[11Bravo]

how long do the chills and sweating from a 3 year use of suboxone last in your experience? i am on day 12 free of suboxone and while i feel much better of course i am still really sweaty in the morning and have chills at night and feel like my body's temp is all messed up-like its weird because i wake up feeling like i am kicking. I CANT TAKE THIS ******** WHERE I HAVE TO CHANGE MY SHIRT EVERY HALF HOUR ANYMORE! HELP

i AM RE-POSTING THIS IN BOTH FEATURED DRUGS AND CONDITIONS BECAUSE I AM REALLY GOING NUTS AND NEED SOME INFO.INTERESTED IN PEOPLES EXPERIENCES.

[Robert_325]

Bravo ..... Like I told you yesterday it can last a good month or longer for you to get noticeably better the way you jumped off the subs abruptly. Why do you keep posting the same identical questions on multiple threads? People answering only need to read them on one thread.

It does NO GOOD for you to keep posting all these all these new threads with NO new information on them about you with each question you have. You have not mentioned that you're wanting to do naltrexone therapy or anything about yourself on these threads. How can anyone give you a reply that has a merit to it at all when you ask a different generic question on multiple threads expecting different replies?

Doing this like the way you're doing it really makes the replies you get back pretty much worthless as no one knows anything about your history doing it like this unless they just happen to know you.

AS I've said repeatedly you should have ONE THREAD about yourself. That's it! Post or reply to anyone on any one else's thread that you want to reply to but people can't remember everything someone says about themselves from so many different threads written in a couple days with little tidbits of information on each different thread. God bless.

[11Bravo]

I was trying to get some responses from people about "their" experiences not my own. I did not mention LDN bc i figured that i shot that one out there and got no where because no one had any real experience with it. I recognize that you have explained it could last a month but that is rather vague and i feel like ******** and dont want to go back on subs...so i was just trying to see what other peoples experiences are...sorry if you felt i misused the forum...I was not feeling well and you were tied up.

[RubyDean]

Bravo, I feel bad for you, and I know how hard it is. The few times I skipped days, etc. I felt like I was sweating really bad, and just felt funny all around. I know from talking with others who jumped at the suggested .50mg, or .25mg still had sweating, sleepless nights, and all the other symptoms for days, even weeks. Then after that it can come in waves, where one day you feel good, and the next day not so good at all. Not sure what you jumped from, but 3 years of suboxone is a long ass time, and 2 weeks off of it is such a major accomlishment, but not very long in the big picture. This drug has so many facets, and it is such a relatively 'new drug' nobody has all the answers, and documentation is limited. That si why this forum, this site is the absolute best source of knowledge and first hand experience I have found. The only thing i can reccomend is to keep staying clean, drink tons of water, take vitamins, eat healthy, and excercise everyday, as much as possible. I would even try to go to a steam room, and get messages if you can. For me, I participate in sweat lodge ceremonies often, and that helps me physically, mentally, and spiritually. Filling that void is such a crucial part of the recovery process, and everyone has to find what works best for them. I need my spirituality, my prayer, my NA meetings, my family, wife, and kids, everyday just to make this whole thing possible. I knwo that doesn't answer all the physical aspects to what you a suffering from, but it all starts there for me. The body will follow. When man or woman disconnects with nature, sin is innevitable. So I suggest you get as close to nature and healthy relationships as you can. Hang in there man, it will get better, just takes time. all the will.

[SheLovesKoalas]

Personally, I think that you jumped off waaaay too soon. What was it that made you go from 12 mg to 0 in an instant?

Geez, I jumped off at a half mg, after taking that dose for a while yet. And my w/d hit about 3-4 days later. It was hell for me then. So I cannot even imagine the condition your in today. And I too feel bad for you.

If you don't have a valid reason for coming off of Suboxone at that dose, I suggest you go back on them for a while and begin your weaning process all over again.

By valid reasoning I mean that if you can no longer afford the Sub doctor, or the mediation itself, then perhaps jumping off at 12mg doesn't seem quite as insane. Although for me, knowing now how slow my weaning and eventual departure from using Suboxone was, I would do anything I could to start again.

I would much rather spend the money on my Dr. and the rx than to relapse and end up going back to 30 oxy's a day and paying street prices for them. And that isn't even to mention the insanity of counting pills, panic-stricked days of being out of the oxy's and looking in desperation for someone who could get them for me, the money I was taking from other people in order to finance my addiction, etc.

It seems to me that there are many people who try and want so very badly to get off the Suboxone quickly. For me? I was soooo grateful for a drug that would actually HELP me get off that oxy merry-go-round, I would have stayed on the Sub's forever if that is what my doctor suggested. Hell, I would've stood on my head and spit nickels if someone told me that it would get me off oxy's virtually pain-free. I was in no hurry to complete my Suboxone treatment. And I was one of my doctors' first patients he was treating with Suboxone, we went into the treatment with not much knowledge of its workings, yet hopeful just the same.

Godspeed!



PS: Hey Robert......long time no see!

[Robert_325]

Hi Janice .... I'm still here every day. Don't be a stranger. God bless.

[11Bravo]

Ruby,
I think your spot on when it comes to the sweat lodges and getting my body back in tune with the natural order of things. I will have to look for one of those..acupressure really helped me a lot but that's expensive after a while...I go once a week for acupuncture at a Chinese College of medicine and it helps immensely! Thanks for your kind words of support and god bless.

Janice,

I jumked off at the same dose as you. I think every withdrawal is the worst one because of our ability to recall pain intensity while in our current state of pain. I could not stay on sub...money,having to worry about taking it..etc. I have been feeling extra dumpy the last couple of says thus my lack of posting and I hope that will change after all its been over 2 weeks. The stuff that's still lingering is the morning sweats, super cold feet(acupuncture helps with that), random sneezing, and the most intense of all: hyper-depression and anxiety! Hope my meetings and the little exercise i have begun will help.