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    uhgmongrall is offline New Member
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    Hello and thanks already. Okay been on prescribed pain killers 10 years. Oxycodone 15mg x 6 = 90mg daily. I'm really on them for chronic pain, typical lumbar complaints, need surgery but been putting off. I'm permanently disabled and I'm on Social Security Dissability because of my back. I almost never ran out early, never had them stolen etc..Last 4 or 5 refills things have been getting out of control. I constanty think about my oxycodone, over and over. Driving me crazy. They have tookin over my life. I am a Hermit. I never leave my room except for Doctors visit. Socially I just want to be left alone (except fo you guys).Same thing you all have heard a million times.
    So this last time when i ran out 4 days early and was going thru horrible withdrawals I did some coke to help , it only made it worse. Only done that ???? a few times. Then, yep you know whats next. Piss test, popped then dropped but gave me 30 day oxy script anyway. This is where I am now so I could kinda easily go out and get another Doctor but I am mad at myself for letting this drug do this to me and for losing 10 years of my life. Im mad as hell and i'm not going to take it anymore.
    So called Suboxone Doc and got the info. No problem $200 office visit and $150 per month after that. Gives me script see him in a month. Get another scipt. They say my insurance will pay for script might take 1 day for pre- authorization.
    So my Questions are does this sound right to you? Going on Suboxone Treatment?
    Should I go on it even though I have chronic pain or is the pain just in my head or is it worth it even if I suffer?
    Will the suboxone take away my joint aches and other sickness during withdrawals. I know, wimpy but of all the withdrawals symptons those little aches in my elbow and legs drive me crazy.
    Is it that simple? Just go and get on Suboxone and deal with the suboxone withdrawals later?
    Should I be completly out of oxy's first. They wont have no affect later, right? or can I pop 1 if my pain is really bad?
    Does Suboxone help any with Pain?
    Seeing Psc Doc tommorow, for Depression. Could I or should I ? ask him for something for sleep or anxiety?
    Last Question, what about 3-4 day inpatient Detox? They will treat me with Suboxone. Insurance will pay. Is this a better route to start with because I do suffer with depression and really bad sleep apnea borderline narcolepsy because cant sleep.
    Thank you so much for reading and any help you can give me. I'm really sorry for this post because I know its like the 10 millionth for you but my first. Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by uhgmongrall View Post
    Hello and thanks already. Okay been on prescribed pain killers 10 years. Oxycodone 15mg x 6 = 90mg daily. I'm really on them for chronic pain, typical lumbar complaints, need surgery but been putting off. I'm permanently disabled and I'm on Social Security Dissability because of my back. I almost never ran out early, never had them stolen etc..Last 4 or 5 refills things have been getting out of control. I constanty think about my oxycodone, over and over. Driving me crazy. They have tookin over my life. I am a Hermit. I never leave my room except for Doctors visit. Socially I just want to be left alone (except fo you guys).Same thing you all have heard a million times.
    So this last time when i ran out 4 days early and was going thru horrible withdrawals I did some coke to help , it only made it worse. Only done that ???? a few times. Then, yep you know whats next. Piss test, popped then dropped but gave me 30 day oxy script anyway. This is where I am now so I could kinda easily go out and get another Doctor but I am mad at myself for letting this drug do this to me and for losing 10 years of my life. Im mad as hell and i'm not going to take it anymore.
    So called Suboxone Doc and got the info. No problem $200 office visit and $150 per month after that. Gives me script see him in a month. Get another scipt. They say my insurance will pay for script might take 1 day for pre- authorization.
    So my Questions are does this sound right to you? Going on Suboxone Treatment?
    Should I go on it even though I have chronic pain or is the pain just in my head or is it worth it even if I suffer?
    Will the suboxone take away my joint aches and other sickness during withdrawals. I know, wimpy but of all the withdrawals symptons those little aches in my elbow and legs drive me crazy.
    Is it that simple? Just go and get on Suboxone and deal with the suboxone withdrawals later?
    Should I be completly out of oxy's first. They wont have no affect later, right? or can I pop 1 if my pain is really bad?
    Does Suboxone help any with Pain?
    Seeing Psc Doc tommorow, for Depression. Could I or should I ? ask him for something for sleep or anxiety?
    Last Question, what about 3-4 day inpatient Detox? They will treat me with Suboxone. Insurance will pay. Is this a better route to start with because I do suffer with depression and really bad sleep apnea borderline narcolepsy because cant sleep.
    Thank you so much for reading and any help you can give me. I'm really sorry for this post because I know its like the 10 millionth for you but my first. Thanks again




    You need more than a 3-4 day detox in my experience. I think subs would be a viable option for you. But not for the pain issues rather to get clean and then re-evaluate your pain while not under the influence longterm from the oxy. Opiate dependence is painful in itself. You go a few hours and if you don't take more you go into w/d. So lots of your pain, while real, is caused by the very medication prescribed to help you.

    I was on over 900mg a day of 30mg Roxis so I know the feeling. Abused opiates for 35 years from sports injuries and illnesses. Been clean nine years now and I make it on Ibuprofen. Of course that wouldn't help you while taking a bunch of oxy but if you've been clean for a while most people find the pain gets better than while on the pain meds. If you'll trust me I'll prove what I'm saying is the truth.

    Here is a link to how I've worked with others here on subs for years. Read the INDUCTION part closely. The entire process from induction, taper and stopping is explained in detail and it lasts about two months. If you'll do what I ask to the letter I can help you I promise. Let me know what you think after you read the link. God bless.

    http://www.drugs.com/forum/featured-...apy-50887.html
    I am not a dr. My statements are based on years of experience and related education. Consult with the professional of your choice regarding matters of concern.

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    Thanks Robert for your reply. Very good info. I did by chance read that letter you wrote a couple days before you sent it to me, lol. I found it by googling. Ive been reading everything I could about Suboxone for the last week trying to prepare for my Metamorphosis. Thanks for taking the time to write all that. I saved it to Favorites so I can flash back to it when a new thought pops in my head.

    I really thought, GREAT ANSWER, when you said get clean and then re-evaluate your pain. I will do that.
    I have a question though,lol. I'm sorry but dem dare oxy's made me stupid (or more stupid)

    Q: If im hurting really bad at anytime of my Detox, what would happen if I took -
    (1) -15mg oxycodone. Could it do anything for pain or wd's? could it make me sick? I start Suboxone on Sept 1. I have (50) 15mgs pills left. I know I have to be in moderate withdrawals Sept 1 so I will stop taking any 2 whole days before Sept 1st. Do I want to be completly out ? So I dont get tempted or could having a couple help in case of pain/wd's?

    You are very generous man for taking the time to help so many. Thank you, thats all -
    (for now,lol)

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    It was very interesting to read your initial post as your story just seems to happen to everyone. The doctor will prescribe some type of narcotic, it works, you only take it as directed; fast-forward a couple months and your clock is your new best friend. You get to look at it all day, waiting (or in many cases not waiting) for that special time when you can escape for an hour or two.

    I am glad to see that you are taking action and trying to kick the habit. I have had friends that have gone the Suboxone route and it has worked great for them. In fact one friend who was heavily addicted to Percocet (he also sold tons of them) went on Suboxone and was able to kick the habit and still manage to keep his thriving business going without eating all of his product.

    You did mention that you are in chronic pain and I cannot imagine having to deal with that on a daily basis. If you do end of kicking the habit (I hope you do) and still find your chronic pain hindering your life perhaps try a different type of opiate.

    With OxyContin I can not control myself but I found when I was switched to Morphine I had no trouble taking them as prescribed as they provided none of the euphoric effects of oxycodone while still helping my shoulder pain. I have also heard this to be true with a number of other people. It is just something to ponder in case you are in true pain and need something stronger than an OTC medication. At the same time I do not want to contribute to someone developing a new habit or addiction so take that with a grain of salt.

    - Selfish

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    Thanks u 2 for your replies. I had my questions answered on a different Forum. I guess this one moves a little slower so no one needs to reply anymore because im out of here. Good luck to all of you going through the same thing. Lifes a beaatch then you go through withdrawals,lol.;

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    I gotta say first of all, no one needs to suffer chronic pain for the rest of their lives except the unfortunate people with terminal illnesses. I can't believe you can't find a specialist who can find the cause of your pain and perform surgery or whatever else is necessary to relieve the pain. Narcotics only mask pain, not get rid of it. Also, Robert is absolutely right in that after a long time of using narcotics the pain you experience without the drugs is caused from not having the drug and not the pain you need them for. You may find if you get clean and begin exercising your pain will go away the natural way, since right now you are only covering it up and not healing.

    I'll try to answer your questions with my personal experiences:

    If you go to a doctor to begin rehab and let them know you have anxiety/sleep trouble/depression they will likely prescribe you something like zoloft in addition to suboxone.

    Suboxone is a pain killer. I've met people in NA who have had surgeries and were given their choice of vicodin or suboxone and used the suboxone to kill pain and not relapse. It is not extremely powerful, but it definitely kills small aches and pains like over the counter meds do.

    Throw away any oxy's you have left before starting subs, that's what the doctor told me. Do not take any, just throw them away and wait out as long as you can until the withdrawals are bad and then start your subs.

    I don't know anything about inpatient rehab or sleep apnea, hope I helped some.

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