[Princess369]

i was started on 10 mg lexapro for two months followed by two months of 20 mg. since going to 20 mg, I have had the following side effects:

hairloss- I mean handsful daily


anorgasmia- no way no how no matter how much you want an orgasm can you have one

tremors

increased anxiety

bad dreams , really bizarre dreams

panic attacks increasing

shoulder and neck pain

restless legs at night suddenly

blurry vision

did i mention no orgasms? o my god i cant live without that!

my plan is to withdraw 5 mg at a time, 3 weeks duration, until im finally off of it.

interestingly, they had had me on neurontin for a while in the beginning to " decrease my anxiety". It made me a zombie, no expression, no feelings, no emotions, absence seizures, and double vision;so i had them remove that drug from my regimen as well.

[Princess369]

I suffer from post traumatic stress disorder w/ panic disorder. I find klonopin to be most effective for me, however, my general physician and my psychiatrist do not agree on dosage. I was at my best functioning on 4 mg 4 x daily per my general MD. My psychiatrist had a kitten when he found out the dosage I was on and over time, has decreased me to 1 mg four times daily which quite frankly does squat for panic attacks. I have them much more frequently now, and they are more intense. The psychiatrist put me on visteril 100 mg twice daily as an as needed basis- doesnt do a thing for me. I know in my head that a panic attack is based on chemical release in the body without a stimulus necessarily, but to ride them out is torturous sometimes.
Has anyone else had similar issues?

[bdoon51]

I was prescribed Lexapro 10 mg prior to some surgeries. I took it a couple of months but post surgery someone told me it reduced the effect of pain killers so I stopped taking it. My physician got angry with me. I recently started taking it again after some severe anxiety panic attacks. It has really helped me alot. Unfortunately some other doctor prescribed Ultram for me and I found out you should never take Ultram and Lexapro. So I stopped with the Ultram. A few years ago I took Celexa for almost a year...it helped me alot. I just stopped taking it and was ok.

[Retrofan70]

Hi, I have really enjoyed reading everyone's posts. They have been very informative. My son was recently prescribed Lexapro 10mg. I started him on it two weeks ago, and am already wanting to get him off of the drug. Would anyone still recommend the slow tapering process for a 14 year old who has only been taking it for two weeks? Thank you all, Cheryl

[auntybiotic]

Hi,

You may just want to stop giving him the lexapro. Wait a three days to a week and if you begin to see the withdrawals..................then you will need to do a slow taper. Hopefully you may not need to taper him..............but with many there is still withdrawals even afer a few days. No one can say for sure.

If you begin to see rages, crying, anxiety, inability to sleep........then you will need to slowly taper him.

Good Lick.

[IdahoTater]

I don't even know if I'm posting in the right place....so forgive me if I'm not. I am a 62 year old grandmother. I've been on anti-depressants for many years. The last two being Celexa and now Lexapro. I've been tapering off the Lexapro for MONTHS now. I am down to 2.5 mg every other day now. I'm not sure how to cut the pills any smaller, so my question is, can I just start skipping two days between pills, or what? I actually slept last night! ( I'm sure some of you understand how wonderful that is) But, having said that, yesterday I was experiencing anger and frustration and was VERY irritable, from not sleeping the night before. (sigh) I haven't had the "zaps"/"jolts" for some time now, but have had some anxiety and felt like my heart was beating too fast. I normally do not use curse words, but lately, I could make a sailor blush. I have forgotten what it means to be "me". I'm scared of getting off the Lexapro, because of the withdrawals, and yet I feel it's time. I'm sorry for the rambling....I guess I really did need to talk.

Lynn

[auntybiotic]

I would not stop at 2.5...............you will have horrible withdrawals. Read Tavee's posts and see what a taper from 2.2 to 2 did withdrawal wise.

What doese of lexapro were you on? How many years were you taking the lexapro. When you tell me the dose 5, 10 or 20 MG of lexapro............I will instruct you on a easy method to mix the lexapro tablet with cranberry juice and how to taper using a BP syringe available for free at your pharmacy for asking. Ask the pharmacist directly and explain that you are tapering off of lexapro and have to be precise so you cannot use the medicine droppers that can be purchased.

How did you taper down to 2.5.....over what time period and so far what has your withdrawal experience been. How long are you waiting in between tapers, weeks?

On the previous page you can read my post on liquid conversion from Lexapro tablets. Lexapro is also available in a liquid form.

Good Luck

[wherethehellami?]

Does anyone know if there are phases to the withdrawal? I'm into week 7 cutting from 20mg to 10mg and I still do not feel like "myself." I know that's hard to quantify, especially when you are on a drug, but I'm tired of this ********************. I do not feel real joy or sadness, just apathy and nothingness. Sometimes I just want to get back to where I was. I've taken the last couple of days off from running and I'm trying to let my body recover. I know I should just stay on the 10mg and let myself stabalize but it sucks not knowing when the light is at the end of the tunnel. Sorry guys I'm just ********************ing frustrated with this ********************.

-Chris

[IdahoTater]

I have been tapering off for several months now. Went from 10mg to 5mg over a period of weeks. I was on the 2.5mg for several months, and then went to 2.5mg every other day, and have been doing that for several weeks now. I just started skipping two days in between last week. Some days seem 'ok'. Some days, I'm REALLY irritable. I don't sleep well, but part of it is leg pain, so not sure how much is related to the Lex. My problem now is....I go to a free clinic, and they do not carry Lexapro any longer. I have several sample packs left, so when that's gone.....not sure what I will do. I just feel so helpless and so angry that this is happening. I just want to be "normal" again.

[skyer]

ElizabethMaria: I'm physically better, too, but I also wonder about my brain. I just don't feel like myself. I feel so "out to lunch" and I don't know where my motivation is -- I just feel apathetic. The good news is that I haven't had any really bad spells of depression or anxiety for a long time now; I just feel blah. We just have to know that we are still healing -- even if we can't tell because it happens so slow. It's really important for me to protect my nervous system right now because it feels so fragile. I got a call back from an email I sent to a very well-known doctor who is regarded as one of the top experts when it comes to SSRI adverse reactions. I was so shocked when he called just about 30 minutes after I sent the email that I broke out into hives while talking to him! I've never had that happen in my life. He didn't tell me anything I don't know already, but it was nice to validation from a medical doctor. He said the worst case he had was a woman who took Paxil for 10 days and ended up in bed for one year...and then she improved from there.

How are your seizures these days? What other symptoms do you have?

[elizabethmaria]

Hi Skyer,
Thank you for your update - Have been thinking about you a lot, - it is good to know that you're feeling better, but I know how out to lunch is.. I think I'm always out to lunch, or dinner, or somewhere - that is so frustrating, do you have any idea how long that will last?.. How is your nervous system feel when you say fragile? Between seizures, or if I don't have any that day, I feel 'wobbly' -- that's the best way I can describe right now - just shaky/wobbly in my head, in actions, etc. and difficulty concentrating... also have difficulty finishing thoughts, they seem to be fragmented and can't finish the thought -- or don't remember what it was in the first place, so another pops in... that is a really really hard symptom.... can't make very much sense of my own thinking.. ! ah drives me nutty...! I have had no seizures the past two days though, and none yet today!!!! so that is really awesome!!!!!... but before that was having like 5 major ones daily, so don't know what the difference is..

What doctor did you speak to??? That is so great that you found validation from a medical doctor.. like a dream come true!!

sorry for the fragmented email, but so good to hear from you - we're hanging in there!
Take care Skyer, and everyone
Elizabethmarie

[Hairyarmadillo]

3 weeks and 2 days off Lexapro and am ok as far as brain zaps which I feared and am not having any depression or anger times. The students are in that "end of the year" behavior decline so I have had plenty of opportunities for agitation to trigger a mood swing, but all is well. Only reasonable feelings of aggravation and am able to control the moods. Have also been in situations that could make me go into a spell of depression but again, so far so good. Still waiting for the other shoe since i did the big no-no drop of 2.5 to 0 mg but I guess I will be looking over my shoulder for awhile. Does anyone know when the "it's definitely over" period is? I swear, after this, I think I will always be looking over my shoulder waiting for brain zaps. There is still some slight depersonalization that happens and I noticed it after I skipped several days of Noni juice. so I am willing to add more endorsement to the use of that Before I was only assuming it helped but since I went without, had the symptoms, took it again and things got better-it has to be the juice.
My main concern at this point is my mind. I cannot remember anything. Yesterday was the worst. I will be so glad when summer break gets here and I can "shut down" for a few days. Are you all certain that my memory will improve? This has to be what a mild stroke victim feels like-I sometimes take forever to find the words I need to make a sentence. There is the website I have been using to research professional journals. Didn't bookmark it and now I cannot remember it. I used it regularly even up to sometime last week. I can't recall it now. THAT made me feel frustrated and like crying yesterday but even that I am handling.

I am reading all your posts and praying for everyone. Will post more when I can string together something that makes sense. Everyone, just trust me it does get better, even though it is a pain in the @-- getting to normal. We all will get there.
Oh, don't want to keep repeating about sex, but even that gets back to normal

[drugbuster]

... you should be out of the "danger zone". There shouldn't be anything major about to happen.

And now that you're drug free, write to www.truehope.com and ask about EmpowerPlus.

No. I've never tried the stuff... no, I don't sell it nor do I receive any money from them.

One of my friends tried it and she loves it.

It works for her and there's a lot of testimonials from others on the website.


Tim

prozackills2002@yahoo.ca

[drugbuster]

"I got a call back from an email I sent to a very well-known doctor who is regarded as one of the top experts when it comes to SSRI adverse reactions. He said the worst case he had was a woman who took Paxil for 10 days and ended up in bed for one year...and then she improved from there. "


Dear skyer,

If your doctor's worst "adverse reaction" to Paxil is one year in bed... Please tell your doctor to "google" Donald Schell.

After just 2 tablets of Paxil, Mr. Schell murdered his wife, daughter anf granddaughter and then killed himself.

The surviving son in law sued GSK, the makers of Paxil and won a jury award of $8 MILLION !!

GSK did not appeal and just paid up.

There are over 1200 stories of murder and mayhem involving SSRI and SNRI antidepressants on the website... www.SSRIStories.com


Tim

prozackills2002@yahoo.ca


Every 5 minutes an American is killed by an FDA approved prescription drug.

[Jeanet1te]

So as most of you know I was on Lexapro for about 6 months. Four weeks ago I decided it was time to come off...so I went to the doc. I was on 10mg and doc told me to just stop cold turkey. She said the dose was small enough that it wouldnt hurt me. Well, I know my body fairly well and decided to wean instead of stopping cold turkey. I did 5 mg then stopped.

I began having vertigo to the point that I couldnt drive, ride in a car or even bend over to pick up my daughter. Then i began having a sour stomach and HORRIBLE indigestion accompanied with muscle tightness, swelling in hands and feet, headaches, nausea, and terrible fatigue. Not to mention the brain fog and heart racing and jumpiness of insides.

I tried everything. Meclizine and dramamine for motion sickness, stopping other meds, heating pad on muscles, muscle relaxers, gas meds, tums, alleve, pepto, sleep, sleep amd a lot more sleep. 3 days without being in a vehicle AT ALL. excercises to minimize vertigo, wearing my reading glasses in case it was eye strain...you name it...I tried it and then...

--I HAD HAD ENOUGH! I thought I was losing my mind--i even took a pregnancy test.

Then 2 days ago I googles "coming off lexapro" and BAM! I found this bulletin board



I had my answer! I Wasnt making it up! I wasnt just lazy. NO ONE EVEN TOLD ME THAT LEXAPRO WAS ADDICTIVE! I was told it was no big deal to quit! THAT WAS A LIE! I was miserable and felt like it would never end.

I immediately called everone i knew that had listened to me whine for the past 3 weeks and told them i figured out what it was...then right to the vitamin shoppe for ginko biloba, seratonin stimulator, eaters tea to settle stomach and a detox kit and after less than 24 hours I am symptom free. I feel fine again. I feel normal/human again! THANK YOU GOD!

[elfaygobaca]

Originally Posted by Jeanet1te

So as most of you know I was on Lexapro for about 6 months. Four weeks ago I decided it was time to come off...so I went to the doc. I was on 10mg and doc told me to just stop cold turkey. She said the dose was small enough that it wouldnt hurt me. Well, I know my body fairly well and decided to wean instead of stopping cold turkey. I did 5 mg then stopped.

I began having vertigo to the point that I couldnt drive, ride in a car or even bend over to pick up my daughter. Then i began having a sour stomach and HORRIBLE indigestion accompanied with muscle tightness, swelling in hands and feet, headaches, nausea, and terrible fatigue. Not to mention the brain fog and heart racing and jumpiness of insides.

I tried everything. Meclizine and dramamine for motion sickness, stopping other meds, heating pad on muscles, muscle relaxers, gas meds, tums, alleve, pepto, sleep, sleep amd a lot more sleep. 3 days without being in a vehicle AT ALL. excercises to minimize vertigo, wearing my reading glasses in case it was eye strain...you name it...I tried it and then...

--I HAD HAD ENOUGH! I thought I was losing my mind--i even took a pregnancy test.

Then 2 days ago I googles "coming off lexapro" and BAM! I found this bulletin board



I had my answer! I Wasnt making it up! I wasnt just lazy. NO ONE EVEN TOLD ME THAT LEXAPRO WAS ADDICTIVE! I was told it was no big deal to quit! THAT WAS A LIE! I was miserable and felt like it would never end.

I immediately called everone i knew that had listened to me whine for the past 3 weeks and told them i figured out what it was...then right to the vitamin shoppe for ginko biloba, seratonin stimulator, eaters tea to settle stomach and a detox kit and after less than 24 hours I am symptom free. I feel fine again. I feel normal/human again! THANK YOU GOD!

I am so glad you're doing OK!!! As a nurse, I know that side effects were out there, but I've personally never felt any until going off the Lexapro. I also took a pg test....

[auntybiotic]

I am glad that you are feeling better but a word of warning. You should NOT take a serotonin booster or ginko for at least a year after stopping the lexapro due to the chance of developing serotonin syndrome. The p-450 cytochrome system in the liver HAS BEEN "challenged' THRU LEXAPRO USE and therefore OTHER DRUGS OR HERBS using these pathways may cause lexapro remaining in the system to increase.

Your symptoms "went away" because the serotonin booster" is acting on the lexapro that remains in your system so in essence your body is still on the lexapro even though you stopped it three weeks ago..so that is why the "withdrawal" went away. Actually the serotonin booster may even elevate the level of the lexapro that remains in your system.

This may not happen but you could develop serotonin syndrome from the serotonin booster and the lexapro that still remains in the brain and liver.
Symptoms would be clenching muscles, sweating and chills, mania and feelings of euphoria.

Also after only three weeks being off lexapro.......even for those that tapered much more slowly then you did..................there remain some withdrawals that may be a few months down the road and you may think that they are not "withdrawal" but possibly returning of symptoms or some other medical problems not even related to stopping lexapro months prior.

After physical symptoms fade there is a emotional withdrawal that sometimes presents itself with depersonalization, crying and apathy. Others feel well for a few months and then have a bad few days and then feel well again. Layers like the peeling of a onion is sometimes how healing from lexapro use is described.

Lexapro is protein bound and as one may excerise............. lexapro is released and the "withdrawal" symptoms may begin again for a few days. It is suggested by Dr. Tracy that those withdrawaling from Lexapro stay away from eating meats because it just allows the lexapro to bind to the protein and remain in the system that much longer.

Good luck and please keep us posted on how you are feeling. I do not want to appear negative but I have spoken to thousands of lexapro users and have read at least a dozen books or SSRI's and just want to enlighten you to symptoms you may possibly experience. Saint John's Wort is another drug that may seem to "make the withdrawal go away" but again it is just "masking" the withdrawal by providing boosting the serotonin in the system at the same time lexapro still remains bound to protein and in the liver...........this could be VERY dangerous.

[Jeri555]

I was only on Lexapro and Klonopin for 2 months. I was feeling better and hated being on drugs for my depression so I just stopped taking them thinking I hadn't been on them that long. A few days later I started having these hot flashes followed by cold chills every ten minutes or so. I thought menopause had suddenly come on and then thought it might be the withdrawl from the drugs. I've noticed a few people talk about this but not to the degree I'm having them. Plus I've had no other side effects, except being a little tired. Anyone else having similar withdrawl symptoms?

[skyer]

ElizabethMaria: Glad to hear you made it a few days without a seizure! Two steps forward, one step back....as you know. I know my nervous system is fragile because under stress -- even good things like a social gathering -- can cause me to shake and tremble or break out into hives (never happened before this reaction). I'm trying to accept that I'm healing and tell myself it's OK to stay near home till I feel more stable. I try to get out everyday, but don't push myself to do a lot. The emotional withdrawals are awful. It's just so hard when friends and family say they miss me and wonder why I'm "still sick." This just makes no sense to anyone unless you;ve been through it. I have to just not care what others think. I use to always care so much about what others think, but this time it's about me. I can't just "snap out of it" because others are frustrated.

How long has it been for you since your last dose? Are you able to get out? I was pretty shut down and in my home during months 4 and 5. Like you, I've been so scared to even take supplements, but I'm ready for the Fish Oil and Inositol. I'm finally going to the store tomorrow to get it.

I'd prefer to not give the name of the doctor I spoke to on this thread, but if you want to email me at nolexapro@gmail.com I will be happy to tell you...

Thanks for the protein tip, Aunty. I started to eat protein again because I thought it would be good for my adrenals, but I don't want the Lex to stick around any longer if I can help it so I'll go back to veg diet. Sometimes I wonder if the drug is still "active" -- ie. dreams, depersonalization and apathy. I had the first two things while ON the drug and they started at the same time 3 weeks into use. And then I have withdrawal symptoms on top of it............when I got off Paxil before I had classic withdrawal stuff for about 2 or 3 weeks (dizziness, etc.) and then I continued to have dreams and some hormonal changes for about two months after and then I felt like I returned to normal. None of it ever disrupted my life. I almost wonder if the same sort of thing is happening, but to a really harsh and long degree. I think the Lexapro built up in my system. I was only on 10mg Paxil and felt like that was strong for me. It's not a high dose at all....nothing compare to 10mg of Lexapro. Anyway, I have the same sort of dreams and hormonal changes as I did on and after Paxil.....but Paxil never gave me the depersonalization. A friend of mine who likes Lexapro (but wants off after she's seen what happened to me) said she went up to 15mg and got depersonalization. Guess it's just another rotten side effect for some.

Take care.....lots of hugs!!!

[Patience]

Hi Skyer!

That is awesome about your doctor....tell me more in email....

[Hairyarmadillo]

Aunty, I read your warning about summertime foods to avoid but do you know of any other foods that can cause problems? I did not really expect my Lexapro withdrawal to be finished with me, but last night I had a terrible bout of insomnia. My legs were VERY restless and i felt like I had been drinking 1000 cups of expresso. I did manage to sleep for a couple of hours, woke up feeling terrible(ofcourse) and still can't sleep. The wired feeling is starting to subside but not gone. Nothing changed in what I am taking or doing but I did eat some boiled spicy crawfish. I bought them from a seafood shop so I am not sure what type of seasoning was used, but it was such an adverse feeling and extreme that I couldn't help wondering if the food had anything to do with it. I know I can't blame everything on Lexapro but this was way out of the norm.

[Patience]

Hairy....maybe MSG? That makes me wired and yucky feeling....magnesium really helps me when my legs are restless.. I love this powder brand that you drink like tea with hoy water called: Peter Gillham, natural calm. It helps you to relax at night and fall asleep easily.

http://www.ihealthtree.com/natural-c...-vitality.html

[windcave]

Hi. I've been taking lexapro for almost 3 years now. Yes, the panic attacks and part of my anxiety have gone away -- better said suppressed. But I have never felt well enough. The lexapro advertisers would never select me to pose for their brochures -- I would have to fake the smile while riding the bike or hiking. After having cognitive therapy for some months now, I've realized that my anxiety, depression, is behavioral and not caused by chemical imbalance. A few days ago, I told the psychiatrist that I wanted off the medication and he thought it was a bad idea, but still I think the opposite. So I recklessly decided to do it on my own. So I took off the band-aid -- off lexapro for only three days and feel really sick. (By the way, I had been taking 10mg a day.) Can't sleep, have like a buzzing in my ears, tremors, extreme sweating. Think the only thing that has been keeping me afloat is the klonopin - 2mg a day. Yes I also take klonopin and just 6 months ago the psychiatrist started me on wellbutrin xl 150mg a day. So I just don't only want out of the lexapro but the other two as well. But I'll stick to the forum theme...lexapro. Now, after reading all of your helpful postings, I think I better get on the lexapro again and from there stop getting off it gradually...Also after reading some of the posts, well I'm wondering how long will it take to get lexapro off my system once I stop taking it for good -- since I have been on it for so long? Thank you for listening and your help. Hope I can help out as well.

[auntybiotic]

The other foods to stay away from are broccoli as well as grapefruits and spices, many........so i am sure the crawfish spice added to the ill feelings/

Cave,

It will take six months at least, to get the lexapro out of your system once stopped. Everyone is different and diet, supplements and lifestyle play a part in this time frame. I would only try to taper one drug at a time. You r withdrawal should not be as severe since you are on the other meds to buffer the anxiety,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it will be a slow road but you will be glad you did it.

[Hairyarmadillo]

Thanks, Aunty. I guess I am going to miss out on crawfish season this year, but if I can avoid feeling like this, it is worth it.

[windcave]

Thank you so much for your helpful note and support.
I'm looking forward to be lexapro free.
Regards

Windcave

[overtherainbow]

I've been up for 2 and 1/2 hours (2-4:30 in the morning), and having all the time in the world, decided to look up Lexapro withdrawal.

Ureka.

I thought I was going out of my mind. Palpitations (my heart is flip-flopping in my chest - hard to get comfortable, relax, rest), dizziness, insomnia, hot flashes day and night, nervousness, mania. Crazy with a capital K.

I had been on Prozac a number of years ago, and suffered no withdrawal symptoms. If I'd known about the problem with Lexapro, I wouldn't have gone on it.

I've only been on a low dose for 2 years - 5 mg. I've also been on Flexeril too. So trying to get off both after seeing a naturopath. (Lyme disease.)

Trying to do so slowly, not so methodically, however.

The irony is that I work for a pharmaceutical company, and now I am loathe to ever go on a prescription medication or see a doctor again.

What an adventure this is, huh? But I am so glad I am not alone. Yikes !

BIG QUESTION - is this serotonin syndrome ? I just read about that, and that's really scary. [/font]

[auntybiotic]

Very important question, what antibiotics are you taking for lyme disease. YOU cannot take any macrolides such as Biaxin because it will increase the lexapro by possibly 100%. That is the problem my daughter encountered and unfortunately her doctor started her on 20 Mg of lexapro.......what a nightmare!!!!!

Did you cathch the lyme right away? Or have you had it awhile?

Even though you are only on 5 Mg you will still need to slowly taper. The mania and restlessness does sound like serotonin syndrome. What are all the medications that you are taking and how long have you been on Lexapro?

[auntybiotic]

I just looked up Flexeril and you should not be takingi t with the lexapro as they both use the same pathways of the P 450 Cytochrome system. Flexaeril uses CYP 2A4, CYP 1A2 and CYP2 D6. This could increase the levels of the lexapro and cause it to build up in your system causing serotonin syndrome. You may want to ask a Pharmacist,

I would suggest stopping the Flexeril.......this in itself will put you in withdrawal as by not taing it the levels of lexapro will be lowered. Once you are stable, maybe three weeks, you can begin to slowly decrease the lexapro.

[overtherainbow]

Hello Aunty

Thanks for chiming in.

I'm just on Lexapro and Flexeril, prescription-wise. Low doses as I'm very sensitive to meds. Lexapro 5 mg and Flexeril 5 mg (1/2 tab). For about 2 years.

The Lyme was caught right away (bulls eye rash). No antibiotics now - just still dealing with the post-Lyme stuff but that's debatable, huh? Do I still have Lyme, is it post-Lyme, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, immune disorder . . .

I went to see a naturopath, and here's how things can get all topsy turvy. Trying to do too much at once. Although I'm weaning myself off of the Rx's, I was also given to take, at the same time, a homeopathic which has 5-HTP in it, and magnesium malate - both of which are involved with the neurotransmitters. I also have a coenzyme B complex, and some fish oil which I also are involved in the pathway.

So I decreased the new stuff. I'm thinking today I need to get myself off of the Lex & Flex before I do anything new/different.

I don't have any fevers (serotonin syndrome) and that's good but when I first started changing things, I was hot flash central, and I was progressively getting less and less sleep, to not at all. Now my main 'plaint is the thumping heart, dizziness, mania. I say mania 'cause I am up up up.

If I can figure out this is just SSRI withdrawal, I suppose I can deal with that, as most peeps say here, it takes 2 weeks. But I am about to spin right off of this earth into outer space. Yikes ! I say, yikes !

Thanks for your suggestion to dc the Flex first (my sleep aid), and then work on the Lex. I will also call the pharmacist and see what he/she says.

I will also call the naturopath today. He's an okay guy, and he did think I was trying to get myself off the stuff too quickly. He's available to talk to all the time, I had just been feeling a bit timid about talking to him. I will need to get over that.