[tavee]

Hey Everyone!!

Wow I Cant Believe The Newbies That Have Joined. My Goodness!! I Didnt Realize How Many People Are On This Powerful ********************py Drug!!

So I Started 2 Ml On Wed. So We Will See.

Hopeful- What Do U Know About The Drug Naprosyn(naproxen) Anything?? I Have To Take It Every Month For My Period Because The Cramps Are Unbearable. I Wonder If That Is Bad For Me. I Have No Choice Though. I Mean It Doesn't Affect Me But It Sure Does Give Me A Stomach Ache. (i Feel Like Someone Punched Me Right In The Middle Of The Stomach).

Well, I Hope Everything Is Going Well With Everyone. U Guys Have A Great Easter And Take Care Of Ureself. We Will Survive!!!

Love U Guys
Dr Tavee

[tmb]

WOW!!! I cannot believe how many people are suffering. First let me say NEVER let a regular doctor prescribe you a mind altering drug. If you are seeking help for mental problems go see a psychiatrist. They will take your family history and possibly do blood work. And at that point together with the doc you will decide if you need meds or therapy and maybe both. I have been on lexapro for anxiety & depression for about five years. And a couple of times on my own I tried to go off lexapro. And OMG did I have an awful time like so many of you. Well needless to say I never made it very long and started taking it again. The last time I went off lexapro was about two years ago. I thought I really did not need to take the medicine. I told my psychiatrist I wanted to try and get off lexapro. She was very supportive she gave me a prescription for two prozac pills and told me to take one prozac pill tomorrow and skip my lexapro and then on day two take just my lexapro, and then on day three take the prozac and no more lexapro. I suffered NO withdrawal (LET ME SAY THIS AGAIN NO WITHDRAWAL) and managed to stay off my lexapro for TEN months. Unfortunatley I truly suffer from a chemical Imbalance of the brain and my symptoms returned. And therefore decided to go back on lexapro for good. My psychiatrist said this is often heredity and in the past people self medicated with alcohol and illegal drugs. Which would explain the large number of people in my family past that were alcoholics and drug addicts. My opinion is that alot of people get on an antidepressant that do not truly have a chemical imbalance to start with. And that is why they end up with negative results during and long after taking these drugs. That is why it is so important to see a psychiatrist (not a therapist or regular GP) for mental problems. They know these drugs better than anybody. And unfortunately these drugs like so many others have side effects. But for me this drug has saved my life because without it I am sure I would be self medicating with other things that had much worse side effects. I hope this helps some of you with your suffering.

[tavee]

Tmb- Very Interesting Story U Have. Im Sorry U Had To Go On The Drug Again, But Then Again U Had No Option. I Totally Agree With What U Are Saying.
Thank God, Things Are Good With Me. I Was On Lex For 3 Yrs (10mg)and In October I Started Tapering. I Am Now On 2 Ml (liquid) And I Am Ok.
I Am Very Concerned About Once I Am Completely Off It. Ive Heard So Many Stories And It Scares Me.
I Will Definitely Take Ure Advice On Seeing A Psych If I Need To.

Welcome To The Forum!!

Dr Tavee

[Hairyarmadillo]

tmb I found your post very interesting. I agree with what you said regarding seeing a psychiatrist if one feels they need these types of medications. Unfortunately, I think there is still so much ignorance about depression that a lot of people would suffer needlessly rather than go to a psychiatrist I know that mine is a chemical imbalance because I have suffered these bouts from early childhood. Never knew what it was until I was older, just thought something was wrong with me. When I finally worked up the nerve to get the first Paxil prescription from my general practitioner, the first year was like a blessing. But after time, it built up in my system and I was apathetic. Got off it, then ended back begging for something else. Hence, my current Lexapro quandry. Back to psychiatrists, I also had a bad experience there-lol. I had a negative reaction to some diet medication and in taking my history, the psychiatrist found out I had once taken Paxil. He told me that the other doctor had put me on them for a reason and I probably needed them. I explained how I had felt on the Paxil and he gave me an explanation of why it hadn't worked. His approach was to put me on Seroquel at night and he wanted to start giving me something else along with I think it was called Lithium. He thought the apathy was indicative of bipolar or manic depressive behavior. I am not well-versed in psychiatry but I knew enough to know I was not bipolar or manic depressive. I was already to the point where I just sat on the couch without energy for anything. I didn't need anything to calm me down. I was so certain though initially that he saw something I didn't so I started taking the seroquel. It was great for going to sleep but once more I started feeling like I had a frontal lobotomy. Once I got myself straight from the drug reaction I had experienced on the diet medication, I became very angry that the doc was going to put me on several medications based on his "guess" from one visit. Plus, the things that he was considering as being possible signs of manic depressive disorder were part of the reaction of the diet medication. So, no matter what doctor a person sees, I now feel the patient needs to go in as well-informed as possible.
I was very interested in your experience with the prozac. I found the use of prozac suggested in an article on the internet! I started to post it, but figured it was already on here somewhere-haha. Here's the link anyhow, and if someone has already posted it sorry! http://www.benzo.org.uk/healy.htm
But this doctor recommended Prozac to avoid all this hell we have been going through. I guess there is really something to it.
I do believe you are also right about people self-medicating as well. I have seen it in action. I hate that there are people who are more comfortable using drugs/alcohol than getting the proper treatment. I do think that there are times when antidepressants are literally a life saver. I know my initial use of Paxil made me enjoy life for the first time. It was great not having to wait for the dark cloud to come back. Unfortunately, that didn't last. I am trying to be proactive and deal with it naturally if it comes back. If not, I am definitely taking your advice about the psychiatrist versus a g.p. Thank you for sharing your story.

I have now been off my weaned down 2.5 mg dose since Tuesday night and feel like I have the "Lexapro flu" now. Does anyone know how long this lasts and if there is anything I can do to shorten my time of suffering?

[sarita-sarita]

HI TAVEE HI AUNTY..........IT'S ME SARITA......
i didn't desert you. i tried to get on, but they changed the whole site. it must have been alittle scary for us ole folk.

for those of you who don't know me, i tapered for 7 months and i''m off now for about 3 months. i've been extremely happy.................until now...............and i need AUNTY to help me...........
aunty,
i think you said that i'd feel a relaspe after 3 months, is that correct? well, i hope i remembered right cause it's back........and i'm scared.....oh god..the thought of going back on these things is my very worst nightmare.........

what is happening? why do i feel sad again? tired? confused? overwhelmed? moody? dizzy? disconnecting? anxiety? PLEASE TELL ME THIS WILL GO AWAY!!!! BUT of course, don't lie to me.....what should i do???

tavee,
how r u? i've been wondering about you. r u ok? how's the taper? your periods? my gyno wants me to go on the pill to stabilize my hormones. based on my journal, the times i feel the worst are pms, period, and after period. she thinks this will help relieve all my symptoms. but now im not pms, and everything bad is coming back. i'm so scared tavee..........

[sarita-sarita]

my stomach is a mess...i haven't gone regularly in a week. and i think it's causing me dizziness and eye problems like before.........

[tmb]

Originally Posted by Hairyarmadillo

tmb I found your post very interesting. I agree with what you said regarding seeing a psychiatrist if one feels they need these types of medications. Unfortunately, I think there is still so much ignorance about depression that a lot of people would suffer needlessly rather than go to a psychiatrist I know that mine is a chemical imbalance because I have suffered these bouts from early childhood. Never knew what it was until I was older, just thought something was wrong with me. When I finally worked up the nerve to get the first Paxil prescription from my general practitioner, the first year was like a blessing. But after time, it built up in my system and I was apathetic. Got off it, then ended back begging for something else. Hence, my current Lexapro quandry. Back to psychiatrists, I also had a bad experience there-lol. I had a negative reaction to some diet medication and in taking my history, the psychiatrist found out I had once taken Paxil. He told me that the other doctor had put me on them for a reason and I probably needed them. I explained how I had felt on the Paxil and he gave me an explanation of why it hadn't worked. His approach was to put me on Seroquel at night and he wanted to start giving me something else along with I think it was called Lithium. He thought the apathy was indicative of bipolar or manic depressive behavior. I am not well-versed in psychiatry but I knew enough to know I was not bipolar or manic depressive. I was already to the point where I just sat on the couch without energy for anything. I didn't need anything to calm me down. I was so certain though initially that he saw something I didn't so I started taking the seroquel. It was great for going to sleep but once more I started feeling like I had a frontal lobotomy. Once I got myself straight from the drug reaction I had experienced on the diet medication, I became very angry that the doc was going to put me on several medications based on his "guess" from one visit. Plus, the things that he was considering as being possible signs of manic depressive disorder were part of the reaction of the diet medication. So, no matter what doctor a person sees, I now feel the patient needs to go in as well-informed as possible.
I was very interested in your experience with the prozac. I found the use of prozac suggested in an article on the internet! I started to post it, but figured it was already on here somewhere-haha. Here's the link anyhow, and if someone has already posted it sorry! http://www.benzo.org.uk/healy.htm
But this doctor recommended Prozac to avoid all this hell we have been going through. I guess there is really something to it.
I do believe you are also right about people self-medicating as well. I have seen it in action. I hate that there are people who are more comfortable using drugs/alcohol than getting the proper treatment. I do think that there are times when antidepressants are literally a life saver. I know my initial use of Paxil made me enjoy life for the first time. It was great not having to wait for the dark cloud to come back. Unfortunately, that didn't last. I am trying to be proactive and deal with it naturally if it comes back. If not, I am definitely taking your advice about the psychiatrist versus a g.p. Thank you for sharing your story.

I have now been off my weaned down 2.5 mg dose since Tuesday night and feel like I have the "Lexapro flu" now. Does anyone know how long this lasts and if there is anything I can do to shorten my time of suffering?

Hairyarmadillo, last time I went off lexapro I felt just like you I really wanted to get off the medicine and deal with it naturally. But after almost a year off the med my symptoms had returned. I told my psych this and she explained it to me like this "Some people have inherited high blood pressure and no matter how good they eat or how much they exercise it most likely will remain high. Thus requiring lifelong treatment to keep their blood pressure normal. The same can be said true of a chemical inbalance in the brain."

See if your doc will give you a sript for two prozac pills and take those like I did. Hopefully then you will not have to deal with any withdrawal symptoms. If your symptoms return find a psychiatrist that can work with you on figuring out the best treament options for you. Good luck!

[auntybiotic]

Sarita,

Hi, This "emotional withdrawal" will go away in a few months...................so thry and stay positive,

Try Primal Defense for the stomach by Garden Of Eden.....available at most Vitamin Shoppes.

If your symptoms are hopelessness, sadness and worrying that you will NEVER feel better. Go to the Vitamin Shoppe and order Dr. Bach's Flower Essence in White Chestnut. ( It cost about $14 a bottle),

Take 4 drops under your tongue (as directed on the bottle) up to 4 times a day. This will take a day or two to work but it will help you thru the "worrying and apathy".

If your problems are more severe, where you may feel like you are "losing it" and don't feel like you want to interact with people then you may want to try Dr. Bach's Cherry Plum, again 4 drops under tongue as directed.

Tell me in more detail what other then a severe return of depression that you are feeling.

Wha was the last dose of lexapro that you had eventually tapered down to? 1 Mg .05 Mg .01 Mg................this will make a difference.

Did you ever experience the depersonalization......................if not don;t be too suprise if you do experience it in the next month or two.

Everyone oes thru this "emotional withdrawal".................your brain in reasdapting to less serotonin and it takes time for the receptors that "die off" because they were not needed,,,,,,to regenerate. You will make it thru.

What supplements are you taking and how is your sleep. Describe all symptoms you are currently having? You will get thru this and it is a normal process.................................you should be glad that you were forewarned.........think how mistified you would have been if this just happened.

aunty

[auntybiotic]

Sarita,

Hi, This "emotional withdrawal" will go away in a few months...................so thry and stay positive,

Try Primal Defense for the stomach by Garden Of Eden.....available at most Vitamin Shoppes.

If your symptoms are hopelessness, sadness and worrying that you will NEVER feel better. Go to the Vitamin Shoppe and order Dr. Bach's Flower Essence in White Chestnut. ( It cost about $14 a bottle),

Take 4 drops under your tongue (as directed on the bottle) up to 4 times a day. This will take a day or two to work but it will help you thru the "worrying and apathy".

If your problems are more severe, where you may feel like you are "losing it" and don't feel like you want to interact with people then you may want to try Dr. Bach's Cherry Plum, again 4 drops under tongue as directed.

Tell me in more detail what other then a severe return of depression that you are feeling.

Wha was the last dose of lexapro that you had eventually tapered down to? 1 Mg .05 Mg .01 Mg................this will make a difference.

Did you ever experience the depersonalization......................if not don;t be too suprise if you do experience it in the next month or two.

Everyone oes thru this "emotional withdrawal".................your brain in reasdapting to less serotonin and it takes time for the receptors that "die off" because they were not needed,,,,,,to regenerate. You will make it thru.

What supplements are you taking and how is your sleep. Describe all symptoms you are currently having? You will get thru this and it is a normal process.................................you should be glad that you were forewarned.........think how mistified you would have been if this just happened.

aunty

[auntybiotic]

Sarita,

Hi, This "emotional withdrawal" will go away in a few months...................so try and stay positive,

Try Primal Defense for the stomach by Garden Of Eden.....available at most Vitamin Shoppes.

If your symptoms are hopelessness, sadness and worrying that you will NEVER feel better. Go to the Vitamin Shoppe and order Dr. Bach's Flower Essence in White Chestnut. ( It cost about $14 a bottle).
Take 4 drops under your tongue (as directed on the bottle) up to 4 times a day. This will take a day or two to work but it will help you thru the "worrying and apathy".

If your problems are more severe, where you may feel like you are "losing it" and don't feel like you want to interact with people then you may want to try Dr. Bach's Cherry Plum, again 4 drops under tongue as directed. google Dr. bach's Flower Essences. you can read about the others and may find others that are appropriate for your symptoms.

Tell me in more detail other then a severe return of depression that you are feeling.

Wha was the last dose of lexapro that you had eventually tapered down to? 1 Mg .05 Mg .01 Mg................this will make a difference.

Did you ever experience the depersonalization......................if not don;t be too suprise if you do experience it in the next month or two.

Everyone oes thru this "emotional withdrawal".................your brain in reasdapting to less serotonin and it takes time for the receptors that "die off" because they were not needed,,,,,,to regenerate. You will make it thru.

What supplements are you taking and how is your sleep. Describe all symptoms you are currently having? You will get thru this and it is a normal process.................................you should be glad that you were forewarned.........think how mistified you would have been if this just happened. Be positive...........................this is the process of healing.

aunty

[Hairyarmadillo]

tmb, I told my friend something similar to the blood pressure story because she too has dealt with depression all of her life. I hate that for years there was so many misconceptions about depression. People are finally becoming more aware that depression is a condition not a "weakness". I am committed to going without the antidepressants long enough to get it out of my system, but if I absolutely have to get back on something, I am seeing a mental health care professional. The thing that really scared me about Lexapro was that after it started getting out of my system, all these emotions I had not dealt with came flooding back. For instance, there were certain situations that I thought I had dealt with effectively because of the lexapro, but out of the blue when the drug was decreased I would think of the situations and have the intense feelings that I should have initially. I thought these things were forgotten but I would be getting ready for work and feel intense anger over something that happened years ago and wasn't even on my mind-or so I thought. So I am thinking there is probably a lot of emotional suppression I have been doing but not aware of. Probably did that before the antidepressants as well. this whole journey is at least leading me on a path of greater self awareness

[sarita-sarita]

Aunty,
My last taper was 12/30/06 from .25 of a milligram. i tapered so very slowly @5% each few weeks.

My sleep is good but i'm still tired after 8 hours sleep. I don't feel like i'm totallly losing it. But i do feel overwhelmed again, like i can't do projects at work w/out getting nervous about them, and i don't feel like grocery shopping, cooking, but i do make myself do it. i will not let myself go down....

I am definetly feeling depersonalization again, not connecting, not looking into peoples eyes, and not feeling sexual again. this is terrible for my husband. once i do it for him, it's better but then i want to cry during sex and after.

HOw long will this "emotional withdrawal" continue? Also, i've been working just about everyday for 2 months for a big project in which i was in charge of, and i'm hoping i'm just fried, like a nervous breakdown, that i hope will pass. i took the day off today and slept 11 hours, but it's still not enough. but i'm worried i hit that breaking point again and that i won't get out of it. but i still 100% will go to work. i have no choice...

i am still on globaldnasolutions.com supplements....i take alot of omega 3, power barley, protein powder, and cherry supplement when i have anxiety. but even on the stuff, i had this attack......

i feel like i can't handle tasks again, and when i think about doing it i get nervous and want to cry. i try to take deep breathes and try to slow down but it's still inside of me. i broke out in tears last night. it felt great.........

i also feel light headed, dizzy again and that at any moment i could pass out...just go into a deep sleep that i literally have to slap my face or splash cold water on it.

but all and all, it's definelty not a serious depression or anxiety like before i went on lexipro so i have to remind myself of that. but one minute i'm happy the next back to anxiety.. one minute i cry, the next i feel great. it's crazy.

thanks for all your help. and reminding me this will pass. i hope you are right. i must beleive it'll pass.

[tavee]

Sarita Honey!!!

I Missed U!!! Im So Glad U Posted Again. Im Sorry About How U Are Feeling, But According To Aunty U Will Be Ok And The Fact That U Know What It Is U Will Get Thru It.
So Its Already 3 Months Since U Have Been Off?? Are u Really Sad Where u Feel Like U Dont Want To Live???

I Am Down To 2ml. I Have A While To Go But Im Doing Ok Except Pms. U Know How That Is!!!

Aunty- Im Not Sure If U Sent That Stuff Yet, But I Haven Received Anything. I Just Dont Want Anything To Get Lost In The Mail.

Happy Easter Everyone. Stay Positive

Love U Guys
Dr Tavee

[tavee]

Aunty-i Have A Question And I Know It Is Still Early But Once I Get Down To 1ml How Do I Go Down Again? Is It .9,.8,.7, Till I Get To.1
(the Baby Syringe?)
I Am Confused?????

Dr Tavee

[sarita-sarita]

hi tavee,
wow. you're almost to the end...amazing..........hang in there. you can do it. it's really worth it.

no, i don't feel suicidal at all. no way...not even close...just a little sad inside. my husband isn't very emotional available to hold me, hug me, etc..so i really feel it when i need it. i'm usually the one needy. but hey, you doesn't want to feel wanted besides when they want sex?

[skyer]

Sarita: It's Skywalk. I'm so sorry you're hitting the emotional withdrawals. Mine started 3 months ago (3 months after quitting cold turkey), the same time my stomach issues hit. I had really bad depression, felt hopeless and apathetic. It's getting much better, now. It will for you, too. Aunty told me to expect about four months of it and that sounds about right. The bad depression is gone. I just deal with some apathy, light depression. Some of that might just be related to some adrenal weakness, though. I still sleep a lot! But my energy is coming back slowly. Also, I think I still feel a bit low because I still have derealization and that alone makes me sad. I will not be happy till that symptom is all gone.

What is going on with your stomach? Do you have cramping in the morning and bowell movements (if you care to share!)?

Oh, I also get really overwhelmed easily by any task I take on...sound familiar?

Hang in there!

[auntybiotic]

Tavee,

I have not yet mailed them...........been busy with the Hoilday. I will on Monday. When you get down to 1 Mg or less use the small syringe. When you get down to 01......I would dilute it with water.....meaning measure the syringe with the .01 Mg of Lexapro and then fill it .09 with water....then from that point taper all the way down to .01 again of the diluted lexapro over the course of several weeks.. This way you will enable your brain to regenerate the neurotransmitters and hopefully may avoid the 3 month emotional withdrawals........................because you will still have a minute amount of lexapro in your system while you are healing.

I have had one women actually take a drop of lexapro a day just so the withdrawal was eased. Amazing that as she taperd from 5 drops to 4 drops she has withdrawals..........................scary.

Sarita,

I cannot say how long the emotional part will last..........depends on how fast your liver clears the lexapro. I know accupuncture has helped many....also detoxifying the liver thru other means helps.

I would stay away from a lot of protein in your foods as Lexapro binds to protein and you will retain it in your system longer. And many go thru a few bad days then a good day.....then maybe 2 bad days a nd one good day..............then the good days begin to outnumber the bad.

Think of it as peeling a onion.......................as you remove the layer and heal...........then other symptoms will be exposed.....................so it will be three steps forward and two steps back for the next four to six months or so. It may be interersting to get you serum serotonin levels checked to see if they are extremely low..................receptors die off while using lexapro and no one is sure the number that will actually regenerate to produce serotonin narurally. Dr Breggens book has great information on this concept.

Sarita...............................you will get better. You tapered so slow.................this drug is so terrible that your brain chemistry has to get acclaimated to being without a serotonin reoptake drug as Lexapro.

Feel free to email me privately.

aunty

[auntybiotic]

Skyer,

Noini Juice helps a lots with the depersonalization........................try sipping it thruout the day for a week and see if you notice a diffference. You can find it at the health food store.My friends daughter cannot say how MUCH this helped her depersonalization.
Link:

I am surprised no one has spoken about Noni juice .
Noni juice was recommended to me by Dr Ann Blake Tracy form the "Quitpaxil" website.

Since I began my taper in November to to being Paxil Free in December and to now: I use Noni juice

here is a link with one very interesting article..http://www.universal-tao.com/article/noni.html
http://www.noniresearch.org/united_s...e_purpose.html
http://www.noni-is-good-for-you.com/

[sarita-sarita]

skywalk,
hi! how r u!! long time...how's it going? i see youre still off the drug. good for you. my stomach...you're so funny...yes, i love talking about gross stuff....um...backed up..i'm backed up..constapated... i won't go for days..or it's very hard little things...the morning i do have some cramps and gas...

yes. i defienlty feel overwhelmed by any task...it just came back though. thank god not earlier cause i had a big project at work that went on for 2 months, one more week and i'm done!!!!!!!! whew....that's all i keep saying. one more week. one more week. but if anyone asks me to do something i immediately get tense...........do you???

aunty,
thank you so much for the tips. so, i've been off for 3 months. feeling great....so why does it come back? gosh, i'm hoping i was just exhausted from working everyday for 2 months and so much pressure too...........what should i tell the accupuncturist?i'm going to get a physical. what should i have the doctor test me for?

tavee,
i guess i have my friends back. glad you're here................

[Hopeful 285]

Hi Tavee,
Naprosyn(naproxen) is prescripton strength Aleve. Lexapro and Naprosyn can can interfere with clotting. Check this site for more information.

http://healthlibrary.epnet.com/GetCo...chunkiid=21396

NSAIDs are used to treat pain, fever, and inflammation. Traditional NSAIDs block COX-1 and COX-2 enzymes that the body uses to manufacture substances called prostaglandins. Since COX-1 prostaglandins are stomach-protective, blocking this enzyme is associated with gastrointestinal toxicity, a known side effect of these drugs. Newer NSAIDs (called COX-2 inhibitors) block primarily COX-2 prostaglandins associated with pain, fever, and inflammation, and might be are less risky to the stomach. However, this is not proven, and some COX-2s have been taken off the market due to excess risk of heart attacks attributable to their use. Drugs in this family include:

Arginine - Possible Harmful Interaction
Feverfew - Possible Harmful Interaction
Garlic, Ginkgo - Possible Harmful Interaction
Policosanol, Sugarcane source - Possible Harmful Interaction
PC-SPES - Possible Harmful Interaction
Potassium Citrate - Possible Harmful Interaction
Reishi - Possible Harmful Interaction
St. John's Wort, Dong Quai - Possible Harmful Interaction
Vinpocetine - Possible Harmful Interaction
Vitamin E - Possible Mixed Interaction
White Willow - Possible Harmful Interaction
Herbs and Supplements - Possible Harmful Interaction
Citrate - Possible Harmful Interaction
Cayenne - Supplementation Possibly Helpful
Colostrum - Supplementation Possibly Helpful
Folate - Supplementation Possibly Helpful
Licorice - Supplementation Possibly Helpful
Vitamin C - Supplementation Possibly Helpful
Policosanol, Beeswax Source - Possible Helpful Interaction
Chondroitin - Possible Harmful Interaction

Note: Besides reducing pain and inflammation, aspirin (and to a lesser extent, other NSAIDs) interfere with cells in the blood called platelets which facilitate clotting.

http://www.webmd.com/drugs/mono-1289...=Naprosyn+Oral
This drug may infrequently cause serious (rarely fatal) bleeding from the stomach or intestines. This side effect can occur without warning at any time during treatment with naproxen. The elderly are at increased risk for serious stomach/intestinal bleeding.

Drugs related to naproxen have rarely caused blood clots to form, resulting in serious (possibly fatal) heart attacks and strokes. This medication might also rarely cause similar problems. The risk of these serious side effects may increase if you have heart disease and with longer use of this medication. Talk to your doctor or pharmacist about the benefits and risks of treatment, as well as other possible medication choices.

Stop taking naproxen and seek immediate medical attention if you notice any of the following rare but very serious side effects: black stools, persistent stomach/abdominal pain, vomit that looks like coffee grounds, chest pain, shortness of breath, weakness on one side of the body, sudden vision changes, slurred speech.

This medication should not be used right before or after heart bypass surgery.

Naprosyn Oral
Back to Drug Overview
Who should not take this medication?


Check with your physician if you have any of the following:

Conditions:
Tobacco Smoking, Increased Cardiovascular Event Risk, Time Immediately after Coronary Bypass Surgery, High Blood Pressure, Chronic Heart Failure, Disease of the Heart and Blood Vessels, Stroke, Painful, Red or Swollen Mouth, Ulcer from Stomach Acid, Stomach or Intestinal Ulcer, Liver Problems, Bleeding of the Stomach or Intestines, Kidney Disease, Abnormal Liver Function Tests, Pregnancy, Problems with Food Passing Through the Esophagus, Blood Clotting Disorder

[auntybiotic]

Sarita,

tell the acupunturist that you want to detoxify the liver....he will take it from there.

Your doctor can check your cortisol levels by 24 hour saliva tests...............I am betting they will be high at night and low during the day..............the reason why you are sleeping so much and still feeling tired.( This is the opposite of normal functions).

Have your thyroid function tested...................Lexapro can mess it up.

Get a test for adrenal fatigue.

Have your serotonin serum blood levels tested. iIam betting they will be lower then normal........reason for crying one minute then feeling normal the next. It can take a year for the brain to regenerate the receptors that were shut down because they were not needed due to lexapro reuptake of serotonin. As I said, no one knows if all receptors will regenerate.

I will look for aanarticle to explain why you felt fine and now you are feeling ill again. That can explain it better then I can This site will not let me post articles. Nothing over a thousand words. Very frustrating.

[auntybiotic]

Another Link...........

For anyone with any doubt as to what SSRI withdrawal is really about... have
a look...

This is so accurate....
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=T5X01wvJWPs& mode=related& search=

[skyer]

Thanks, Aunty. I've just been so scared to take ANYTHING. My naturopath has given me a few things for different symptoms and I've had good results with some and bad results with others, so I'm really cautious. But I'm so sick of the depersonalization. It has improved slightly only twice over six months. Guess that's better than no improvement. Sounds like it has something to do with the pineal gland so if the noni juice stimulates the gland that would explain why it might help. Also, I've had so much eye pain (which is getting better finally) and I think that's pineal gland related, too. I'm just glad my tests for the adrenal fatigue came up negative, though it sounds like I have some adrenal weakness.

[Hopeful 285]

Thank you Aunty,
The part about staying away from alot of protein really helped me understand.
I started eating mostly fruits, vegetables, brown rice, and and a little beans and fish.
This diet also helps prevent cancer which is probably a good idea when you have toxic substances in your body.


Hi Skyer,
I know exactly how you feel.
I've been get very overwhelmed by every task. I took a leave of absence from work because I just feel it is too hard right now.

I did a lot of praying last night. I got a good nights rest and today my attitude is so much better than yesterday.

I really felt like my spiritualality was damaged. I couldn't feel the Holy Spirit. I thought I had lost it because my pineal gland was damaged. As you called in in a previous post the 3rd eye.

I still feel overwhelmed from the tasks but I am glad to have a breakthrough.

You will feel uplifted again too.

Take care,

[Hopeful 285]

Hi TMB,

This article is only a theory on chemical imbalances. They reflect the same opinion of Dr. Ann Blake Tracy,Dr. Peter Breggin, Dr. David Healy and many other doctors.
How did they come to the conclusion that you have a chemical imbalance?
Were you checked for:
glandular disorders especially those affecting blood sugar, thyroid or hormones
heavy metals

Do you have a sleep disorder?
Hormones (steroids) are essential and their balance critical to both mental and physical health.

Also these drugs can cause imbalances. I now have a thyroid problem which these drugs are known for causing. I also have developed high blood pressure.

If your doctor has not checked you thoroughly and you are taking these types of drugs, even if you haven't had any severe issues there could be serious future complications from taking them long term.
My sister-in-law developed a bleeding disordered and died. Another sister-in-law was paid $14,000 because she developed diabetes from taking an antidepressant. Someone else I know who is only 24 has developed thyroid problems and diabetes.
I really am not trying to scare you or go against what you are saying. I am just mentioning these things out of concern. I was given incorrect information from my doctor and now I am suffering from it.
The side effects are not as rare as reported in studies. Studies are covered up by the drug companies. They give only enough information to protect themselves from lawsuits and then say they are uncommon.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_imbalance_theory
Chemical imbalance is a term used, particularly but not exclusively in medicine, to describe a situation where different chemical substances required for correct functioning of a system are not present in the required or correct proportions.

Chemical imbalance is sometimes used as a lay explanation of mental illness or mental disorders. The term is used in consumer literature and websites for psychoactive drugs (e.g., [1]), and in advertising in the United States after the deregulation of pharmaceutical advertising. It is not used in scientific literature as it does not reflect current knowledge. A criticism of the use of this lay explanation is that explaining mental illness in terms of 'chemical imbalance' implicates a chemical solution. For example, insufficient availability of insulin in type I diabetes is treated with insulin. By analogy, it then appears that the appropriate treatment for insufficient (imbalanced) neurotransmitter levels is a chemical that fixes this balance. However, unlike Type I diabetes, chemical insufficiencies have never been identified in patients diagnosed with mental disorders, and other treatments are available for mental illness, and medication is often most effective when supplemented with other treatments.

[elizabethmaria]

Hello Aunty!!

It is so good to read your posts - thank you for all of your help! A while ago I think it was you that mentioned getting the P450 genetic test done because of the bad reaction I had (on for only 3 days, then sick in the hosp).. Could you tell me where/how to follow up on that? My doctor doesn't even believe I should have had a reaction like that, and so I don't know what to tell her about asking for the test.. or do we do it on our own? do you know anymore about the testing? I'm not having the best help from the doctors (obviously all of us are not)... they insist that nothing could be going on from the drugs, still etc..ahhh, so very frustrating and humiliating too!


Hi Sarita! I have read your posts in the previous part, but have never been on the site while you were here ! I'm just sooooo sure that you are going through the 3 month withdrawals... and they will go away! don't be afraid! Things for me seemed to be getting better, then 3 months or so and WHAM! out of the blue, everything went south -- am having seizures now -- it's yucky, but I know it's the drug obviously, and they will go away, just like everything you're feeling will too -- have had the mood changes too - like ring around the rosy, and didn't have that before ! I call it my little mood circus ... Please don't worry or be scared, it will go away like Aunty and everyone says, and don't go back to the drug!! it just will take time to adjust all those receptors, heal your glands, etc...

Today is better again! My mind is working a little better each day, with ups and downs... Does anyone have trouble like 6-7 days AFTER your period starts... ???? for some reason, things get harder for a while at that point, but seems like it should be the other way around... I get very very weak, and the seizures/brain stuff gets worse... anybody like this?

Just a note for us all.. remember, NOTHING from the outside can hurt our spirituality, when we can't feel the Holy Spirit, He still works just as much and powerfully in our souls during prayer within-- and we are being carried by Him at that time -- These drugs do something to our brains and emotions, and I have had that emptiness strongly as well for a long time -- it's so scary, but I think it's just that we cannot feel the emotional aspect of prayer at that time because we are damaged there ( just like we can't relate to others well, and feel depersonalized, etc.)- but WATCH out lexapro -- don't mess with the Holy Spirit, cause He's still there and a heck of a lot stronger! feelings or no feelings!

Ok, goodness, take care all, and Happy EASTER!!
love,
Elizabethmarie

[Hopeful 285]

Amen, Sister Elizabethmaria!

I was having a hard time feeling his
Spirit. It made me so sad and my heart so heavy.
You know he's there but you miss being able to feel the hugs.
That is a worse withdrawal than lexapro.
I am praying for everyone.


John 14:16-17
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

[elizabethmaria]

Hi Hopeful!
Thank you for these awesome posts! You've got the best info - helps a lot --!
I think this last one is so good, I mean REALLY... if people have a chemical imbalance, why does no one measure the chemicals then BEFORE giving the prescription?? Honestly it makes no sense at all -- I mean, if you think you have diabetes, would your doctor give you a prescription for insulin shots without measuring your insulin levels??? that would be crazy! of course not...
If they think you have thyroid problems, would they prescribe thyroid hormone before checking to see if your thyroid levels are truly low?? no way!
So now they say people have some mysterious chemical imbalance in their head, but no one measures these 'chemicals', before handing you powerful medication! so crazy.. I mean dangerous really..
ok, sorry, just agreeing with all that was written there ...
take care,
Elizabethmarie

[elizabethmaria]

<< for Hopeful... I said a Chaplet of Divine Mercy for you yesterday, Good Friday, at the 3 o'clock hour of mercy for mercy and good results on your thyroid testing....!! >>>
take care!
Elizabethmarie

[lexximom]

I have been on 30mg of lexapro for about 4 months and 50mg of Effexor for 1 month, I didn't like how the effexor was making me feel, so tired all the time. I have 2 children under 2 and I am going through a divorce, so i can't be tired! I talked to psychiatrist about going off, she said to go down to 25mg. I take 2 of the peach 25mg pills. Today is my 2nd day of 1 pill and i'm so sick. headeache. nauseau like morning sickness, want to sleep but can't. i'm also now just starting ambien to help me sleep. I was on clonopin but was still waking in the middle of the night. i feel like a slave to these drugs and since i'm the only one home with the babies most of the time i feel like it's not safe. any advice for weaning off everything? i think my shrink likes putting me on drugs and says they're working. but i feel worse.