[feelalone]

Hi, I hope there is someone out there. I have reald lots of post from here, but mostly older ones. I was taking about 10mg norco X 10 times a day. About 2 months ago I broke when trying to get off of it, and detox was so bad. Now understand I was taking the norco for genuine reasons, I have neuropathy and a lot of pain. I didn't even know I was addicted until I went to stop taking it. My psychiatrist put me on 16mg soboxone. I never needed that much though. The most I needed was 8mg. I have been taking 2-4 mg for a few weeks and stopped altogether 2 days ago. I am in withdrawal and trying not to take any more. I am extremely depressed. I am a wife and mom to three small kids so this is really hard. I have other issues but the depression and sense of "Doom" is the worst part of it. I also have a bit of trouble breathing, restlessness, upset stomach, and that tired feeling that makes me want to lay down but if I try then I get restless and more depressed. I am looking for someone that has been here and made it. How long will I feel so bad, I don't feel as bad as coming off of the Norco made me feel, but it's still not good. I need to be able to function. Please help me.

[melinda7.5]

Originally Posted by feelalone

Hi, I hope there is someone out there. I have reald lots of post from here, but mostly older ones. I was taking about 10mg norco X 10 times a day. About 2 months ago I broke when trying to get off of it, and detox was so bad. Now understand I was taking the norco for genuine reasons, I have neuropathy and a lot of pain. I didn't even know I was addicted until I went to stop taking it. My psychiatrist put me on 16mg soboxone. I never needed that much though. The most I needed was 8mg. I have been taking 2-4 mg for a few weeks and stopped altogether 2 days ago. I am in withdrawal and trying not to take any more. I am extremely depressed. I am a wife and mom to three small kids so this is really hard. I have other issues but the depression and sense of "Doom" is the worst part of it. I also have a bit of trouble breathing, restlessness, upset stomach, and that tired feeling that makes me want to lay down but if I try then I get restless and more depressed. I am looking for someone that has been here and made it. How long will I feel so bad, I don't feel as bad as coming off of the Norco made me feel, but it's still not good. I need to be able to function. Please help me.

Hi Alone
hey !!! we can help you but, you jumped off the suboxone at to high of a dose. Do you still have any pills left...so we can help you with a taper plan that would be a little easer for you...
There are so many people here that have done this don't worry you wont feel alone anymore..your going to be OK..
Talk to you soon, Melinda

[feelalone]

Melinda,

I am back to taking a little bit, about 1 mg I would guess, as I am just taking off a tiny piece of the sub. I have probably 8 (8mg) pills left. My doctor has been good, but we are moving out of state in two weeks so I am freaking out now. I would really appreciate help on tapering off of these. I am still depressed even on this low dose, but not horribly bad. I have NO appetite and have nausea and diahrea most of the time. But other than that I am okay (well besides the no energy part). Any help is appreciated.

[melinda7.5]

Originally Posted by feelalone

Melinda,

I am back to taking a little bit, about 1 mg I would guess, as I am just taking off a tiny piece of the sub. I have probably 8 (8mg) pills left. My doctor has been good, but we are moving out of state in two weeks so I am freaking out now. I would really appreciate help on tapering off of these. I am still depressed even on this low dose, but not horribly bad. I have NO appetite and have nausea and diahrea most of the time. But other than that I am okay (well besides the no energy part). Any help is appreciated.

Hi feelalone
Robert or Musicman will be along soon to help you with a taper plan..
We need to get you fixed up before you move...

Talk to you soon, Melinda

[feelalone]

Thank you, I will be waiting! I have been so sick the last week. I am thinking it is due to the decreased sub, but I don't want to go back up any since I have gotten this far on this small dose. I really appreciate the help here, I have been doing a lot of reading and hope that someday I can be on the other side helping someone else.

[Robert_325]

If you've been on it for two months it's time to begin tapering off. So tell exactly what dose you've taken for the last two weeks. Have you taken it at the same time each day, in the morning and the afternoon? Give me some specifics of what you've done and we will make you a taper plan that will work just fine. God bless.

[feelalone]

Hi Robert,

For the last two weeks I have been taking 'about' 2 mg a day. Usually in the morning sometime. Last week I stopped totally for a couple days (when I posted) and did horrid. So on Sunday I started taking about 1mg again. I have taken that for the last 4 days in the morning. I am feeling a bit sick, but not sure if that is why. I have a lot of nausea (to the point of vomitting at least once a day) and diahrea. I get a bit anxious by the end of the day. Yesterday I took 1/2 of a valium (I was prescribed them to help sleep months ago and don't use them much do to my new fear of addiction) and that helped quite a bit with the anxiety. I can tolerate the w/d (if that is what they are for sure) at the 1 mg okay. I wake at about 4 every morning with HORRIBLE cramping and diahrea though. I have been taking Immodium AD but am worried I will take to much. I really thought that since my dose was so little I could just stop, but I now know I need to do it differently, and need help My psych that prescribed them is really helpful, but quite honestly, he doesn't really know what I am going through (as far as having gone through it himself) and seems to think the longer I am on the sub the better. So I am ready to taper off. I have about 8 (8mg) tablets left. Will this be enough? Thanks for your help! I am so impressed with the help so many of you offer on here. It is heart warming to see such compassion and care. God be with you, and bless you through out your day.

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by feelalone

Hi Robert,

For the last two weeks I have been taking 'about' 2 mg a day. Usually in the morning sometime. Last week I stopped totally for a couple days (when I posted) and did horrid. So on Sunday I started taking about 1mg again. I have taken that for the last 4 days in the morning. I am feeling a bit sick, but not sure if that is why. I have a lot of nausea (to the point of vomitting at least once a day) and diahrea. I get a bit anxious by the end of the day. Yesterday I took 1/2 of a valium (I was prescribed them to help sleep months ago and don't use them much do to my new fear of addiction) and that helped quite a bit with the anxiety. I can tolerate the w/d (if that is what they are for sure) at the 1 mg okay. I wake at about 4 every morning with HORRIBLE cramping and diahrea though. I have been taking Immodium AD but am worried I will take to much. I really thought that since my dose was so little I could just stop, but I now know I need to do it differently, and need help My psych that prescribed them is really helpful, but quite honestly, he doesn't really know what I am going through (as far as having gone through it himself) and seems to think the longer I am on the sub the better. So I am ready to taper off. I have about 8 (8mg) tablets left. Will this be enough? Thanks for your help! I am so impressed with the help so many of you offer on here. It is heart warming to see such compassion and care. God be with you, and bless you through out your day.

Having eight 8mg pills might be enough. Don't stop or do anything suddenly. This will be easy I promise. And you dropped 50% of your dose which is entirely too much. That's why you're having w/d symptoms.

For the next drop you should have gone from 2mg to 1.5mg split into two doses as best as you can cut it with a single edged razor. You shouldn't need the valium after you get settled down and doing this properly for a while. I don't like the 1mg so you decide what you want to do about that.

You shouldn't require the Immodium AD either though it won't hurt you unless you took and awful lot. You shouldn't need it taking the right amount of sub. God bless.

[feelalone]

so are you saying to go back up to 1.5mg and split that into twice a day? I can call my psychologist and go get a refill for more, I want to do this correctly to make it as easy as possible.

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by feelalone

so are you saying to go back up to 1.5mg and split that into twice a day? I can call my psychologist and go get a refill for more, I want to do this correctly to make it as easy as possible.

That is correct. You'll notice a difference instantly. God bless.

[feelalone]

Okay, I will start that today. Then what do I do from there? How long do I stay at this dosage?

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by feelalone

Okay, I will start that today. Then what do I do from there? How long do I stay at this dosage?

Give it a good four days, maybe five. I want you to get totally stabilized again, then we will taper you down properly. It won't take that long. Just be naive enough to go along with my suggestions and they will work I promise you. God bless.

[feelalone]

okay. Do you think I need to get a prescription for more suboxone?

[Robert_325]

[QUOTE=feelalone;228129]okay. Do you think I need to get a prescription for more suboxone?[/QUOTE





If you have eight 8mg pills that should be enough. God bless.

[feelalone]

Good Morning Robert,
I wanted to let you know how things are today. I went back up to 1.5 mg yesterday and split it in two doses. I feel better, but still woke up this morning vomitting and having horrible cramps and diahrea. Took my sub and so far okay I think. I haven't been the same mentally since this whole addiction started but I'm definately not a mess like I am when I am withdrawing. Is it normal to not have any energy while doing this? I just can't get motivated to do anything, and I seem to have that lingering nausea (which could be from something else for all I know). Hope your day is going well, God Bless.






If you have eight 8mg pills that should be enough. God bless. [/QUOTE]

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by feelalone

Good Morning Robert,
I wanted to let you know how things are today. I went back up to 1.5 mg yesterday and split it in two doses. I feel better, but still woke up this morning vomitting and having horrible cramps and diahrea. Took my sub and so far okay I think. I haven't been the same mentally since this whole addiction started but I'm definately not a mess like I am when I am withdrawing. Is it normal to not have any energy while doing this? I just can't get motivated to do anything, and I seem to have that lingering nausea (which could be from something else for all I know). Hope your day is going well, God Bless.

You should feel better after a couple days at the adjusted dose. It's kind of like getting stabilized again, almost like re-inducting.

The motivation, energy level, all of those things take a little time to come back. I abused opiates for a long time, over 30 years, but I still have sleep issues. It's a permanent CNS issue with me that I doubt you'll have to deal with.

Most people don't do this garbage for 35 years like I was convinced that I had to do. Take care and God bless.

[feelalone]

Hi Robert,
I have a question, am I supposed to continue taking the suboxone twice a day for these 4 (or whenever I am ready to taper again) days?

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by feelalone

Hi Robert,
I have a question, am I supposed to continue taking the suboxone twice a day for these 4 (or whenever I am ready to taper again) days?

Yes stay on two doses daily. Split the daily dose evenly in the two doses for now. Doing it like this will help to make the taper easier trust me. God bless.

[feelalone]

Hi Robert,
I feel so much better today. Amazing what happens when you listen I woke up this morning not throwing up or running to the bathroom for the other end's issues, for the first time in over a week. The thought of eating doesn't totally repulse me either. I would still rather lay on the couch and sleep then take care of my house and kids, but I CAN function even if I don't want to!

[melinda7.5]

Hi feelalone
Im glad our starting to feel better
Talk to you later, Melinda

[feelalone]

Yesterday and today I have taken about 1mg of sub. Yesterday was accidental, I forgot my night dose. Felt fine today so stuck with the 1mg this morning. If I feel like I need more tonight I will take .25 (as it is time to taper down by .25 and I was at 1.25) otherwise I will stay at 1mg for at least the 4 day and see if I have no withdrawals. During my whole process of trying to get pain drug free I have lost about 40lbs do to illlness from this. Over the last 4 days I actually gained 1 lb....that must be a good sign

[Robert_325]

You need to stay on the dose just like I suggest to you. Subs have a long half life. You could feel fine for a day not taking any, then not notice it getting w/d symptoms until the following day. Just follow the suggestions exactly as they are given to you and you'll be successful. I would tell you to not change anything I've said to do too early. If I recall correctly you were to remain at your dose until you reduce on Tuesday. God bless.

[feelalone]

Originally Posted by Robert_325

You need to stay on the dose just like I suggest to you. Subs have a long half life. You could feel fine for a day not taking any, then not notice it getting w/d symptoms until the following day. Just follow the suggestions exactly as they are given to you and you'll be successful. I would tell you to not change anything I've said to do too early. If I recall correctly you were to remain at your dose until you reduce on Tuesday. God bless.

Thanks Robert, it is Tuesday...what now? 1.25? once a day or twice a day. It is hard to know I am taking the right dose. I am using a razor but even with that the pieces are so small that is will be easy to mess up by a tiny bit

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by feelalone

Thanks Robert, it is Tuesday...what now? 1.25? once a day or twice a day. It is hard to know I am taking the right dose. I am using a razor but even with that the pieces are so small that is will be easy to mess up by a tiny bit

Twice per day. Just cut the doses as close as you can get them. That is close enough for our purposes. God bless.