[alaska88]

This is 2nd round of suboxone. Been on it about 1.5 years this time. DOC was pain pills. stayed around 8mg, most of this ride, down to 4mg steady for a couple weeks (was breaking the 8's, but when I got the 2mg's I realized I must have been taking more), got right down to 2mg for about a week or so, then i did a "weekend off" and reinducted at 1mg. I have been on 1mg steady for six days now.

Symptoms are severe sweating, spacyness, uncomfortable, sore throat, cough, fluish but not puking or diarhea hot/cold flashes. I take Seroquel to sleep, so sleep isn't the problem. I also have clonodine and xanax.

How should I get off ASAP? I'm questioning my taper because I'm miserable, and if I'm miserable I might as well just be off the ******** alltogether. I have read and read, and know jumping from 1mg is probably the wrong thing to do, as I have to work full time and take care of other responsibilities.

Sometimes I think I went down too fast and of course feel like taking more but I have gone all this week w/o spiking and don't want to waste this week. It's really hard for me to give myself any credit at all, though, bc I feel I am "wasting" the week because even though I've suffered and "put in my time" to the detox, I'm still on it at the end of the day.

I do exercise regularly and feel that I am fit enough for this fight.

Breaking the pills smaller the .5 is going to be a total guess in the wind, also.

I've heard Robert is the go-to guy, so here I am! Again, my goal is to just be off this ******** ASAP and not extend the misery one day longer than normal. I'm motivated to do this.

Thanks from way up north,

Alaska 88

[RubyDean]

The best way I have been accurate in smaller dosages is to take 2mg, and crush it, divide in 4 equal (.5mg) piles. This way you know you are much more accurate, and this is very important at the smaller dosages. You went from 2mg, down to 1mg, and that is a big jump. Most folks go to 1.5mg first for a few days, and then drop to 1mg. You can be off in a few weeks if you stick to a 25% reduction. Keep up the good work, and try not to get too discouraged. many people have done this with minimal problems, so stay strong!

[Robert_325]

RubyDean is right. Keep your reduction to 25% every four days and you'll probably do just fine. God bless.

[alaska88]

I dosed 1mg at 4:37AM, no clonodine today, at 2:00 PM w/d's hit hard, sweats head to toe, spacey eyes, shaking hands. (forgot clonodine at home). Took a "sliver" at 4:30, broke down. I also took a "sliver" last night around 7:30PM, other than that is has been strictly 1mg going on 7 days/nights now.

What is your recommendation for when these w/d symptoms hit while I stabilize on 1mg? Or should I do .5 and .5, which might alleviate the need for the sliv?

Once I go 4 days/nights w/o having to take a sliver I plan to cut to .75 mg's per day...From what I am reading, you recommend two half-doses rather than the full?

I have been around these sub forums a while and am very grateful to the time and energy you invest helping people. This advice/taper plan of yours is different than I have heard at other sites and I am more than willing to give it a go, and then provide the follow up feedback on how it works for me specifically.

Is there anything else you need to know? My other medications are Seroquel 450mg per night, Xanax 2-3mg, Clonodine .1. I do not have any intentions of getting of these meds right now.

thank you sooo much.

Alaska 88

[alaska88]

So I busted out the razor blade and the framed picture and crushed a 2mg and lined them up in .5's as best I could. Seems like it is going to be difficult to get this stuff under my tongue, and I can't help but think of inhalation at this juncture as the best way to ingest, most efficient.??

Maybe it's just the nature of what I just did that put those thoughts in my head?

[alaska88]

I hijacked christi's thread, so I will keep my issues here and hope it gets "checked on." Tuesday morning I will go down to .75....taking .35 twice a day.

Still don't know how to get .35 in a pile...will play around I s'pose. I am jealous of those that have access to the .2 Temgesics!

I am so relieved to have found this forum. Last Sat. I went on a "sub vacation" and then reinducted at 1mg, and have been miserable for a week. Today I feel so much better at .5 and .5, maybe it is the double dosing, and maybe I do get credit for the week I 'suffered.'

Nonetheless, I will use a crease of paper to get the sub in my mouth and I will hope to get feedback from anyone who has been thru this to help "monitor" and advise as I get off this ASAP at the 25% reduction plan.

Thanks thanks thanks thanks

Alaska88

[bev49]

How do you get the .2 temgesics? Are they only available in Europe? It would be great to have the .8 and .2 doses. Would make life much easier.

[alaska88]

Bev, they are only available in the UK. We could only hope!

Alaska88

[bev49]

That really sucks. They also have .8 mg subutex there. Wth? The doses we get here are way too high. No one needs 16 mgs. a day. This stuff is so strong. We just don't realize it because it doesnt give the euphoric effect but it sure is powerful. Maybe one day they'll let us have access to the .8 and .2's. As you said alaska, we can only hope.

[purpledog]

apparently we used to get the .4mg temgesic over here in nz a few years back. some old skool people can remember it. i cant.
scary thing, i just googled temgesic, and you can buy them for $2 a .2mg pill at plenty of online pharmacies without a prescription. wtf. .2mg,.4mg scary that you can buy it tho. over the net!!
good one alaska you doing it all right pal, i wish you all the best
take it easy
be strong
purpledog

[bev49]

I woudl buy them over the net in a heartbeat if I didnt really truly believe that most of the stuff you get online is counterfeit. Ive bought ambien online before that were OK but I don't trust online pharmacies. They just need to make those doses available in the US.