goes i think it will be fun!!take care,tammy

[morticia]

hi Tammy,
thanks for the advice, i get my meth rx'ed to me from my pain magagent doc he has me on 10mgs twice a day (20) all together i had to sign a contract that i wouldnt get marcs froma nother doc and i have to take randum u/as or blood work he said that i have to go to the same phamacy to get it which is no big deal. actually the meth is making me loose weight i havent eatin since the 15th of oct. i lost 27 lbs which i know isnt good because i have a history of anoexia.
but 20 mgs seems to do me just fine ,it does make me sleepy during the day, so i take it when i dont have to go anywhere until i get used to it, ive only been on it since the 27th of oct.

do you build up a tolerence to it? sorry to hear about the woodpecker that had to be anoying, its your second day on the sub? best of luck to ya hopefully youll get some sleep tonight. im going to a meeting tonight. so ill let everyone know how it went.

take care



luv n hugs Clarkie

[tamara02]

hey morticia,had to go outside and let the dog run feed the cat etc...woodpecker is gone,,your 20 mg dose is good,,at the clinics they start you off at 30 or 35 mgs.and after a long while you do build up tolerance to the meth,dang it!!but works different on different people ,maybe you will do just fine on 20 mg.and stay on it ..they say not to take zanax w/ it though,dont know why,,have fun at your meeting talk to ya/later,tammy

[tinkers]

Tamara,

Glad to hear the sub works for you its truly a great drug did'ent feel good to take the kids out with no hydro? I took my kids out last night and my and the wife were talking about how last halloween how we were trying to get pills all day and when we did how we had to wait for them to kick in so I could go out with the kids isent that sad? Well last night was my first time in many many years pill free just had my redbull supply and it was great.

Morticia,

I know we dident get off to the right start some time back but im glad we are past that and you are off the hydro it is a very good feeling when I see people that had a problem with pills and how fare they have come along at work have to go Ill finish later

[tamara02]

hi,tinkers,it is weird not having to look for the pills all the time,trick or treating was fun and got worn out,im so glad we're off the damn pills,life will be more fun and think of all the money were saving,I dont know what to go and buy first???get the kids more toys or shop for perfume or clothes,sounds like much more fun then running around buying up pills,huh???God is good...take care tammy

[4love530]

quote:Originally posted by sparky

The Power of a support system.....today.....I was finalizing everything for a long trip....all the stress and tired...the little addicted evil voice inside me almost had me convinced I should get some vikes for trip just in case....you know I don't want to feel crummy.....but....instead I called my support people (sponsor, whatever you want to call that person who can talk you down from where your mind will take you).....I did not get vikes....and am happy I made the call....I'm coming up on 60 days...don't want to blow that...

Congrats Sparky!!!!!!

[4love530]

So my bf and I found a dr that he really likes. We are going on Tuesday to start sub for him.
I am so happy... I just wanted to share!!

[:X]

[tinkers]

4love,

That is great news I love to hear about people starting sub I found out about it on this board and it truly saved my life I wish there was more info on it out there they should start putting out ads on tv or something just think how many people that are out there that think that they have tryed everything and there is no hope and there is and it is so easy.


Tammy,

spend away I personly paid bills that where stacking up because pills were more important.

[morticia]

hi Tinkers,
i know we didnt get along in the past but i was in such denial i didnt think i had a problem with the pills , but since then i came to realize that i am an addict and that i needed help. I just didnt want to admit it all i wanted to do is get high and not listen to anyone, but then a guardian angel told me to find help and i finally checked into detox on my own, and i never felt better.

I know you were only trying to give me advice and help me and i really appracied that, than you, your a great support, the past is the past and i hope you will forgive me if i came on to stronge in the begining. i welcome all the support and advice i can to stay clean , i love to hear sucess stories and how ppl over come there addction, i hope someday i'll have a sucess story too.

now that im off all pain meds except for the methadone my thinking is much more clearer this forum is great, thanks again Tinkers

Clean Date: 10/16/06



luv n hugs Clarkie

[tinkers]

mortica,

Thank you. What do you mean one day!you are a sucess story you know you have a problem and you are seeking help that is a sucess story to me you can't get help if you don't think you have a peoblem my biggest problem is understanding that people do have cronic pain and really need to be on pills I have issues with my back but I don't need pills to deal with them I know when I was on pills in my mind my back allways hurt until I got the pills.

[tamara02]

Hi,,Morticia,tinker guess mort. is at her aa/na meeting, hope she's liking it,let us know ,this site kinda feels like we have our own aa/na meetings ,except not in person,huh!!Im feeling alittle weird today still,just not with it ,guess i need rest and my brain is not really used to everything thats going on in it.no w/d symptoms,and no more headache,take care hope ya'll are doing fine ,chat w/u later,tammy

[patmamma]

Wish me luck on my tooth hell tomorrow![:0]

I will feel not so great for a week, but then, time to get back on track and feel good!

Have a great day tomorrow, think of me, and think good thoughts, I am in surgery at 11 am, and I always get so worried about surgeries.[B)].

Bye for now,
Patmamma[V]

[LISA GIRL]

Good Luck Patmamma... I will say a prayer for you. !

Lisa Girl...

[patmamma]

By the way, Tinkers, I think those are my favorite moments, the realization of a better life, and that you are now in control!!!Great job! You are a great inspiration!

Morticia,
I am so glad you are on track. That was really an amazing story about your guardian angel. I believe that has gotten me through so many things! Stay positive!

Everyone I may know or not know, I am loving the stories of your successes! Keep up the good work, because it is just that, work!
Patmamma

[patmamma]

Oh there you are LISAGIRL! How are you doing today?
Thank you so much for your prayers, I will take them, believe me!

Patmamma

[LISA GIRL]

I'm here. One more day off the percs..don't go a day without thinking about them but it does get easier...Saturday will be 4 weeks.

Wondering if the sub has caused anyone joint pain? I have read about that happening and my fingers are really beginning to ache... it's the strangest thing.. I also am still having hot flashes..anyone? Or maybe I'm just getting pre-menapausal... or maybe i just never noticed these things before cuz I was all doped up on the percocet!

Anyway again good luck PM... I'm glad they are putting you out for that. I'm sure you will do just fine!

Glad to hear everyone is doing well. I have been battling thru some FLU.. (yuck!) but other that hanging in there. Ready for the weekend!

[tamara02]

hi guys,hi lisagirl as far as joint pain havent experienced that yet,the headaches are gone just feeling weird,but no cravings or anything like that ,but its only my 2nd day,@16 mg.per day.and so far im wondering if its not enough,or I havent given it enough time to adjust to,dont know,have got alil sweaty and disoriented,no energy but i think i need to get a halfways goodnight s sleep tonite and hopefully feel better tomorrow,my ciggs. taste funny,but have a good appetite for real food like steak and baked pot.salad,etc..I check my pupils and they are as small as a pinhead it looks weird,probably from the sub?? my doc wants to keep me in the program,for a year of maintenance,but from what i read ,some say to get off asap,its easier,well hope everyones going to have a good night,Ill say my prayers before i go to bed will keep ya'll in my prayers,too..bye-bye for now,tamm

[morticia]

hi Tammy~
how are you doing today? how's the sub working for you today?
I/m doing pretty good i went to my 2nd NA meetimg last night and i got a key chain! i got it because i raised my hand and said i was a newcomer. every oone clapped i was so embarrared i didnt expect that but the meeting went well, one girl celebrated ayear! i'll be going to a meeting tonight hopefully i can find a sponser one woman said that i need to get a sponser right away even if its just a tempoary one. so hopefully tonight. but i did get a bunch of phone numbers to call if i need rides or just to talk. I felt so happy after the meeting its such i good feeling.

Patmomma~ good luck with your surgery today, i'll be thinking about you today and i will stay positive, hows your leg today i felt bad that you got hurt your in my prayers.

Tinkers~ i know what you mean about the pain pills it seems like the more i took the more pain i had! isnt that weird? the methadone really helps with the pain alot and i get it from a doc my pain mangament doc so i get it RX'ed every month, so im being montitered very closely. how many years you have clean? are you on sub or meth or did you quit cold turkey? hope to hear from y'all soon/

stay postive
just for today

Clean Date:10/16/06



luv n hugs Clarkie

[tinkers]

Mort,

I have about 6 months off the hydro and yes im on sub, as for my clean time I dont really keep track because to me its not as important as what I do today it has alot to do with my church that I attened thry are my support I choose that over na it just works better for me keep up the good work remember pray it works.

Lisa,

My wife is hot all the time I think it might be from the sub and for joint pain I have noticed that I have afew more aches and pain now but they could have been covered up by 25 vikes a day also.

patmamma

Hope the teeth thing goes well I too have alot of teeth problem and DO NOT want to go to the dentist so good luck with that I will have to go my self soon.

Tammy,

Keep up the good work it only gets easier with time. I know you already feel 100% better.

[tamara02]

hi,Guys, yes tinkers today I woke up and I feel good,need energy though,my house is a wreck and I dont feel like cleaning ,yet,hope everyone else is doing well,mort.I really want to go to a aa/na meeting..are u going to aa or na?well looks like the weather is gonna be great today,think Ill go enjoy it after ER is over,take care talk to ya'll soon and thank you for your posts need all the possitiveness I can get, my hubby is a pain in the butt ,mr.negetive,oh well love yall,tammy...[:X]

[Angela H]

HEY EVERYBODY!
I've missed being here with you all. I've had a lot of stuff going on and haven't been on the computer in a while.
I'm proud to say that I am still clean...although it is not always easy. The last 3 weeks or so,the cravings got really bad and I had to MAKE myself do other things...take a walk, clean the house, whatever....ANYTHING to get my mind off them. And they usually pass pretty quickly. Also, I've found that when things are "right" in my life...ie...relationships are good, work is going well, finally getting out of the debt that this horrow show of an addiction led to, I tend to not stress over getting high. Because I realize now that I was wanting to get high to not think about all the stuff in my life that was wrong. My precious sister (who is my best friend)and I, had a huge fight in January,and not spoken since. Before I went to Vegas,we made up, put the past behind us, and are closer now than we have ever been. It's strange now...looking back...that's when my addiction got TOTALLY out of control. I guess I have to learn to deal with stress without a crutch, because that's just life. It ain't always a walk in the park and we can't always depend on a pill to make us feel better. And I know...for me anyway....once I discovered opiates and developed a love affair with them, I didn't have to worry about problems, because they took care of them for me. And did so for 5 years. So...this journey of a clean life has been extremely eye-opening for me. I realize I had been suppressing my feelings for so long...and to feel them again...well...let's just say...it's interesting. Mostly good, though.
Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I'm still alive and thinking of you all.
Kaidog...How's my hero? Still plugging along?
Lisa and Mommy~ How are you guys? I've missed talking to you.
Everyone else...hang in there...this CAN be done...I'm living proof.
And you know what....sometimes the grass is greener on the other side....however....IT STILL HAS TO BE MOWED!!!!!!!!!!!!
I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!
Angela for real

[tamara02]

hey,morticia,Im glad you enjoyed your meetings,I need to go asap,Im feeling normal today compared to the past 2 days but no energy ,im feeling lazy and I hate to say it but I kindof have a craving to be high on something,to get me energized I guess,Im am craving the stupid loracets its all in my head,I guess thats where the aa/na comes in??Im ashamed to say this,I should be happy that im not using the ****,I dont ever want to,Its all in my stuoid head,iguess..somebody kick me..I guess I have to much empty time on my hands,,well til my 4 year old wakes up anyway,then its full steam ahead whether I like it or not ,I have to function,blah,blah,bla...sorryI think I will look in my phone book right now and find a meeting for this afternoon,maybe my outlook will improve,how is everyone else doing,great I hope,Im proud of all of you and your courage,im just day 3,so maybe in a few weeks or months there will be a great improvement...and Ill be like you guys.take care,tammy

[Kaidog]

Been lurking but not posting lately. Just too busy at work I guess.

Today is day 51 and I'm still plugging along.

Angela For Real!!!!!!!!!!!!

Long time no see. It's great to see that you're still doing well. Also great that you've made peace with your sister. My little brother was my very best friend in the whole world and I lost him 12 years ago now. I still miss him every single day and still cry like a baby when I visit his grave.

Great to see all the new faces who are starting their lives over. It's a monumental step. Congratulations!

Clean Date = 09/12/06