[JustChillen]

..This was inspiring.

Im on day 4 or 5. And what I believe you should try and do at times when your feeling worst, try and trick your mind. Like you don't feel like ********. Like move around a lot. It will get your body going. Do little tasks in the house that you normally wouldn't do or that you used to do. Not only wll you be doing positive reinforcement, you'll be taking your mind off the agony of all the pain your going through. This is all of what I've been doing..some things. I also take a multivitamin, a b12 pill, a calcium citrate plus vitamin d, a vitamin d 400 pill, a 1mg folic acid pill..I also drink these protein shakes and bars..also some engery bars might help.. try to stay away from processed food..like fast food and freezer ********. Try and get nice home cooked meals with a vegetable..like asaprgus. it has electroytes in it and brocoli. also as you know gatorade and lots of water.

now me personally, you asked if theres a such thing if you could ever take another pill again without a relapse? well that is dependin on the person. now that u know what can happen..can u make ureself stronger to know better.. i mean, personally.. if u were to ever trust ureself to have another pill again, i wouldnt do it anytime soon. for me, personally, i know months down the line, i could take a pill or two while smokin a lil pot just to feel nice without relapsin..u know? cuz when i got myself into this mess, i never knew it was addictive. i never knew what kind of control this drug could have on you. i am not one to be a addict nor have a addict personality not even an experimenter with drugs. never done E. never done coke, crack, heroin, morphine..except when i had my personal pain button in the hospital..lol..but that didnt do ******** to me..i never did acid..weed was my only choice of drug.because it is not a controlling drug for most people..i was able to stop n start that whenever i wanted too..and really i do not even consider it a drug.. i swear it heals.. it especially helps me so much with this opiate withdrawal..aww boy does it..it helps me rest easy..helps wit the headaches.. if u smoke or have b4, give it a try but if u think u then might get hooked on that ..just keep doing it the way ure doing. everybody knows theyre body best so dont just go completely by some list.. take pieces from one source..pieces from another..and then do things that u FEEL make ure body feel better.. god bless..i am going through this exact same thing as u r RIGHT NOW and am only on day 4- or 5 as u r i think as welll.. we can do this..i posted a thread on my same prob its labeled SLEEP-PROBLEM.

[myhubbyandi]

WOW!! You are amazing! Keep hanging in there!

I get the same throat/heart pain/burning. For me, the worst is the feeling, as well. My husband and I both end up having inappropriate laughter and crying at different times. Then, other times, you just feel paralyzed like you can't move or deal with anything because your coping mechanism has been taken away.

Keep moving on! Don't look back!!! I want to see someone succeed. I need to see someone succeed!!!

[KMH120]

I’m now 11 days clean, I seriously thought it had been weeks! Oh well so much for time flying by. It hasn’t been easy but I’m still here.

Thanks Melinda. I have been in that shell for the last year of my life. Everything is hard to face and going back there wouldn’t make it go away it would just put it out of my mind for that day. I guess that’s part of being a adult, you can’t run from your problems anymore you have to face them head on.

Just Chillen, I’m not much on pot, but I have been told it does help with the wd’s. I do make myself get out of bed and do as much as I can. I still feel bad but I force myself to run every morning, that helps some. Once you get past the physical part of the wd’s depression kicks in and nothing feels right. I still have hot flashes and sweat horrible at times, I don’t know if that is normal or not hopefully that will go away sometime. You said that you didn’t know how addictive opiates could be, wish I could say that. I went into this knowing exactly what would happen and I did it anyway! I wish you the best of luck with your addiction, I know it is a hard battle to win.

Myhubbiandi, It really helps to know that there are other people that know where you stand. I have had people tell me how easy it “should” be to just quit using. Well all I have to say to them is they have no clue what they are talking about. This can happen to anyone, no one is above it. I felt so ashamed of myself for so long but now I just fell like I’m only human; I’m not perfect in any way. I will succeed in this but I won’t do it alone. There are many people on this board that will succeed with me. You and your husband will and in the end you two will be stronger for it.

“I’m still lost but at least I can see where I’m going.”

" Religion is for people who are afraid they'll go to hell. Spirituality is for people who have been there."

"If you share your pain you cut it in half, if you don't you double it."

[myhubbyandi]

Hi!

I was just checking in to see how everything is going with you?

I loved your quote about religion/spirituality and couldn't agree more!

Whatever is going on in your life, just know I'm praying for you!

Originally Posted by Robert_325

Day five is usually a big day in opiate detox. It really does suck going through all this but it's so worth it. Now you can get your life back.

I think it's wise of you to get involved in a good recovery program. It helped save me when I got off drugs. Not sure I would have made it without NA.

I am one of the people who believes that we are NOT always addicts (contrary to NA), at least not the way I define it. I suppose if you continue living your life the same and the only thing that gets changed is using you would still basically be an addict, just not using.

I am not the same person I was ten years ago any longer. I don't live the same way, go to the same places or see the same people. I know that all things are possible through Christ for those who have faith. I became a new creation when I was saved through Christ and being an addict is NOT a part of that. So I guess it depends on who we are, what we believe and how we live.

I'm not saying I can use drugs successfully. The thing is I don't want drugs anymore, my want-to has changed. I have NO cravings, the thought of taking RX opiates disgusts me. So how can I be classified as an addict? Not wanting to start a controversy on the forum but that's how I feel about me. I know what I believe is right for me. You'll have to determine what is right for you. God bless.

This is Linda, how are you and Melinda doing? Are you stressed about wedding planning? Melinda, are you? I was reading your post Robert and it reminded me of a view I read about. It was by the guy who started Promises in Malibu. He had a son named Pax who was a heroin addict and I think he quit about 40 times. Good story but can't remember the title, anyway it was the first time I had read that view and it was hard for me to understand. He said the same thing, his son, and later his clients were no longer addicts because they had no use for it anymore. Maybe cuz the addict in me says , Does that mean I can use and control it now? Guess that shows I'm not far enough along, and No I do not want to use and I don't have cravings for opiates. I do have cravings for lots of money, no work, extensive travel plans, and a maid. Take care of each other. Love, Linda

[Robert_325]

Hi Linda .... since you got clean I don't get to talk to you much anymore. Seems we are always on the same side of posts these days. Thank you for hanging around and helping like you do. You have helped lots of people, me one of them. I appreciate it.

I'm personally not stressed at all about the upcoming wedding. It was my idea! I think that I'm getting a pretty good deal out of this wedding. We'll be leaving for Houston at the first of the month. Will be there for a couple weeks for the wedding. We'll be getting married in my church there. I'm also closing on my house in Houston while we're there, I found a buyer. So I have more things to do when I get there than I know what to do with.

Lots of people totally disagree with my feelings about addiction. And that's okay. I understand that everyone doesn't believe like I do, that everyone isn't a Christian either. I respect everyone's right to believe however they choose to. I don't try to slam my beliefs, I would rather persuade by attraction.

People that I meet online here didn't know me before I got clean. They don't see what a piece of garbage scumbag I truly was, how many really "not nice" things I did during my life in addiction. When my life was changed through Christ it really had a miraculous effect on me. Everything changed about me for the better I think. I never mean to be a wise guy about the addiction thing, I really know that when I was saved through Christ I became a new person. I don't expect anyone to agree with me unless it happens to them too. It's quite an experience, I am a new creature, a totally new person.

I felt like you for a long time after I got clean. I wondered if I could use again and that led me to relapse a couple times. But I am finally at the point where it really disgusts me to think about living like that again. I remember VERY WELL how it felt when I would start getting off to a big handful of pills. My usual was six 30mg roxies, four soma and at least two xanax bars. I would do that about five or six times each day. That's pretty bad I know but it totally turns me off to even think about it anymore. I just don't have the WANT TO anymore. As long as I continue to live like I do today I will never relapse again.

Take care Linda. We'll talk later. I'm about to walk out the door heading to a Bible study at church. God bless.

[melinda7.5]

Originally Posted by brndout

This is Linda, how are you and Melinda doing? Are you stressed about wedding planning? Melinda, are you? I was reading your post Robert and it reminded me of a view I read about. It was by the guy who started Promises in Malibu. He had a son named Pax who was a heroin addict and I think he quit about 40 times. Good story but can't remember the title, anyway it was the first time I had read that view and it was hard for me to understand. He said the same thing, his son, and later his clients were no longer addicts because they had no use for it anymore. Maybe cuz the addict in me says , Does that mean I can use and control it now? Guess that shows I'm not far enough along, and No I do not want to use and I don't have cravings for opiates. I do have cravings for lots of money, no work, extensive travel plans, and a maid. Take care of each other. Love, Linda

Hi Linda
I'm not stressed at all...LOL,but Roberts sister is, poor girl is down in Texas trying to put things together for us,I will owe her big time...

I hope you know what a big help you are,I'm always telling Robert...OH Linda gave a good post on that one !!! and he says yes she did...
you are truly a blessing...
OH if you get the pic straightened out I want to see it OK...
Talk to you soon, Melinda

Originally Posted by melinda7.5

Hi Linda
I'm not stressed at all...LOL,but Roberts sister is, poor girl is down in Texas trying to put things together for us,I will owe her big time...

I hope you know what a big help you are,I'm always telling Robert...OH Linda gave a good post on that one !!! and he says yes she did...
you are truly a blessing...
OH if you get the pic straightened out I want to see it OK...
Talk to you soon, Melinda

Thank you guys !!!