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Old 09-28-2009, 05:16 PM
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Hello everyone, you can call me M.. Let me just explain briefly...I fell into some bad choices and started to abuse oxycodone about 2 years ago.. Ever since then, ive been using them almost daily, but as of three months go, i was able to get my hands on OxyContin, and i started immeadtialy taking those instead.. Well i have come to a point in my life where i no longer want to be an addict, im a very good kid really i am, no one knows about my addiction i have to hide it from the world. My uncle died 2 years ago because of these things. Im not depressed or anything, i just liked the way it made everything better. Well on september 8th, my whole world collapsed on me.. My mother 51 years of age passed away suddenly. I have a lot of regret with that because my mother and i didnt have a very good relationship at all, until 2 months ago where we decided to patch things up..i started using mroe and more and spending all my money on my addiction.. I have to hurry this up because my girlfriend is on her way to my house.. but i want to quit, today is day 1 of not using and i feel like hell, this is the worst pain i have ever felt.. and i cant tell anyone about this because i will be disowned.. i would like some advice and people to talk to and motivate me to stay strong, i will get more into details about everything later on when i get home and am by my self. Wish me luck everyone, this is hard as hell to hide. I find that the back pain and cold sweats are the worst. I have relapesed several tiems before and dotn want to again but need to fidn the strength to not.
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:32 PM
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Hi M
sounds like you have had a rough ride...I was addicted to oxycontin before...YIKES ....Have you read the Thomas recipe...
I will put it up for you, It will help you...Im real sorry about your mom...
Let us know what we can do to help you...
Talk to you soon, Melinda
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:34 PM
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"PLEASE NOTE: I am not a doctor, simply a long-time Rx opiate junkie who has had many opportunities to develop a way to detox. This is a recipe for at-home self-detox from opiates based on my experience as well as that of many other addicts. It is not intended as professional medical advice. It is always wise to make sure none of the recipe ingredients or procedures conflict with medications you may be taking. Likewise, if you have any medical condition, disease, allergy or any other health issue, consult your doctor before using the recipe. Thanks, Thomas

THOMAS RECIPE

If you can't take time off to detox, I recommend you follow a taper regimen using your drug of choice or suitable alternate -- the slower the taper, the better.

For the Recipe, You'll need:

1. Valium (or another benzodiazepine such as Klonopin, Librium, Ativan or Xanax). Of these, Valium and Klonopin are best suited for tapering since they come in tablet form. Librium is also an excellent detox benzo, but comes in capsules, making it hard to taper the dose. Ativan or Xanax should only be used if you can't get one of the others.

2. Imodium (over the counter, any drug or grocery store).

3. L-Tyrosine (500 mg caps) from the health food store.

4. Strong wide-spectrum mineral supplement with at least 100% RDA of Zinc, Phosphorus, Copper, Magnesium and Potassium (you may not find the potassium in the same supplement).

5. Vitamin B6 caps.

6. Access to hot baths or a Jacuzzi (or hot showers if that's all that's available).

How to use the recipe:

Start the vitamin/mineral supplement right away (or the first day you can keep it down), preferably with food. Potassium early in the detox is important to help relieve RLS (Restless Leg Syndrome). Bananas are a good source of potassium if you can't find a supplement for it.

Begin your detox with regular doses of Valium (or alternate benzo). Start with a dose high enough to produce sleep. Before you use any benzo, make sure you're aware of how often it can be safely taken. Different benzos have different dosing schedules. Taper your Valium dosage down after each day. The goal is to get through day 4, after which the worst WD symptoms will subside. You shouldn't need the Valium after day 4 or 5.

During detox, hit the hot bath or Jacuzzi as often as you need to for muscle aches. Don't underestimate the effectiveness of hot soaks. Spend the entire time, if necessary, in a hot bath. This simple method will alleviate what is for many the worst opiate WD symptom.

Use the Imodium aggressively to stop the runs. Take as much as you need, as often as you need it. Don't take it, however, if you don't need it.

At the end of the fourth day, you should be waking up from the Valium and experiencing the beginnings of the opiate WD malaise. Upon rising (empty stomach), take the L-Tyrosine. Try 2000 mgs, and scale up or down, depending on how you feel. You can take up to 4,000 mgs. Take the L-Tyrosine with B6 to help absorption. Wait about one hour before eating breakfast. The L-Tyrosine will give you a surge of physical and mental energy that will help counteract the malaise. You may continue to take it each morning for as long as it helps. If you find it gives you the "coffee jitters," consider lowering the dosage or discontinuing it altogether. Occasionally, L-Tyrosine can cause the runs. Unlike the runs from opiate WD, however, this effect of L-Tyrosine is mild and normally does not return after the first hour. Lowering the dosage may help.

Continue to take the vitamin/mineral supplement with breakfast.

As soon as you can force yourself to, get some mild exercise such as walking, cycling, swimming, etc. This will be hard at first, but will make you feel considerably better.

Thomas"
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:37 PM
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As an addict your never alone when your trying to find help and support. It's only when we're using that find ourselves alone. Do you have a Dr or can you find one that you can discuss your situation with. There are some medicines that can help you get through the wds a little easier. Are you planning on ct, I ask because that can be really hard to hide. Maybe you'd be better of being honest with your g friend rather than have her find out on her own. Just something to consider. You'll find a lot of support and some excellent advice here, but I'm sureyou know in the end it is all about the effort and comitment your willing to put into getting and staying clean. I'm just getting back on track after an ugly relapse. So I can relate. Make a plan, it's the best advice I have to share with you that was recently shared with me. You can do it, there's alot of success stories here, the thing they all have in common is that everyone of them truly wanted it and stuck it out to get it. I hope to be one of them
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:20 PM
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Hello everyone, you can call me M.. Let me just explain briefly...I fell into some bad choices and started to abuse oxycodone about 2 years ago.. Ever since then, ive been using them almost daily, but as of three months go, i was able to get my hands on OxyContin, and i started immeadtialy taking those instead.. Well i have come to a point in my life where i no longer want to be an addict, im a very good kid really i am, no one knows about my addiction i have to hide it from the world. My uncle died 2 years ago because of these things. Im not depressed or anything, i just liked the way it made everything better. Well on september 8th, my whole world collapsed on me.. My mother 51 years of age passed away suddenly. I have a lot of regret with that because my mother and i didnt have a very good relationship at all, until 2 months ago where we decided to patch things up..i started using mroe and more and spending all my money on my addiction.. I have to hurry this up because my girlfriend is on her way to my house.. but i want to quit, today is day 1 of not using and i feel like hell, this is the worst pain i have ever felt.. and i cant tell anyone about this because i will be disowned.. i would like some advice and people to talk to and motivate me to stay strong, i will get more into details about everything later on when i get home and am by my self. Wish me luck everyone, this is hard as hell to hide. I find that the back pain and cold sweats are the worst. I have relapesed several tiems before and dotn want to again but need to fidn the strength to not.



Based on the way you've used .... your overall history I have to agree with Melinda. I would do the Thomas Recipe, get this over with and you'll feel like a new person in a week or so. Post often, let us know how we can help you. I also agree with cferd that having your girl on your side would really help you a lot right now. Good luck and God bless.
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Old 09-29-2009, 02:36 AM
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As an addict your never alone when your trying to find help and support. It's only when we're using that find ourselves alone. Do you have a Dr or can you find one that you can discuss your situation with. There are some medicines that can help you get through the wds a little easier. Are you planning on ct, I ask because that can be really hard to hide. Maybe you'd be better of being honest with your g friend rather than have her find out on her own. Just something to consider. You'll find a lot of support and some excellent advice here, but I'm sureyou know in the end it is all about the effort and comitment your willing to put into getting and staying clean. I'm just getting back on track after an ugly relapse. So I can relate. Make a plan, it's the best advice I have to share with you that was recently shared with me. You can do it, there's alot of success stories here, the thing they all have in common is that everyone of them truly wanted it and stuck it out to get it. I hope to be one of them

I have to agree. If you've been taking oxy for over 2 years, it's going to be HARD and take a few days before you even begin to feel better. You wouldn't believe how understanding people are when you ask for help and admit you have a problem! I can honestly say that I would NOT have made it through my first 5 days without the Thomas Recipe...but the w/d still kicked my butt! If you can't hole up and hide for 5 days without touching any oxy, you should have someone there to help you...or ask for help from your doctor. They are very understanding too...believe me, they aren't going to report you to the cops! Good luck!
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Old 09-29-2009, 06:47 PM
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Ok, sorry for the long response.. well i just have a few quetions, i wanna know what are some things i can expect.. i notice latley alot of muscle twitching when im laying down and trying to rest.. is this normal? and ive managed to egt my hands on a few suboxone to help me detox but that supply is limited, like i said, to elaborate more, if anyone found out abotu this, it would be hell, i wouldnt be trusted.. i know i can do this but i am the type of person who likes to talk about these things.. i made a bad choice, and i regret it.. i jus wanna know if i will ever feel normal again.. i quit once before for about a week.. and the physical was pretty much over, ti was just fatigue and mental.. thats what im more worried about is the time after the physical withdrawls.. Thank you all so much for your tiem and cosideration.. another problem i have is the fact that i work so many horus for my father, and cannot take time off as easily as maybe other jobs. I live with him so its hard to fake sick.
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Old 09-29-2009, 08:18 PM
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i also have some stories to share later on that i think anyone can relate to if hiding an addition after i can find some energy to write them..
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Old 09-29-2009, 09:13 PM
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i also have some stories to share later on that i think anyone can relate to if hiding an addition after i can find some energy to write them..



It's hard to get things exactly the way that you want them when trying to stop drugs. It's almost impossible for no one to know, you can't have w/d symptoms, you have to go to work appearingly sober every day, etc. All that is tough to accomplish.

I could recommend suboxone but you'll have to go to the dr for them. Once I get you stable after induction on them you can go about your business as usual and no one will know the difference. But you'll need a sub dr and you'll have to give me a couple days to get you into w/d properly and then do the induction. That's the only way to do this like you're requesting. Let me know if you want my help.

Here is a link explaining how I suggest using subs. Been doing it here almost two years and there are a ton of clean people who've used this process to accomplish their sobriety. God bless.

http://www.drugs.com/forum/featured-...apy-50887.html
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Old 09-30-2009, 03:26 AM
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M,

I would like to read your stories. We all have some and while they are some of the saddest times of our lives, they are also motivation for us to not go there again...those stories help people a lot.

I know it is hard "hiding yourself". At times it's hard to accomplish with regards to other people but it is always hard on you. It just wears you out. You need rest and relief from it. You are on your way to that. You are beginning a trip of a good kind into light that will more than likely expose things to you about yourself you didn't know, and finding and understanding those things are some of the keys to licking this addiction thing. Keep up the good fight and keep posting.
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