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11-26-2007, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SL500 Thanks....I dont know if that is too much of a cut for me. I think I am going to take it slower. I only cut 1/8 of my dose and feel it. It was one week on sat and I have the worst anxiety since wed - thats the worst of it...and also crying spells. I am only on .25mgs 1x at night and it is kicking my b"tt!! I dont really trust my docs as they are the one's who put me on this....It's not even a year I am on it and I feel horrible being on it. I was going to do a water titration to bring it down gradually when I stabalize on this. I am going to give it another week or so and see..... | It is bad stuff. Even .25mg as you have seen can kick your tail. Just hang in there. There will be tough days but you will get better. | 
11-26-2007, 05:17 PM
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| | After meeting with my regular MD he was all for NOT taking the Lexipro but instead working through my stress\anxiety WITHOUT chemicals.
After reading the stories on this thread I am so glad I did not go down the lexipro path.
Now to get fully rid of the Xanax. | 
11-26-2007, 05:44 PM
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| | Julia 77 My eternal thanks. This afternoon I finally broke down and went to see my mom. My mom is great, I am very blessed to have her. She has some very serious health problems and to much stress so, I did not want her to know my problem or worry about me. ( she forgave me) We talked about all that I have learned and what you suggested. Together we decided I should take the lex.
I took 10mg of Lex at 2pm and .5 xanax at the same time. It is to early to say if the Lex helped. however, I have acid reflux now! UGH. Could be stress. (its probobly the Lex) I understand why everyone cautions about xanax. I only take it when the panic gets bad ( as in I am hyperventilating and jumping out of my skin) Through the years I have occassionaly taken xanax to help me sleep only because I did not want to take the sleep meds The Dr suggested. I admit to having a bit of a pill phobia. In recent years I have had some scripts that caused adverse reactions so, I stick to meds that I know how I react to. I do want to learn as much as I can about the natural alternatives available for anxiety relief as well as all that will help me to get off Lex for good, but for now I am going to focus on getting stablized. I will go ahead and start the fish oil. My husband takes it everyday and we have 5 bottles on hand, not sure what brand it is. (my hubby is a supplement junkie  ) I think I am going to have to start back on Nexium again as well. Nicotine is the bane of my existence and one tough addiction. It stimulates and makes my symptoms worse yet, I light up anyway  . I have read up on chantax and know some people who quit smoking successfuly with that, I dont think it would be a good idea for me to try it at this time though. I have cut back but it is a struggle. I look forward to a day when I can be off the RX drugs. I will keep you posted, and thanks again truly...Erin | 
11-26-2007, 06:09 PM
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| | SSRI 's with least side effects This question is for all.
I am aware that many members here have done extensive research on Lexapro. I am wondering if anyone has researched any of the other SSRI's? also if anyone has any opinions on which ones have the least side effects? This is info I may need. Not sure I can stabilize on lex, I may have to switch if the acid reflux gets unbearable again. After starting back on Lex this afternoon I am already having fullfledged esophogeal reflux, Starting Nexium again now. Before I quit the Lex it had gotten bad enough that the Nexium wasnt realy helping. This is all so very frustrating. D*mned if you do, d*mned if you dont! I am done complaining now. I gotta go cook dinner for the kids and make myself eat some. Erin... | 
11-26-2007, 07:18 PM
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| | Erin, I'm glad you are reinstating...(if I understand your posts)...but please don't change something else....just take your current dose of LEx. and begin to taper slowly! (read past posts about tapering) Don't add a new ssi to the mix!
There is no quick fix Erin, you are going to be sick. And suffer. I'm sorry, thats just how this drug is. Thats why there are sites like this one...
Just try to get at a dose that makes you the least miserable and stay there (on that dose) for at least 3 weeks. Then taper a bit, like 5% and stay there for 3 more weeks, etc. etc.
I'm so sorry about the reflux. I hope your stomach calms down. Stay away from caffine, soda, and spicy foods! (also tomatoes/tomatoe sauce).They can make it worse.
Good Luck and may God give you the grace to go through this Erin. ohwell. | 
11-26-2007, 07:29 PM
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| | step of faith I have a swollen gland on the left side under my jaw area. It hurts at times. I am a lymphoma survivor (almost 2 years now) so I know about glands bothering the human body! uggh...
I do believe you should tell your dr. asap you want to be tested for any possible thryoid problems. Tell of your family history and about your concern of the lump. Also be sure to remind him you were/are on Lexapro, as it can cause thryoid problems.... Yes the thyroid is in that general area. (I also have hypothryodism) (for 1 year now)... But the thyroid is located at the base of the neck, right above the coller bone , in front of your neck...and fans out like a butterfly. So where you are feeling something would be a little high. (unless your thryoid is very swollen)...even then, I'm not sure. I have a little baby lump on the front of my adams apple as well. I am going to get it checked out asap. Its been there for a few months...I hope its nothing.... Are you off Lex...or still tapering...I can't remember, there are so many new folks lately! God Bless you....ohwell. | 
11-26-2007, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by erinkj This question is for all.
I am aware that many members here have done extensive research on Lexapro. I am wondering if anyone has researched any of the other SSRI's? also if anyone has any opinions on which ones have the least side effects? This is info I may need. Not sure I can stabilize on lex, I may have to switch if the acid reflux gets unbearable again. After starting back on Lex this afternoon I am already having fullfledged esophogeal reflux, Starting Nexium again now. Before I quit the Lex it had gotten bad enough that the Nexium wasnt realy helping. This is all so very frustrating. D*mned if you do, d*mned if you dont! I am done complaining now. I gotta go cook dinner for the kids and make myself eat some. Erin... | Hey Erin,
My experience with SSRI is that they seem to differ from people to people.. and from type to type. I for myself am not sure, but I may have experience better compatibility with Celexa than Lex. Celexa is the old Lex, from the same compagny. Certain people have confirm this... and I know the doctors are switching you from one to the other no ^problem... You could ask your doctor and see... The dose of the Celexa is double the one of the Lex for same effect...
Now I have a question for everyone... I'm wondering if this is a withdrawl symptom, but would you agree that Shrek the Third is the best of the three and is VERY funny? I just watched it and got an asthma attack from laughing...
God bless | 
11-26-2007, 07:58 PM
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| | erin I have had bad times with acid reflux (or GERD) in the past, and have had some experience with Lexapro, Welbutrin, and most recently Effexor. In my case, the reflux occurred when I have overindulged with coffee and spicy foods - especially when I have taken too much Ibuprofen and cold meds. Currently I have cut out the coffee altogether and have begun OTC Prilosec daily for 14 days, with Mylanta as needed when my stomach acid seems to worsen. I am a medical assisant, and I know physicians say when one is tapering off a SSRI to not complicate matters by beginning another SSRI.
(this is advice from Ohwells friend who is over)! med. ass. Opinion only | 
11-26-2007, 08:13 PM
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| | Hi all,
Just to say that when I used the disolve in juice method to tapper off, I noticed something. There ia a lot of deposit left from the shaking and disolving, so I advice to stir right before grabbing the few milliliters with a seringe. If not you are bound to leave more Lex than you wanted in the mix... the residue being in high concentration at the bottom of the recipient.
Regards | 
11-26-2007, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohwell I have had bad times with acid reflux (or GERD) in the past, and have had some experience with Lexapro, Welbutrin, and most recently Effexor. In my case, the reflux occurred when I have overindulged with coffee and spicy foods - especially when I have taken too much Ibuprofen and cold meds. Currently I have cut out the coffee altogether and have begun OTC Prilosec daily for 14 days, with Mylanta as needed when my stomach acid seems to worsen. I am a medical assisant, and I know physicians say when one is tapering off a SSRI to not complicate matters by beginning another SSRI.
(this is advice from Ohwells friend who is over)! med. ass. Opinion only | I want to share my experience on acid reflux. When I stopped smoking 6 years ago, I gained 60 pounds. That was from eating sugar like only a compulsive AA member can do (I'm one of the best). Along with weight, came acid reflux, tryglicerides (sugar cholesterol) and blured vision, turns out they were all sugar related. Now I know with SSRIs we tend to indulge in sugar. What saved me was a diet called ''Carbohydrate addict's diet'' from Drs Weller & Weller... They made extensive research with some breakthrought on the pancreas functions. I used the diet and lost 60 pounds in 12 months... no suffering. Vision came back in a week or so into the diet, and reflux left in about the same time. Last tests showed no tryglicerides problem, nor regular cholesterol (I had a problem with this for mutch longer actually, about 12 years). I'd say that along with AA, this was my lifetime discovery to fix some of my worst problems. | 
11-26-2007, 08:43 PM
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| | Hi again,
Also want to share my nest project on myself. This to me is my biggest hope in ever to have to deal with axiety, pannick attacks and depression again... Promissing hun?
No drugs involved. It's a form of therapy. I'm sure you've heard by now of Cognitive therapy. This would be the latest version... from a man called Jeffrey E. Young. It's called Schema therapy. The ''no brainer all you need to know'' book I guess would be ''Reinventing your life'' from that author.
I had a friend one year ago who was diagnosed ''borderline''. She got eavilly medicated by many docs and wouldn't know what to do anymore. She by chance ran into this new psychologist who introduced her to this method... She left the meds.,.. frankly, I don't know of the outcome because I was better off not being around this girl for my own sake... But reading the book now (having more time to do so), I can tell that this is going to be a winner in making me a lot more functionnal in the future. You don't need a therapist really, if you have enought self awareness to do the exercises properly... that's always a tought call, but hey, I guess if it's not working, you can get some help from a therapist later... Right now, I prefer to go in my own speed as therapists tend to take too mutch time to my liking, just to understand and make a diagnosis, let alone a course of action (my experience anyway).
Another thing that I like about the method, is that it doesn't fall in the trap of diagnosis actually. It doesn't care if your bipolar, Istrionick, Narcisist or all that... It starts from your life, and work from there... eliminating errors margin due to false diagnosis. Note that my friend's diagnosis of borderline, was rejested by two experts on five!.. You know...
God bless | 
11-26-2007, 09:02 PM
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| | OHWELL: sorry so lengthy Quote:
Originally Posted by Ohwell I have had bad times with acid reflux (or GERD) in the past, and have had some experience with Lexapro, Welbutrin, and most recently Effexor. In my case, the reflux occurred when I have overindulged with coffee and spicy foods - especially when I have taken too much Ibuprofen and cold meds. Currently I have cut out the coffee altogether and have begun OTC Prilosec daily for 14 days, with Mylanta as needed when my stomach acid seems to worsen. I am a medical assisant, and I know physicians say when one is tapering off a SSRI to not complicate matters by beginning another SSRI.
(this is advice from Ohwells friend who is over)! med. ass. Opinion only | GERD does run in my family. Mom had a hiatal hernia, 8 peptic ulcers, erosive esophogitis and now barretts esophogus disease. She also has irritable bowl and colon polyps. POOR MOM. I had problems with GERD prior to the onset of panic/anxiety 11 yrs ago. treated short term with prevacid, then it was gone. I have had a few small flare ups since then all treatable with antacids and not severe. My first round of LEx 20mg for a year was 3 yrs ago, reflux began within the first week and I was put on Nexium. Tried to go off the Nexium 4 months into treatment and the reflux was back in 2 days. so, began Nexium again for the duration of Lex treatment. After 1yr on Lex I lost my insurance and coulnt affford the Lex at$72 per month. Dr switched me to Citalopram ( generic for celexa which is the drug Lex was developed from) 40mg which equals 20mg of Lex. I could afford that drug because it was only $ 16 per month. For the ensuing 3 yrs that I was on Citalopram I rarely had any reflux and rolaids worked great. In August (I think) I was put back on Lex and the reflux was back in the first week and kept getting worse. We tried Prilosec, Prevacid,Protonix none worked, then Nexium which helped alot. In September I had a gastroscopy which showed some irritation of the duadenal valve and a peptic ulcer. Continued Nexium. When I started the taper off of Lex, the reflux eased. The day after my last dose I did not take my Nexium and had no probs until today 2 hrs after I took the Lex. This all leeds me to believe that The LEx and reflux are monogamous bed buddies. I do not take:Asprin or Ibuprofen for any reason. I avoid onions and spicy foods like the plague and rarely if ever drink caffinated coffee. ( Caffiene makes me tweeky) The reflux probs are the only reason why I would consider switching back to celexa instead of staying on the Lex to stabilize. Does this make any sence? I wont switch unless Dr advises and only if reflux gets worse. I am frightened of ending up like my mom with multiple surgeries to repair all the damage acid reflux did to her. I am probobly putting the cart before the horse here. I just took the Lex again for the first time today so, it could just be all the stress from the withdrawls etc. I ordered copies of all my medical files so that I can better research/remember my med history, maybe I will find some answers there. Thanks alot for looking out for me. Please dont think I am being argumentative about any of this; I only wanted you to know why I thought Lex was the culprit. I do thank you truly, your suggestions have all been very good as well as kind. I hope that you are feeling better also. Erin.... | 
11-26-2007, 09:02 PM
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| | archer.... The one thing I know is that Looking to our creator also helps greatly for comfort. I am a born again Christian and its great to have that hope of heaven on the horizon. IT is one thing that gives me calm knowing God is in control, no me. (hope this isn't too personal, but I believe its something to consider if one is searching)...A good bible study is worth its weight in gold!
ohwell. | 
11-26-2007, 09:07 PM
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| | Erin, Good luck to you....the last reply about the reflux was from my best friend who was over eating a brownie with me. I ask her to reply to you as she has much experience dealing with the reflux. (and has been on ssi's in the past) she is very intelligent as well. I would listen to whatever she suggested!
I personally hope you decide not to add/change any ssi whatsoever...it may just complicate things. And many dr's don't even admit there ARE withdrawals....ohwell. | 
11-26-2007, 09:16 PM
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| | archer_bach Quote:
Originally Posted by archer_bach Hey Erin,
My experience with SSRI is that they seem to differ from people to people.. and from type to type. I for myself am not sure, but I may have experience better compatibility with Celexa than Lex. Celexa is the old Lex, from the same compagny. Certain people have confirm this... and I know the doctors are switching you from one to the other no ^problem... You could ask your doctor and see... The dose of the Celexa is double the one of the Lex for same effect...
Now I have a question for everyone... I'm wondering if this is a withdrawl symptom, but would you agree that Shrek the Third is the best of the three and is VERY funny? I just watched it and got an asthma attack from laughing...
God bless | I feel that I was also far more compatible with Celexa than LEX. I took the generic form of Clexa (Citalopram). I had fewer side effects with it. My probs with Celexa were fatigue,slightly numbed emotions and low libido. with Lex I have NO libido. I have not seen shrek 3 yet but, my 5 yr old nephew told me yesterday " aunt neenee, you gotta see shrek 3; its spankin good funny" Now, that made me laugh! The most important thing is that you are LAUGHING!! Kuddos to you Erin... | 
11-26-2007, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohwell Good luck to you....the last reply about the reflux was from my best friend who was over eating a brownie with me. I ask her to reply to you as she has much experience dealing with the reflux. (and has been on ssi's in the past) she is very intelligent as well. I would listen to whatever she suggested!
I personally hope you decide not to add/change any ssi whatsoever...it may just complicate things. And many dr's don't even admit there ARE withdrawals....ohwell. | Your friend is absolutely correct and I agree with her. I will under no circumstances ADD an SSRI or any others to my mix. My ultimate goal in all of this is to be on no RX meds at all. I will only consider switching to a different med if I get worse and even then I would only be willing to take what agreed with me before. (CELEXA) The last thing I want or need at this point is adverse reactions. I did start the fish oil today but, I have talked myself out of starting any other supplements; at least until I am feeling better. So to update as of today: back on Lex 10mg, multivitamin, fish oil, xanax 0.5 ( only as needed) and Nexium. Even though going off of the Lex was destroying my sanity, I still felt proud that I was only taking one RX. Thanks agin...brownies sound awesome right now! | 
11-26-2007, 09:52 PM
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| | erinkj Quote:
Originally Posted by erinkj This question is for all.
I am aware that many members here have done extensive research on Lexapro. I am wondering if anyone has researched any of the other SSRI's? also if anyone has any opinions on which ones have the least side effects? This is info I may need. Not sure I can stabilize on lex, I may have to switch if the acid reflux gets unbearable again. After starting back on Lex this afternoon I am already having fullfledged esophogeal reflux, Starting Nexium again now. Before I quit the Lex it had gotten bad enough that the Nexium wasnt realy helping. This is all so very frustrating. D*mned if you do, d*mned if you dont! I am done complaining now. I gotta go cook dinner for the kids and make myself eat some. Erin... | Aunty was mentioning Remeron. If you want to research her postings, it's one of the latest ones.
However I heard that switching Lex to another drug gets you into 2 problems at the same time: withdrawals from Lex and getting your brain used to another SSRI. You weigh all options for yourself.
Maybe reflux is worth suffering than adding another drug into the mix??
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11-26-2007, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by archer_bach Hi all,
Just to say that when I used the disolve in juice method to tapper off, I noticed something. There ia a lot of deposit left from the shaking and disolving, so I advice to stir right before grabbing the few milliliters with a seringe. If not you are bound to leave more Lex than you wanted in the mix... the residue being in high concentration at the bottom of the recipient.
Regards | I hope you are not using the solution for the next days, please discard what stays from your solution! If you need 5 mg, let's say , and you've got 10 mg of liquid, take 5, and discard the rest 5. It's no good to use more than once! | 
11-26-2007, 10:11 PM
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| | Stepoffaith,Just my opinion,I would not do the every other day thing.That is why your coster is going bazerk.10 every other day would to me be much better taken at 5 every day.  Cut the ten in half or 1/4 a 20.You dont have to be exact although it would be better.Consistancy is the key I read here in this forum. 
I can relate to the overwhelming of feelings.For me that may have been part of the need for the 12 yrs of ssri.I suppressed the feelings and with SSRI'S I had no feelings.
The information and shared knowlege and availabilty of supplements and such were not nearly as available as they are today. | 
11-26-2007, 10:18 PM
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| | Stop any sugars,coffee or junk food.Easy to say,kinda hard to do but try,They compound the withdrawls and drain the body of strength. | 
11-26-2007, 10:28 PM
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| | Julia 77 Quote:
Originally Posted by Julia77 Aunty was mentioning Remeron. If you want to research her postings, it's one of the latest ones.
However I heard that switching Lex to another drug gets you into 2 problems at the same time: withdrawals from Lex and getting your brain used to another SSRI. You weigh all options for yourself.
Maybe reflux is worth suffering than adding another drug into the mix?? | I did see that somewhere. I will read up on that. I have been running several side by side comparisons of Lex and Celexa as well. Celexa comes off as the lesser of 2 evils. I have been wondering if I would realy have any probs going from lex to celexa though. 1. they have a very close chemicle composition. 2. I was on Celexa much longer than Lex with fewer side effects and 3.Celexa appears to have a lower instance of (severe) withdrawl/discontinuation difficulties. I may at some point change my SSRI ( LEX kills me as it does everyone else) if I cannot stabilize on the LEX. I will not add any meds ever. I would only consider a switch. For now I am just going to have to wait and see how it goes. You know how hard it is. I also dont want to make any decisions while I am feeling this manic. Have a good night. I hope everyone can sleep tonight, get some zzz's for me. Erin... | 
11-26-2007, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Julia77 I hope you are not using the solution for the next days, please discard what stays from your solution! If you need 5 mg, let's say , and you've got 10 mg of liquid, take 5, and discard the rest 5. It's no good to use more than once! | Hey Julia...
Yes I did discard... I don't know if my post makes any sense knowing this...
What I did was mix the full 20 mg tablet in 40 ml of mix total (juice and tablet)
Then removed 4 ml from mix (10%). then of course discarded the 4 ml, and drank the rest (18 mg of Lex). But tomorrow, I will stir right before removing... | 
11-26-2007, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by erinkj I did see that somewhere. I will read up on that. I have been running several side by side comparisons of Lex and Celexa as well. Celexa comes off as the lesser of 2 evils. I have been wondering if I would realy have any probs going from lex to celexa though. 1. they have a very close chemicle composition. 2. I was on Celexa much longer than Lex with fewer side effects and 3.Celexa appears to have a lower instance of (severe) withdrawl/discontinuation difficulties. I may at some point change my SSRI ( LEX kills me as it does everyone else) if I cannot stabilize on the LEX. I will not add any meds ever. I would only consider a switch. For now I am just going to have to wait and see how it goes. You know how hard it is. I also dont want to make any decisions while I am feeling this manic. Have a good night. I hope everyone can sleep tonight, get some zzz's for me. Erin... |
Hi, I will mention thought that I did switch from Luvox Celexa without problems... and then from Celexa to Lex with no apparent problem except mabe the fact that Lex is a more complicated harder drug... I don't feel it was as soft as Celexa, with more libido and numbering effect... but it is hard to say with all that was going on at that time... | 
11-26-2007, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohwell The one thing I know is that Looking to our creator also helps greatly for comfort. I am a born again Christian and its great to have that hope of heaven on the horizon. IT is one thing that gives me calm knowing God is in control, no me. (hope this isn't too personal, but I believe its something to consider if one is searching)...A good bible study is worth its weight in gold!
ohwell. | Ohwell darling,
I know where you're comming from. In AA we mention that there is little chance of recovery without putting God in your life. Faith is an exercise and I had to relate to that and get better at it to ease some of the pain my personnality was causing me, and external factors as I witnessed in hundreds of shares since 11 years. Throught my recent withdrawl and trying out Welbutrin, in the same time of having just been fired from my job... I was on my knees every day. I asked God to help me make it clear on the decision I had to make in order to stop the Wb... and many many other instances in my life where anxiety and dispair was knocking at my door... with the best results ever. One funny thing, (since we're kind of finding all kinds of problkems with Lex here) is that I felt it was harder to keep my internal faith and contact with God when I was on that stuff... I even relapsed.. Makes sense since the numbing effect was altering my emotions and those emotions were key players in my ability or in the thought patern necessary to feel close to God, and confident in His power... feer is the oposite of faith... but when there's no fear from a drug... do you need faith? Not as mutch. Or at least you don't feel the need right?
Anywho... God is my Father... and he loves me and I can always count on Him. But here's the serenity prayer... Serenity to accept the thing I cannot change (my present personnality, withdrawl from Lex for a certain time), courage to change the things I can (get informed, make the decisions, get therapy), and wisdom to know the difference?... that's a work in progress..
God bless you child... and all of us
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11-26-2007, 11:38 PM
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| | archer Quote:
Originally Posted by archer_bach Hey Julia...
Yes I did discard... I don't know if my post makes any sense knowing this...
What I did was mix the full 20 mg tablet in 40 ml of mix total (juice and tablet)
Then removed 4 ml from mix (10%). then of course discarded the 4 ml, and drank the rest (18 mg of Lex). But tomorrow, I will stir right before removing... | Not sure if you are using a mortar and pestle to crush the tablet and mix with the liquid. This actually incorporates any residue into the liquid. http://www.cooking.com/products/shpr...Band%2Bpedstle | 
11-26-2007, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by archer_bach Hi, I will mention thought that I did switch from Luvox Celexa without problems... and then from Celexa to Lex with no apparent problem except mabe the fact that Lex is a more complicated harder drug... I don't feel it was as soft as Celexa, with more libido and numbering effect... but it is hard to say with all that was going on at that time... | I have known people that have switched from celexa to lexapro and back with little problems. Celexa is the mider of the two.................... but if you are tapering off lexapro, remember that you will need to double your dose of celexa as lexapro is twice as strong and more selecive at uptaking serotonin. I don't think celexa comes in liquid form, so tapering will have to be done by crushing the medication into juice. The first two weeks of the switch you may have a period of strong withdrawals. Let us know how you do if you switch. The two drugs have mirror image compositions but lexapro is twice as strong and in twice as selective.
I am not a doctor so please research on the internet or check with your physician.
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11-27-2007, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Ohwell I have a swollen gland on the left side under my jaw area. It hurts at times. I am a lymphoma survivor (almost 2 years now) so I know about glands bothering the human body! uggh...
I do believe you should tell your dr. asap you want to be tested for any possible thryoid problems. Tell of your family history and about your concern of the lump. Also be sure to remind him you were/are on Lexapro, as it can cause thryoid problems.... Yes the thyroid is in that general area. (I also have hypothryodism) (for 1 year now)... But the thyroid is located at the base of the neck, right above the coller bone , in front of your neck...and fans out like a butterfly. So where you are feeling something would be a little high. (unless your thryoid is very swollen)...even then, I'm not sure. I have a little baby lump on the front of my adams apple as well. I am going to get it checked out asap. Its been there for a few months...I hope its nothing.... Are you off Lex...or still tapering...I can't remember, there are so many new folks lately! God Bless you....ohwell. | I've been off for about 3.5 weeks. I decided to go back on to taper slower. I took 10mg last night and the silly thing is I feel guilty. At the time I took it, I was in a moment of clarity spell. I hate the ups and downs because when I feel normal I have this false sense that the sadness and mood swings won't come back.
I am going to have my thyroid tested when I see my doc in few weeks. I am not a patient person and I wish I could do it today. I woke up this morning with a bit of a lump in the back of my throat when I swallow - this is all freaking me out a bit too much. I'm becoming incredibly paranoid about every little symptom. My brother in law is also a three year survivor of lymphoma - God speed to you ohwell. | 
11-27-2007, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Julia77 Hey Chris,
Well I know what you are talking about. What you are getting now is most probably brain zaps. I am not sure those meds cause brain injuries, but they do cause you be convinced that you have one.
Start to take fish oil. It really helps with the head jolts. Carlson's brand is the best.
They go away. With me they were like hell and every time I had one it was like passing out. And they went away, too. | Thanks for the tips Julia77. I've been taking omega 3's for several months now along with CoQ10 and magnesium malate (not so much now). However, those head pains I had were not brain zaps...I went through Lex withdrawal once before and had them...this was different. | 
11-27-2007, 03:49 PM
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I started slow tapper two days ago (-10%) from 20mg Lex. I'm experiencing debilitating dizzyness and nausea. Do you think I should go up 5% for now, or should I wait it off? If I wait it off, how long can I expect this to last...
Just asking for your personnal experiences and readings...
Kind regards | 
11-27-2007, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by archer_bach Hi all,
I started slow tapper two days ago (-10%) from 20mg Lex. I'm experiencing debilitating dizzyness and nausea. Do you think I should go up 5% for now, or should I wait it off? If I wait it off, how long can I expect this to last...
Just asking for your personnal experiences and readings...
Kind regards | The withdrawals should start to appear about the fourth day and last about a week to ten days. ( Then give yourself a week to recuperate).
You may be one, as my daughter that cannot taper 10%. It is usually those that have been on 20 Mg of lexapro for more then six months. My daughter can only taper 2 to 3 %. I would suggest that you reinstate 5% and wait three weeks using 5 % taper and see if you feel better. If 5% is too much lower the taper to what you can handle. There is no set rule to the %, use your body as a guide. So take 19 mL FOR THE NEXT 3 WEEKS AND SEE HOW YOU FEEL.
I am NOT a doctor so please research any suggestions given. with your physician
aunty |  | | |