[archer_bach]

Thanks Aunty

[erinkj]

I feel for you man. Good Luck!

[erinkj]

Hello, I am fully aware that you are not a Doctor however, you are a smart woman with rather extensive knowlege in these matters. I would also like to take a moment to tell you that I feel what you do here is beyond kind, you give comfort to so many by devoting your time to the research you do and sharing it here. I do not know you but, Lady you have a golden heart! I wish the best of luck and love to you and your daughter. I hope that she is doing well. She is very blessed to have you. I have had much experience in my life in taking care of loved one's who were/are very ill. I hope that you are able to take time out for yourself!!! That said; I have posted some here and will be posting more soon. If you happen to read any of my posts and have any advice to offer, it will be most welcome. I have/do alot of research into SSRI meds more in relation to panic/anxiety and migrain however, I am only begining to scratch the surface at researching how to heal my brain. If you know of any particular web links to reliable information on this topic, that you could share I would be most greatful. Thank you and GOd Bless. Erin...

[auntybiotic]

Originally Posted by erinkj

Hello to all. I have been devouring these message boards for a few weeks now although I only just registered. Everything I read on here has me shaking my head in the affirmative so vigorously that I think I have pulled muscles in my neck. First and foremost, I wish to thank you all for these wonderful posts, just reading them has helped me maintain some sanity as things have been very rough for me and getting more difficult everyday. My story is not unlike that of many others posting on this site, yet I will provide a brief intro for now. I am a 34 yr old female, diagnosed in 1996 with panic/anxiety disorder. ( I foolishly hit ABSOLUTE rock bottom before seeking help then. Hospitalized with IV's and a feeding tube for 3 days. I will elaborate further at a later date to any who would like to know more about that) I began my SSRI journey with Paxil and maxed out on 60mg ( I think) for 4 yrs before dropping down to 40. About 2 yrs later the Paxil hit its expiration for me. It simply quite working. Dr raised the dose again etc, nothing, nadda it simply no longer worked for me. After that we ran the gamut of meds. Dr switched me directly from one to another every time with no tapering. Each time my meds were switched I started at a comparable strength to the previous one. To date there are two I have not had, they are: Luvox and Cymbalta. After many trials I settled with Lexapro 20mg for about a year until I changed jobs and no longer had insurance to pay for it. Where I live the cheapest I could get Lex then was for $72.00. Nothing doing, I live on a budget. So, I started the generic version of Celexa 40mg, as it is Lex's parent drug and Lex had no generic. I stayed on this med for 3 yrs. It only cost me $16.00 a month. I t seemed to work well enough, I felt stable at least. The problem was constant fatigue, numbed feelings, no sex drive etc,etc. I have been on SSRI meds for a total of 11 years. The longest I had ever been off was maybe for a week. No one EVER told me anything about discontinuation/withdrawal problems from this class of meds even though I had asked. The Dr would only ever tell me that some people had to use them for life and I should keep taking them. So, I did. DUH! The times when I missed pills or forgot to refill them, the panic symptoms would slap me in the face enough to convince me that I still had this unbearable panic problem. So, I would continue the meds and all the side effects that came with them. At one point I was on Imitrex and proprananol for migraines as well as the SSRI. ( Seretonin syndrom was NEVER mentioned. After a mild stroke I quite the migrain meds) About a year ago I had a class on substance abuse ( I am full time college student. Junior) in which SSRI's were discussed as being a mind altering substance. Before that time I admit to not having known or ever questioned this possibility. I remember vividly the feelings of absolute betrayal and ignorance that washed over me that day. I was utterly stunned. I spoke with my professor after class and hit the web researching at a breakneck speed. Everything I read depressed me more. I would try to go off my meds and my boyfriend ( husband now) would get upset with me and bug me until I would start them again. I am now 4 and a half weeks off of Lexepro and in desperate need of encouragement, hence this post. After all the reading I have done here, I know that I came off Lex far to quickly and did not taper near as long as I should have. At this point I am trying desperately not to go back on any SSRI's ( especially Lex) I am taking xanax several times a day .5mg which helps immensely. My family are not fully aware of what I am dealing with. I don't think they would truly understand. I have chosen not to turn to my mother or sister as they have their own problems and I do not wish to burden them. What I need now more than ever is understanding and encouragement. I feel like this is the only place in the world ( allbeit cyber) that I am not alone! Wish me well and thanks again for all of the wonderful posts. Erin

Thank you for your kind words. My daughter is a teenager and often she does not listen to any suggestions I offer her for supplementing to help her thru this. It can be frustrating at times but I am sure most of the defiance is from the lexapro withdrawal. As all know, tapering off lexapro can make one VERY GRUMPY.............. to put it mildly.

If you have any specific questions in regards to your situation, I will try to offer advice from what I have learned from others.
If you have had time to read this thread, there are some excellent links to SSRI info. I would HIGHLY recommend Dr Ann Blake Tracy's Book and webste.
http://www.drugawareness.org/
http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com...nightmare.html
http://groups.msn.com/harmfulhouseho...23116769413059

Google Dr Anne Blake tracy SSRI and you will get about 15 pages of articles.
Thank you again for your post.

aunty

[auntybiotic]

With Flu season coming soon, there are so many over the counter and RX drugs that interact with lexapro and could induce serotnin syndrome. Please print this list and refer to it befor taking ANY medication.
http://www.drugs.com/drug_interactio...0(escitalopram)
aunty

[erinkj]

Originally Posted by auntybiotic

Thank you for your kind words. My daughter is a teenager and often she does not listen to any suggestions I offer her for supplementing to help her thru this. It can be frustrating at times but I am sure most of the defiance is from the lexapro withdrawal. As all know, tapering off lexapro can make one VERY GRUMPY.............. to put it mildly.

If you have any specific questions in regards to your situation, I will try to offer advice from what I have learned from others.
If you have had time to read this thread, there are some excellent links to SSRI info. I would HIGHLY recommend Dr Ann Blake Tracy's Book and webste.
http://www.drugawareness.org/
http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com...nightmare.html
http://groups.msn.com/harmfulhouseho...23116769413059

Google Dr Anne Blake tracy SSRI and you will get about 15 pages of articles.
Thank you again for your post.

aunty

Teenager...OUCH. Adding pubecent hormone fluctions to LEX withdrawl...You have your hands full! I can relate to the teenage part as I have an 18 year old daughter. I cannot begin to fathom how trying it must be for you at times. Looking back to my daughter's mid-teen menstrual cycles, I admit there were times I could have gleefully choked her. . You certainly have my respect. She will thank you for it all one day! My daughter has had a few panic attacks in recent years (hereditary disfunction) Thankfully
I was able to be there for her when they occured. I have been very furnunate to have her. She is very understanding about what I am going through now as well as what I have been through in the past. We have very open discussion there.. I pray that she never has to go through what I have. She will start college in the spring and is majoring in psychology. I am very proud of her. I will check out the links you provided and get a copy of Dr. Tracys book ( Im an avid reader) I had an apt today at the psych office with a clinician and a therapist ( the new psychiatrist doesnt start there until dec, I think the last one tried to kill me with the taper he had me on) I think they are putting me back on Celexa starting at 20mg. I will know for sure when I go to the pharmacy in the morning. I made it clear to these people that my goal is to be SSRI free, and that I will follow their direction so long as I am comfortable with the care given. Otherwise I will go back to my GP for treatment. ( I trust him, he actually cares about my health) My migrains are back which complicates my healing. It's been 3 days now and starting to peak so, I am likely hours away from an E.R. trip. My options for migraine treatment are very limited because of the 11 yrs of SSRI. I cannot take ANYTHING that works through the serotenergic pathways or is caffiene based.(rules out migraine meds) So, I cope. (wearing sunglasses to type this) Ive been feeling very weak since stopping the Lex 4 and half weeks ago, and most recently alot of body aches. My youngest son (he is 11) hugged me tonight before bed and it hurt. Im getting pain and numbness in my arms and hands to ( likely from the migraine) I spent most of my day on the couch and accomplished nothing. I feel like I am being Lazy. I know excersize helps however, my center of balance is slightly off right now, so I wonder if I should start walking now or if I should wait a bit. What do you think? Erin...

[stepoffaith]

I just read your note and I wish I could help you in some way. It has been years since my last migraine and I don't wish it upon anyone. I can't imagine going through withdrawl symptoms and then plopping a migraine on top. I really feel for you. I hope it passes soon!

I took the 10mg on Monday and now just feel so lethargic and lazy. I just want to curl up on the couch for the day. Man this drug really messes with you - I never felt this way when I was taking it consistently.

[erinkj]

Thank you hon. It feels good to talk to people going through the same things. It helps to keep us sane! The fatigue will improve for us both, just sucks feeling like this. We will get through it. I think that the more we remind ourselfs that we will be ok again, the better it helps us to feel! If you are back on some LEX is it helping to improve your mental clarity yet? For me after one dose the fog started to lift a bit. I think my Dr is switching me back to Celexa though. (research it, it is not quit so bad as Lex) I am no expert of course. But for me the Lex is just to hard to take. When you get back to the states be sure to discuss ALL of your options with your Dr. It may be helpful to do some research, print anything that may apply to you and your situation so that you can see your Dr armed with some knowlege that may help you both make the right decisions for your care. Also, check with your Dr while you are there about getting a referal for a care provider in the UK. I know that the health system over there is much different than ours. Your Dr should have access to reliable refferal systems that provide credentials. Keep me posted please, I care. I feel for you being so far away from home. But you are doing a good job. Hang in there. You WILL get through this! Now, I have to go lie down. Even wearing sunglasses the glare from this screen is killing me. (migraines SUCK) Goodnight Erin...

[archer_bach]

Originally Posted by erinkj

Teenager...OUCH. Adding pubecent hormone fluctions to LEX withdrawl...You have your hands full! I can relate to the teenage part as I have an 18 year old daughter. I cannot begin to fathom how trying it must be for you at times. Looking back to my daughter's mid-teen menstrual cycles, I admit there were times I could have gleefully choked her. . You certainly have my respect. She will thank you for it all one day! My daughter has had a few panic attacks in recent years (hereditary disfunction) Thankfully
I was able to be there for her when they occured. I have been very furnunate to have her. She is very understanding about what I am going through now as well as what I have been through in the past. We have very open discussion there.. I pray that she never has to go through what I have. She will start college in the spring and is majoring in psychology. I am very proud of her. I will check out the links you provided and get a copy of Dr. Tracys book ( Im an avid reader) I had an apt today at the psych office with a clinician and a therapist ( the new psychiatrist doesnt start there until dec, I think the last one tried to kill me with the taper he had me on) I think they are putting me back on Celexa starting at 20mg. I will know for sure when I go to the pharmacy in the morning. I made it clear to these people that my goal is to be SSRI free, and that I will follow their direction so long as I am comfortable with the care given. Otherwise I will go back to my GP for treatment. ( I trust him, he actually cares about my health) My migrains are back which complicates my healing. It's been 3 days now and starting to peak so, I am likely hours away from an E.R. trip. My options for migraine treatment are very limited because of the 11 yrs of SSRI. I cannot take ANYTHING that works through the serotenergic pathways or is caffiene based.(rules out migraine meds) So, I cope. (wearing sunglasses to type this) Ive been feeling very weak since stopping the Lex 4 and half weeks ago, and most recently alot of body aches. My youngest son (he is 11) hugged me tonight before bed and it hurt. Im getting pain and numbness in my arms and hands to ( likely from the migraine) I spent most of my day on the couch and accomplished nothing. I feel like I am being Lazy. I know excersize helps however, my center of balance is slightly off right now, so I wonder if I should start walking now or if I should wait a bit. What do you think? Erin...

Hi Erin...

Thanks for your support. I can see we're going through the same doubts and misery... except you are probably where I was a few weeks ago, and I believe even deeper... Well I'm with you in thoughts. In my worst I felt like in a dark tunnel, not enjoying anything out of life anymore... and sleeping 15 hours a day... Now I'm not sleeping before 4 to 7 in the morning, and waking up... throwing myself out of bed around 12 to 5 PM... I'm having bad and better moments. I don't have the guts to look for work, and kicking myself just to do some errants, cook and clean after myself. Tonight, I said the hell with it and ate 6 toasts (only fast food in hand, without going out), and two glasses of juice. Got the steam out. And that pressure in my head... and fuzziness. I wanted to respond before to your encouragement, but did not have the drive... Now I feel better.. at 3:30 in the morning... yeah great. I hope you have understanding people around you... I guess what I wanna tell you and to myself at the same time is ... well let's not put too much pressure on ourselves right? We are obviously not responsible for this.

Thanks for being open, it did me good.

God bless

[archer_bach]

Steppofaith I just saw your posts with Erin... what I said goes for you too apparently...

Yeah the lethargy right? Good Lord! I used to be on fire. Waking up at 6 am on sat. to wash my car... Now it seems it doesn't matter anymore if I take the drug or not... just crashed. Good to have people to share with.

Kind regards

[Ohwell]

I have had that swallow lump thing for 2 months....for the past weeks or so it is getting better...I do think it is withdrawal...someone elso posted a few pages eariler they had some throat issues too....The back of my throat actually felt swollen and restricted somewhat., again I think this can be withdrawal for some. I have a PET scan this Sat. and hopefully it will show nothing going on. Hope you are feeling well today. ohwell.

[erinkj]

Originally Posted by Ohwell

I have had that swallow lump thing for 2 months....for the past weeks or so it is getting better...I do think it is withdrawal...someone elso posted a few pages eariler they had some throat issues too....The back of my throat actually felt swollen and restricted somewhat., again I think this can be withdrawal for some. I have a PET scan this Sat. and hopefully it will show nothing going on. Hope you are feeling well today. ohwell.

I am eaten alive with envy over your pet scan! (joking; kind of) I believe I have moorphed into a paranoid hypochondriac. I swear I have a giant brain tumor or am brewing up an anurism. ( not realy but, the thoughts have crossed my mind) Not trying to make light of your situation. I truly hope the scans show nothing amiss and that all the news is good. On the posetive side, you will have the comfort of knowing either way. Best of luck. Let us know how it goes. Erin...

[erinkj]

Originally Posted by archer_bach

Hi Erin...

Thanks for your support. I can see we're going through the same doubts and misery... except you are probably where I was a few weeks ago, and I believe even deeper... Well I'm with you in thoughts. In my worst I felt like in a dark tunnel, not enjoying anything out of life anymore... and sleeping 15 hours a day... Now I'm not sleeping before 4 to 7 in the morning, and waking up... throwing myself out of bed around 12 to 5 PM... I'm having bad and better moments. I don't have the guts to look for work, and kicking myself just to do some errants, cook and clean after myself. Tonight, I said the hell with it and ate 6 toasts (only fast food in hand, without going out), and two glasses of juice. Got the steam out. And that pressure in my head... and fuzziness. I wanted to respond before to your encouragement, but did not have the drive... Now I feel better.. at 3:30 in the morning... yeah great. I hope you have understanding people around you... I guess what I wanna tell you and to myself at the same time is ... well let's not put too much pressure on ourselves right? We are obviously not responsible for this.

Thanks for being open, it did me good.

God bless

I am right there with you brother! Me, I never sleep more than 4 hrs at a time maximum. Been that way for a couple yrs. ( well, there have been a few times I got 6 hrs, but that is rare) My circadian rythem is real messed up. For the last 4 weeks I sleep in 2 hr increments. Im going to college full time and havent been to school for over a week. Only leaving the house when I have to for now. I have a bit of a paranoia thing going on. I just KNOW people are going to look at me and think "phsycho" The pharmacy has celexa waiting for me. Im going to pick it up when my son gets out of school so he can get groceries with me. I am hoping that he will say "Gee mom, can I have a T.V. dinner PLEASE" ha,ha. I dont have the energy to cook. I hardly have the energy to move at all. That said, have a great day. (well as good of one as you can) I am going to drag my dying *ss back to bed for a couple hours, and then accomplish nothing else today. (again) Catch ya later Erin...

[stepoffaith]

I am so with you on the hypocondriac thing - very unlike me. I too am convinced I have some serious illness causing the lump on my neck and sore throat/lump in my throat thing when I swallow. The only problem is, I have noticed the lump at times this past summer before I came off lex. (I ended up having tonsilitis shortly after that.) My only consolation is that you usually lose weight when you have a serious illness - not a problem for me. In fact, I feel like a blimp these days. Of course that does not help the depression issue.

Ohwell - I would describe my throat issue the same way. Like there is just a smaller space, not really sore most of the time, but just different. I do hope your scan is clean.

Part of me is jealous of some of the comments about sleeping during the day or just doing nothing. That is what I feel like doing but my husband is gone this week and my kids won't let me. It really is a struggle - if I lay around and do nothing, they drive me crazy. But it takes everything in me to go out. I have no ambition to cook - and I love to cook. The kids are eating hot dogs, chicken nuggets, and pasta. I will deal with that guilt another day far from now...I suggest the same for all of you.

Be good to yourself today...forgive yourself for something!

[archer_bach]

Originally Posted by stepoffaith

I am so with you on the hypocondriac thing - very unlike me. I too am convinced I have some serious illness causing the lump on my neck and sore throat/lump in my throat thing when I swallow. The only problem is, I have noticed the lump at times this past summer before I came off lex. (I ended up having tonsilitis shortly after that.) My only consolation is that you usually lose weight when you have a serious illness - not a problem for me. In fact, I feel like a blimp these days. Of course that does not help the depression issue.

Ohwell - I would describe my throat issue the same way. Like there is just a smaller space, not really sore most of the time, but just different. I do hope your scan is clean.

Part of me is jealous of some of the comments about sleeping during the day or just doing nothing. That is what I feel like doing but my husband is gone this week and my kids won't let me. It really is a struggle - if I lay around and do nothing, they drive me crazy. But it takes everything in me to go out. I have no ambition to cook - and I love to cook. The kids are eating hot dogs, chicken nuggets, and pasta. I will deal with that guilt another day far from now...I suggest the same for all of you.

Be good to yourself today...forgive yourself for something!

Hi Erin, Ohwell and Stepofaith,

I thought of something. My baby boy used to have laryngitis. Doctor had explained that children and women had soft larynx, contrary to men who have a hard one, therefore they never or very rarely get laryngitis (men). Maybe this is all a flux like symptom of withdrawl that you're experiencing... I know swolen throat was never one of my symptoms...

Maybe you guys can look this way.. (?)

God bless

[erinkj]

Hello, How is everyone coping this evening? Me, I am stewing in guilt juice; for wasting yet another day. I have some art projects due in the morning and only one is finished. I worked on one for about 10 minutes today, but my hands were a bit to shaky so I gave up. I have more mental clarity and less mania after 2 days back on the meds which, is a good thing. Unfortunately, with that comes more fatigue and a bit of that "I will do that later"/"I dont care" type of feelings. My whole body aches and laying on the couch for hours cant be helping.
I did go get some groceries today and actually cooked dinner tonight. I had forgotten to eat today, so after my belly was full I fell asleep. My husband once told me " It takes a special kind of stupid to forget to eat" well, yes; it kind of does! Easy for him to say though. He is hungry at least every 2 hours and lives on 4,000 calories per day; any less than that and he feels that he is starving to death. ( If I ate that much, my *ss would be the size of a barn) He has to eat alot though. He is a BIG guy and I dont mean fat. (genetic freak of nature )
Tony (my hubby) has been gone all week working. I am kind of glad that he was not home this week, since I was such a mess. ( getting better now) I know he has been worried about me and has some difficulty understanding. We are very sensative to each others emotions. ( Its kind of freaky) I think it was painful for him to see me like that. I have always been "the glue that holds his pieces together" (his words) With all I have gone through in the last month, I have been more like tape than glue.
I know how difficult and frustrating it is to watch a loved one go through hell with their health and life. I understand that feeling of helplessness, of being unable to do anything to fix a problem or produce a miracle cure. I know my husband has been feeling that in relation to my problems. He is trying. And I know that despite my "insanity" (or because of it) he loves me. So, to my husband: Thanks for hanging in there with me and loaning me your strength, I Love You Babe!
And to all the members of this community: It takes alot of heart and great strength to reach out to others, wether it is to ask for help or offer it. The very act of sharing your experiences is more helpfull and inspirational than you may ever know, my heartfelt and deepest thanks to you all. Now doesnt that give you a nice,warm, fuzzy feeling? Goodnight everyone. Erin...

[erinkj]

Originally Posted by stepoffaith

I am so with you on the hypocondriac thing - very unlike me. I too am convinced I have some serious illness causing the lump on my neck and sore throat/lump in my throat thing when I swallow. The only problem is, I have noticed the lump at times this past summer before I came off lex. (I ended up having tonsilitis shortly after that.) My only consolation is that you usually lose weight when you have a serious illness - not a problem for me. In fact, I feel like a blimp these days. Of course that does not help the depression issue.

Ohwell - I would describe my throat issue the same way. Like there is just a smaller space, not really sore most of the time, but just different. I do hope your scan is clean.

Part of me is jealous of some of the comments about sleeping during the day or just doing nothing. That is what I feel like doing but my husband is gone this week and my kids won't let me. It really is a struggle - if I lay around and do nothing, they drive me crazy. But it takes everything in me to go out. I have no ambition to cook - and I love to cook. The kids are eating hot dogs, chicken nuggets, and pasta. I will deal with that guilt another day far from now...I suggest the same for all of you.

Be good to yourself today...forgive yourself for something!

My children are 18, 15 and 11 so, they dont require the constant supervision that your little ones do. I also enjoy cooking although, not lately. Dont beat yourself up. If your little ones still take naps, try and nap when they do. Fatigue makes us all feel lazy and guilty. Remember this: your body needs sufficient rest to heal. And healing is what your brain is trying to do. ( I tell myself that hourly ) I read this book a long time ago called: The four agreements. It was written by a Toltec Shaman (forget his name) In his book he talks about how we should all "do our best everyday" he also explains how "our best" will be different from day to day. When we are sick "our best will not be as good as when we are healthy etc. You have not been well but, you are doing "your best" dinner will not be hot dogs forever and if your children are like most, they probobly think this is a treat. A few of my favorite quotes on children: Kid's make us crazy, that is their job. Insanity is hereditary, you get it from your children. and my all time favorite: As a mother of teenagers, I understand why some animals eat their young. ( not sure who said those, I just like them) I threaten to sell my kids to the terrorists daily, but I wouldnt give them up for anything in the world. ( they think its hilarious) If you have a sitter or someone who could watch the kids for a few hours, some time to yourself would help. Try not to worry about house work to much, it will still be there when you are ready to tackle it! Just dont punish yourself dear. Smile, I know some of those quotes are funny. Goodnight. Erin... P.S. I forgave my self for not getting my homework done.

[Ohwell]

Hey all,

I'm feeling a bit down today...guess my impending test looming large is giving me some anxiety. clearing my throat alot lately, think I've had sinus drip for a couple of months now... my bible study was great this morning...
Coming up on 3 months off and thought the anxiety was long gone...
ohwell.

[HappyDad]

Well, today marks week # 7 for me being off of Lexapro. I'm feeling much better, but I'm still experiencing some anxiety (mostly at work) and occasional bouts of mild depression. My new Dr. put me on 1mg of Klonopin at bedtime to help with witdrawal. I've been taking Klonopin for 9 weeks. My Dr. plans to ween me off of the Klonopin the first week of January.

To re-cap, I was on 15mg of Lexapoison for 3 years. I experienced severe headaches on a weekly basis the entire time I was taking Lex. I was diagnosed with GAD. I tapered off of lex over a period of 7 weeks.

Here is a list of what I've experienced so far:
- Moderate depression (off and on)
- Crying spells
- Lump in my throat
- Sore eyes
- Dry eyes
- Increase in tinnitus
- Major headaches
- Major fatigue
- Burning sensation in my head and arms
- Dizziness
- Anxiety
- Insomnia
- Irritability
- Nausea
- Abdominal pain

Most of these symptoms have either gone away now or have gotten to the point to where they're managable with some effort. Some symptoms still come and go. The major issue for me now is managing the anxiety (depression is the shadow of anxiety).

I'm currently attending talk therapy and have recently begun Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT). This seems to help a lot. I'm working through a book called Feeling Good. It's sort of the bible of CBT. The excercises in the book really do help reduce anxiety and depression. I also try to excercise at least for 30 minutes, 3 - 4 times per week.

With much reluctance, I recently joined a Yoga class. My therapist said it would do wonders for me. I'm a christian so I had to call several Yoga centers in the area before I found one that wasn't passing off eastern religion desguised as eastern philosophy. I don't mean this to offend anyone here who subscribes to any eastern religions and I'm not one of those over the top Christians that throws the baby out with the bathwater (I dig a lot of the eastern philosophy). So far the Yoga class has been very enjoyable and beneficial.

Remember, as long as there is life there is hope! I'll keep you posted on my progress.

[Ohwell]

I was glad to see the "lump in throat" among your withdrawals...as I've had that too.

Today for me is miserable...Tomorrow is month 3 off for me and also my big pet scan...I woke up feeling not rested, tired, weak, and my sinus drip is still here after 2 months....I didn't really believe that my withdrawals could come back after going away. I have felt good for about 2 weeks now, and now this...I just feel flusih, and "heavy" if that makes sense. My hands are also a little shakey. Can someone encourage me? ugggggh. ohwell.

[SL500]

Originally Posted by HappyDad

Well, today marks week # 7 for me being off of Lexapro. I'm feeling much better, but I'm still experiencing some anxiety (mostly at work) and occasional bouts of mild depression. My new Dr. put me on 1mg of Klonopin at bedtime to help with witdrawal. I've been taking Klonopin for 9 weeks. My Dr. plans to ween me off of the Klonopin the first week of January.

To re-cap, I was on 15mg of Lexapoison for 3 years. I experienced severe headaches on a weekly basis the entire time I was taking Lex. I was diagnosed with GAD. I tapered off of lex over a period of 7 weeks.

Here is a list of what I've experienced so far:
- Moderate depression (off and on)
- Crying spells
- Lump in my throat
- Sore eyes
- Dry eyes
- Increase in tinnitus
- Major headaches
- Major fatigue
- Burning sensation in my head and arms
- Dizziness
- Anxiety
- Insomnia
- Irritability
- Nausea
- Abdominal pain

Most of these symptoms have either gone away now or have gotten to the point to where they're managable with some effort. Some symptoms still come and go. The major issue for me now is managing the anxiety (depression is the shadow of anxiety).

I'm currently attending talk therapy and have recently begun Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT). This seems to help a lot. I'm working through a book called Feeling Good. It's sort of the bible of CBT. The excercises in the book really do help reduce anxiety and depression. I also try to excercise at least for 30 minutes, 3 - 4 times per week.

With much reluctance, I recently joined a Yoga class. My therapist said it would do wonders for me. I'm a christian so I had to call several Yoga centers in the area before I found one that wasn't passing off eastern religion desguised as eastern philosophy. I don't mean this to offend anyone here who subscribes to any eastern religions and I'm not one of those over the top Christians that throws the baby out with the bathwater (I dig a lot of the eastern philosophy). So far the Yoga class has been very enjoyable and beneficial.

Remember, as long as there is life there is hope! I'll keep you posted on my progress.

Hi...I just read your post and congrads on being Lex free!!! I am posting to you in regards to the klonzapan. I am currently taking 10mgs of lex and .25 of klonz 1x at night. Under my doc's supervision, I was told to take the klonz once a day but NOT told to take it for NO LONGER than 2 weeks straight. The past few months I was undecisive on which to come off of first. So here I am, wanting to get off of these meds and was advised by another doc to get off of the klonz first as for the Lex is the lesser of the two evils. PLEASE be careful weaning off of the klonz. You were able to get off of the lexapro in 7 weeks which is great, so I am sure you shouldn't have a big problem with the klonzapan, but I am just saying to be careful as I am only on .25 1 x at night and am having a hard time weaning. I am also very sensative to meds - but this is just me. So just take it slow...some of these docs think that you can stop taking these meds in a matter of days/weeks, when in fact it takes a lot longer....

This is just my advice....

[erinkj]

Originally Posted by Ohwell

I was glad to see the "lump in throat" among your withdrawals...as I've had that too.

Today for me is miserable...Tomorrow is month 3 off for me and also my big pet scan...I woke up feeling not rested, tired, weak, and my sinus drip is still here after 2 months....I didn't really believe that my withdrawals could come back after going away. I have felt good for about 2 weeks now, and now this...I just feel flusih, and "heavy" if that makes sense. My hands are also a little shakey. Can someone encourage me? ugggggh. ohwell.

I am so sorry that you are having a tough time . Not trying to pry but I wondered if the relapse you are feeling may be due to a monthly shift in hormones? ( Dont want to offend male sensetivities) I keep thinking that you said something about having been put on SSRI for anxiety, is that right? Panic/ anxiety is why I was given these meds (11 freakin yrs ago) . Even when the meds worked I still felt anxiety type symptoms just before and during my monthly, ie: shaky hands, feeling on edge, headahe and sometimes stuffy nose. It was just a thought. AS for encouragement.....3 MONTHS! YOU have made it 3 MONTHS!! I lasted 4 weeks and know I am on celexa, who knows how long it will take me to wean. Your accomplishment has given me hope that I to can get off these meds . I for one am proud of you. Quiting Lex is incredibly difficult and yet, YOU DID IT! I know that you are worried about your upcomming scan. If you are anything like me, your mind is full of "what if's" and that has you a bit overwhelmed. I know how hard it is to "look on the bright side" when you feel so icky. Maybee if you reflect back on all the h*ll you have made it through so far it will help you feel better about where you are now and maybee give you some more strength. I dont have the lump in my throat so, I can only imagine how that must feel. I wish I could do something...anything to help you. I hope that knowing you are in our thoughts and prayers will help you in some way. Hang in there, you WILL get through this. All my best Erin...

[Ohwell]

I was put on Lex. 10mg. when I was diagnosed with lymphoma 1.7 years ago.
They thought it would "help" me through the chemo.

I get re-scaned every 6 months for the first 2 years to make sure the cancer is still gone.

Yes, the swelling of my glands has caused me a bit of stress.

I don't have "cycles" anymore....total hyst. at age 38....I'm 44 now.

I never wanted to be on Lex. Just told it would help, & was so sick I
did what they said. Sure regret it now, esp. since my liver is messed up.

I've been off Lex. 3 months (tomorrow).

I do pray my scan is ok. And God will have mercy on me and give me a season of good health. Thank you for you kind words. Sometimes when I feel bad, I seem so alone. But my case is weird, I have never been depressed, I was just sick.....ohwell.

[erinkj]

Sweety I am soo very sorry. I did not realize. Life can be so very unfair at times. Knowing this makes me even more PROUD of you though. Luckily I never had to have chemo, but I am WELL versed in its effects. (cancer runs in my family) What a trooper you are! Hysterectomies as you know realy mess up a woman by throwing your body into menopause overnight. That cannot have been an easy transition. I know some about lymphoma as someone very close to me had it. I understand better now why you are so worried and wish very much that I could give you a hug! Lady, you have come soo far; you are TOUGH, you are STRONG and most importantly, you have FAITH. No what if's allowed , keep ahold of your faith and it will guide you through. Please keep me posted, I want to know how your tests go. You are in my thoughts and prayers! Luck and Love to you...Erin

[sea_true]

Hi, this is a new post, I've been reading these posts over the last two weeks.
I thought I would feel better doing some posts of my own!

Wow, Lexapro, what terrible stuff. I am caught in the midst of a nightmare as I stopped taking Lexapro and shocked by system twice in a three week period. I took 10mg once, then three weeks later I took 10mg a second time (and the symptoms were 10 times worse) and have been off it for just over two weeks. My nerves are ultra hyper-sensitive, when I lie down I can feel through my body even a creak in the wall! My skin becomes very hot when I exert myself. Heaven forbid the various dilations I see in my eyes when I look in the mirror - comes and goes. (I believe I got seratonin syndrome since I have had such a negative experience from taking only one pill.) I feel like I'm just hoping it will get better. If anyone can offer a helpful resonse I would greatly appreciate!

Good Luck to you all...

[musicvp]

Originally Posted by fighting_back

To all with Lexapro withdrawal problems, I am currently experiencing what I unlovingly call "Stage Two" of withdrawal. This is the stage when the dizziness becomes only a haunting echo and the sweats and chills diminish. However, the emotional withdrawal has begun. I am prone to crying spells, thoughts of self-harm, and hopelessness, especially at night.

Overall, I have been on Lexapro for a year and a half, and don't think I should ever have been put on it. Psychotropic drugs are very easily prescribed these days, especially to teenagers who experience mood swings due to hormonal fluctuation. Usually you don't even need someone who specializes in psychology to prescribe you, just a fifteen-minute physician's visit and two weeks of samples.

Also, while clinical studies have guaranteed no serious short-term side effects, long-term side effects are generally unknown. My doctor also thought Lexapro was the least-addictive, best-ever anti-depressant she could have put me on. And sure, maybe she didn't do her homework, but most likely she thought it would be okay: because it was relatively new at the time, and no one knew much about it.

The best thing to do is look to our own inner strength and the help of professional therapists to solve one's depression and anxiety. No one knows how artificially increased serotonin levels will effect us in the long run. No one even really knows that much about neurochemistry and serotonin to begin with! Neuroscience, much like medicine in general, is vague and semi-scientific. And the brain is such an important organ to preserve that I recommend strongly one waits until some years in the future when man understands the chemistry of the brain better.

So, from one who is suffering from a desire to 'fight back against the madness,' kudos to those doing the same. It is difficult, and I will update if anything new occurs related with withdrawal.

And advice for those tapering---please do it more slowly. Let your body be your guide. On the second day you experience the side effects of dizziness, take your usual dose. Over a period of two weeks you should be able to cut your dose in half. Your body adjusts itself, but it takes time. Remember that it took at least 2 weeks for Lexapro to work in the first place. Do not put yourself at risk by tapering too quickly. At this point I've been tapering for a month and the dizziness is nearly gone. I take a 10mg dose a little less than twice a week (about every 4-5 days).

Remember that, although psychotropics are an easy answer, sometimes the most lasting changes in life are the hardest. And please don't put your teenager on Lexapro---it is NOT SAFE AND CAN CHANGE THEIR BRAIN CHEMISTRY PERMANENTLY. You do not want to saddle them with a life-long addiction. For those who unwittingly put their children on the drug, seek a professional rehabilitation center (there is usually one associated with your local hospital). Don't let their doctors psychoanalyze your child, just ask them to help him/her get off the drug.

Hope some of this helps.



"A man of clear-cut convictions is impervious to anyone's influence." -A.R.

I appreciate some of the points in this post. Especially about being careful to prescribe Lexapro to under eighteen. Lexapro is a very powerful SSRI, which, in my experience, keeps you even. But it cannot be used in a vacuum. You must see your doctor/psychiatrist once a month to discuss how the drug is impacting your emotions and ability to meet challenging situations without the severe anxiety that once affected you.

I've been on 10 mg of Lexapro for 3 years to cope with severe anxiety brought on by life events and trying an experimental, short-term intesnive Pscychtherapy program at Bellvue Hospital in NYC. The talk therapy program was so difficult and intense, that it threw me into a deeper questioning of life's events. I began to question myself, got depressed and more anxious, to the point it caused physical fits of extreme tension. I visited a psychiatrist who prescibed the Lexapro, and within two to three weeks, combined with talk therapy, things started to even out for me.

It's been three years. I've noticed one of the main side affects for men is decreased libido. You're not as agressive as you once where. It's not that things can't happen, it's just a lesser state of the underlying drive.

I'm not sure about weight gain. I think diet and excersize are important. I know when I eat bad, I gain weight. When I work out and eat right, I lose weight. That's my experience. I really can't say that weight gain is a side affect attributable to Lexapro, or just an unhealthy lifestyle.

I also have Diabetes Type II, so I take various medications for that (Glucophage, Januvia) and I take Hyzaar for blood pressure and Symvistatin for cholestoral.

Given this combination of medicines, I am generally healthy, active, happy and together. I haven't had the symptoms that other people describe their children are having. I also probably don't have the depressive episodes that others encounter either.

However, I am considering starting to go off Lexapro. A few weeks ago, I didn't take my medicine for four days. I'd done that once before when I'd run out. I absolutely felt the difference in my mood. I was less patient with other people. My mind started racing, thinking about anything and everything and I began to feel overwhelminly active and agressive. I knew this was very dangerous for me and I knew that I immediately had to get my Lexapro the next morning.

I can go a day without it, but once I go into the 3rd or 4th day, my body begins to feel the symptoms of withdrawal. I think young people who don't understand what the medicine may or may not do for them and how to interpret the signs could get themselves in real trouble.

I've talked to my therapist about going off of it, but we're looking for the right time, where the external stressors are lowered, to start to think about taking the next step and lowering the dosage. Because of my experiences, I'm a bit scared about coming off Lexapro, because your no longer enhancing the seratonin levels in your brain.

Last weekend, I read an article in the NY Times Sunday Magazine about a doctor who was once paid by a drug company to go around and give talks to doctor's about a depression drug that was supposed to have better results than most S.S.R.I.'s. The drug actually increased hypertesion and proved over time to have about the same relevance as competing drugs.

So, in this day and age, we all must be careful about the drugs we are prescibed from physicians. It would be better to get a second opinion than to start filling your body with medication. First, who knows if you really need it, and couldn't find a way without it. And second, why are so many doctor's prescribing so much medication today? We're all starting to hear about doctors taking money to speak and push these drugs from big pharma. You have to reseach these medicines and ask questions before taking them so you know what you're getting yourself into.

Best,

Music VP

[archer_bach]

Hi guys,

I thought I'd post something and maybe ask a question.

Well, I can't say things are perfect now. I sleep 8 hours a day.. but that's during the daytime... can't seem to stay awake during the day wich I don't know what to do about.. very tired of this. My mood seams to be changing somewhat, but stays in a certain range. I'm thinking of having prescribed celexa liquid... have started to feel the need to shop for christmas and do some skiing yesterday. Was suppose to be today but would have been during sleep... I did the shopping yesterday... well last night.

Ohwell... this is the big day is it? Can't wait to hear from you.

Erin and Steppofaith... hope you are well.

Anyone has a tric to turn things around sleep wise for me... I'd greatly appreciate it... I don't think Ativan is the solution..

Aunty, there is still particules of Lex floating around in my mix, no mather how long I wait and how mutch I stir and cruch... if you stop stiring, the deposit goes in the bottom. I used water and grape juice...

Kind regards

[Ohwell]

Yes, Had the pet scan today, this morning, early. Thanks for asking about me erin...i am very tired. Glowing till tomorrow...the radiation.....uck.

Sure praying God will come through once more for me and let this scan be clean! My neck does feel weird though...hope its just sore neck muscles from withdrawal....know some folks get that....and I think the post nasal drip makes my throat feel weird.

Anyone else have post nasal drip as a withdrawal/or sideeffect to the lex?

Should hear about my test Monday/Tuesday.

Keep taking those supplements everyone...page 188 on this site has alot of info. about nutritional supplements. ohwell.

[erinkj]

The glow part rocks huh?! It's double weird if you have any color tattoo's. My husband has had 3 scans with contrast this year prior to back surgery, he has a huge tat on his back that glowed for 2 days after each scan. Faded the color real bad. ( getting that touched up is going to be expensive) Hubby has also had 2 head scans with contrast this year. They use the big 3 tesla MRI. I have not had any nasal drip, but I am very stuffed up and have to clear my throat constantly. I thought I was catching a cold couple weeks ago but, it kind of comes and goes. Mostly I have constant headache. Tonight it is migrain again. My neck has also been real sore and achy but, I have not seen my chiropracter in a month so, I cant say if its related to meds or not. If I ever figure it out I will let you know. I am very glad your scan is over with. Waiting on results is nerve wracking but at least the scan part is no longer looming. Get some rest and try to pamper yourself a little if you can. Maybe a long soak in a hot tub with bubbles is in order. Sleep well...Erin

[erinkj]

Originally Posted by archer_bach

Hi guys,

I thought I'd post something and maybe ask a question.

Well, I can't say things are perfect now. I sleep 8 hours a day.. but that's during the daytime... can't seem to stay awake during the day wich I don't know what to do about.. very tired of this. My mood seams to be changing somewhat, but stays in a certain range. I'm thinking of having prescribed celexa liquid... have started to feel the need to shop for christmas and do some skiing yesterday. Was suppose to be today but would have been during sleep... I did the shopping yesterday... well last night.

Ohwell... this is the big day is it? Can't wait to hear from you.

Erin and Steppofaith... hope you are well.

Anyone has a tric to turn things around sleep wise for me... I'd greatly appreciate it... I don't think Ativan is the solution..

Aunty, there is still particules of Lex floating around in my mix, no mather how long I wait and how mutch I stir and cruch... if you stop stiring, the deposit goes in the bottom. I used water and grape juice...

Kind regards

Celexa may not be a bad idea, I certainly prefer it to lex; I dont feel that it is near as strong. I did not have near the problems with it as I did the lex but, everyone is different so who knows. I think it is easier to get celexa liquid than lex liquid, or so my pharmacist claims. I take the generic though. Looks like you have your days and nights turned around. (me to, kind of) These meds can realy mess up your circadian rythem/ sleep cycles. Meletonin taken at night is supposed to help with sleep. I reccomend trying to set yourself up on a schedual, like a set bedtime and try sticking to it as best you can and see what happens. I need to do the same thing. It is alot easier telling yourself to do something than actually doing it though, especially when the "I will do it tomorro" thoughts enter your head. I am fighting the same thing and agree with you that it realy sucks. Try a google search on circadian rythem and you should get some good results for correcting sleep cycles. I will let you know if I find anything that works for me. I know that I need to just force myself to get off my butt. It sure is difficult though. Let me know if you figure anything out. Good luck...Erin