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in desperate need of help, pleeease..withdrawal w/ suboxone..
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    Default in desperate need of help, pleeease..withdrawal w/ suboxone..

    Hi ppl...this is my first time posting here, I don't have anywhere else to turn. I have just started my withdrawal process from oxycodone and am using suboxone to help myself. I was using oxycodone for about 4 months, taking anywhere between 2 to 6 30 mg pills a day. Over the past week and a half to 2 weeks I cut down to no more than 4 but usually 2 30mg pills a day. I was told by my doctor that I have an enlargemtnt in my heart and she believes it is because of my drug use which always caused my heart to beat fast and hard. Now that I am withdrawing and taking suboxone (I took an 8 mg pill today which was definitelly too much) my heart won't stop pounding..I have no one to ask for advice and I am terrified that somethign bad will happen to my heart becuz it is beating so hard. I'm only 20 years old and having heart problems! I'm very scared, I have a long history of drug abuse for my age. I was clean for a lonnnggg time and now I fell into the trap of this terrible drug. I am desperate to get off but I feel so alone and I am crying now, writing this post, because all I have is my cellphone with internet access to turn to. Can anyone guide me through this suboxone withdrawal? When will this heart pounding stop? Will something bad happen to me? Can anyone tell me how long the side effects last...
    Is thisnormal? I'm alone and scared. I'm afraid to sleep, I can't get up to do anything..I also have a concussion so I've been in bed for days feeling horrible and I just can't take this anymore I am so lonely and the suboxone is messin me up I feel so weird, can someone talk me through this..I don't wanna go back to using, I've gone too far in my life and I'm only 20 but am at the doctor with a nmew health problem every week..please help..

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    Hi vik...First of all, calm down...you're alright. You seem pretty anxious right now and I'm sure that part of what's making your heart pound is anxiety. Also, too much Sub can create that same sensation when it's first taken.

    Try and lie down, deep breaths....let your mind go to a restful place. If you can't lie quietly, get a book...try and read. Do anything to get your mind off yourself. Centering on your heart and the feelings you are having will only make your anxiety worse. Try and relax. Get a cold rag, wring it out well and place behind your neck.

    If your doctor had thought you were in any immediate danger, they would've have sent you directly to a heart specialist. The fact that they didn't means that they do not believe you are in any immediate danger.

    8 mgs of Sub is a lot...you might want to do 4 mgs your next dose and see if that keeps your heart from pounding. I'm a firm believer in "less is more" when it comes to Suboxone.

    You are going to be ok '

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    Thanks so much..its great to even just get an answer, and a helpful one at that..all I want is some reassurance and had no one to give me that...I've calmed down because I dozed off for about an hour. I feel better now though when I try to get up and do anything, my heart starts to beat quick again..I'm just goNna take it easy as much as I can until all this is over, and deeefinitelly take less sub next time..if not for this heart thing, the withdrawal would be piece of cake compared to doin it without any help!! Thank u..

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    For the short length of time you've been using, you probably should have tapered off the pills rather than even using the sub but since you started, 8 mgs. is way too high a dose for you. When I first started sub, after a much longer addiction to methadone, it made me anxious and jumpy and I couldn't sleep at all either. It wasn't until I got down to 4 mgs. and even less that I started to feel normal. Sub is a super strong opiate. Cut the dose. You don't need that much. Read threads especially by Robert 325. He can help you taper off the sub in a short time.

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    I agree with NYG. I also used 30mg roxi IR before getting clean on subs, but I was taking thirty of them a day and had used opiates 35 years. I would have suggested a lesser strategy than subs initially. But since you're already doing them I would drop the dose by 25% every four days. That has worked for LOTS of people I've worked with here for years. I would say go to 6mg for two days, then to 4mg for a couple days and keep us posted how you feel during that time. Then at 4mg you should start doing it every four days. The first couple reductions will be a piece of cake. Then you should slow it down some as I said. Let me know how I can help you as you progress forward. God bless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikachka View Post
    Hi ppl...this is my first time posting here, I don't have anywhere else to turn. I have just started my withdrawal process from oxycodone and am using suboxone to help myself. I was using oxycodone for about 4 months, taking anywhere between 2 to 6 30 mg pills a day. Over the past week and a half to 2 weeks I cut down to no more than 4 but usually 2 30mg pills a day. I was told by my doctor that I have an enlargemtnt in my heart and she believes it is because of my drug use which always caused my heart to beat fast and hard. Now that I am withdrawing and taking suboxone (I took an 8 mg pill today which was definitelly too much) my heart won't stop pounding..I have no one to ask for advice and I am terrified that somethign bad will happen to my heart becuz it is beating so hard. I'm only 20 years old and having heart problems! I'm very scared, I have a long history of drug abuse for my age. I was clean for a lonnnggg time and now I fell into the trap of this terrible drug. I am desperate to get off but I feel so alone and I am crying now, writing this post, because all I have is my cellphone with internet access to turn to. Can anyone guide me through this suboxone withdrawal? When will this heart pounding stop? Will something bad happen to me? Can anyone tell me how long the side effects last...
    Is thisnormal? I'm alone and scared. I'm afraid to sleep, I can't get up to do anything..I also have a concussion so I've been in bed for days feeling horrible and I just can't take this anymore I am so lonely and the suboxone is messin me up I feel so weird, can someone talk me through this..I don't wanna go back to using, I've gone too far in my life and I'm only 20 but am at the doctor with a nmew health problem every week..please help..
    Your'e definatley NOT alone .there are fantastic people on this site with a wealth of advice/experience/knowledge,and the more u read,the more u will feel at ease :P.Could i suggest typing "Suboxone Withdrawal" into the Drugs.com search engine???? (perhaps check out the later posts,some cld be a bit old in there,lol)there are almost 2000 posts under that heading alone and the info in there is priceless.hopefully it will help give u a better idea of what to expect and that it IS Doable.TAking ur mind off things is a gr8 suggestion,but at the same time if u are that worried about ur heart,u cld always go to a hospital A&E and they cld check u out,set ur mind at ease.rest assured ur doing the right thing,and its good that ur realising this at a young age,im 35yrs old and had a >>>>>> habit for almost 15 of those,then a 5yr suboxone habit.I fully believe power of suggestion is a powerful thing.Just try to keep thinking about how good u will feel when ur of the meds/etc ,stay positive,even when it gets hard,DONT GIVE IN !!!(easier said than done sumtimes i know ).I went straight off at 4mg a day/7days a week,that was now 17 days ago,i know i shld have tapered,but my personal circumstances stopped me from doing that.I feel a little better each day.....all im trying to say is it CAN be done,and the earlier in ur life the better.Keep it up,GL and god bless (my personal story is under the afformentioned Heading,page 63,being the noob i am,i did a post instead of thread 1st time,haha :P)

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    Thanks everyone for the support, its really GREATLY appreciated, sorry I don't know exactly how to go about using these websites in terms of posting stuff and whatnot, and I've seen some people post questions that have already been asked only to get responses of ppl "yelling" at them for making the mistake, so thanks for being so nice lol. Its been abooout 36 hrs since my last and first dose of suboxone. I will admit that I just caved and did a tiny bit of oxy..only about 15 mg, along with some xanax...I was feeling ?????? and really upset and gave in...I hope this won't set back my withdrawal? I fully intend on going right back on the subs when its time..and definitelly will cut down my dose. I think even 4 mg will do it for me this time, but I am starting to feel that there is nothing I can do bout my pounding heart and just have to wait it out being that it is a normal withdrawal symptom, right? Thank u guys so so much and I will search for more answers and stuff. These posts from u have been my greatest help. Even my boyfriend who has been thru this withdrawal lots of times hasn't been very understandinbg or helpful to me, and that hurts me a lot..and I have a concussion too, just went thru an abortion and my grandmother just died. I'm a wreck and feel so lonely, so what everyone is saying means a lot. Thank you.
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    Oh and ben I hope you feel better soon too. Good for u for stayin strong !!
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    Default Robert...please talk to Vik...

    Vik...you cannot do oxy and xanax while doing suboxone. Xanax is dangerous to take with Sub and oxy will not do anything for you while taking Sub. I'm asking that someone explain why to you.

    Robert or someone, please explain why these two drugs cannot be taken with Suboxone....I'm not too good at explaining the "why" of it but do know that you cannot take these two drugs with Suboxone.

    Vik, if you're going to do the Subs, you must give them time to work for you and do exactly as Robert says, ok?

    Best wishes to you...I know it's a trying time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aria14 View Post
    Vik...you cannot do oxy and xanax while doing suboxone. Xanax is dangerous to take with Sub and oxy will not do anything for you while taking Sub. I'm asking that someone explain why to you.

    Robert or someone, please explain why these two drugs cannot be taken with Suboxone....I'm not too good at explaining the "why" of it but do know that you cannot take these two drugs with Suboxone.

    Vik, if you're going to do the Subs, you must give them time to work for you and do exactly as Robert says, ok?

    Best wishes to you...I know it's a trying time.



    Mixing benzos and subs together can cause a drug interaction which may result in respiratory depression, or you can stop breathing. Lots of drs won't even prescribe subs to you if benzos show up in your drug screen. Hope that helps. God bless.
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    Ok thank u guys I know the dangers, but I know how much I can take safely and when to take it. I don't take the two nearly anywhere close to eachother and take very very low doses of the xanax. I would rather take the valerian root that I just got, anyway. Also, I do not get prescriptions for anything. I live in brooklyn so I can get anything I need without a doctor. I'm not liek...uneducated or anything, not a bad person, just trying to get off these fckin evil blue pills that I got hooked on by accident which sounds retarted, won't get into it, and also tryin to keep my anxiety down cuz I'm a very anxious person. And I need a little xanax to relax me and help mesleep too cuz I've got a concussion which is killliiin me its hell, so I have a double whammy of misery here. I can barely look at this screen to type my replies cuz it hurts my eyes and ehad so much. Anyway. I appreciate the help and concern, and you guys usin ur time on silly little me. The withdrawal is goin ok though, just to keep yous updated. Heart is actually feelin better now, and I took the one dose subs like 3 days ago and stuck it out til today to take my next dose. Also, my first and last dose was 8 mg, but the one I just took was like....maybe 1 mg. And I'm fine. Given a couple more days, ill be clean off this, I kno cuz I've done it before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikachka View Post
    Ok thank u guys I know the dangers, but I know how much I can take safely and when to take it. I don't take the two nearly anywhere close to eachother and take very very low doses of the xanax. I would rather take the valerian root that I just got, anyway. Also, I do not get prescriptions for anything. I live in brooklyn so I can get anything I need without a doctor. I'm not liek...uneducated or anything, not a bad person, just trying to get off these fckin evil blue pills that I got hooked on by accident which sounds retarted, won't get into it, and also tryin to keep my anxiety down cuz I'm a very anxious person. And I need a little xanax to relax me and help mesleep too cuz I've got a concussion which is killliiin me its hell, so I have a double whammy of misery here. I can barely look at this screen to type my replies cuz it hurts my eyes and ehad so much. Anyway. I appreciate the help and concern, and you guys usin ur time on silly little me. The withdrawal is goin ok though, just to keep yous updated. Heart is actually feelin better now, and I took the one dose subs like 3 days ago and stuck it out til today to take my next dose. Also, my first and last dose was 8 mg, but the one I just took was like....maybe 1 mg. And I'm fine. Given a couple more days, ill be clean off this, I kno cuz I've done it before.
    Sorry i hadnt been on for a few days,kinda went downhill a little bit (dont worry,didnt re-lapse,just the usual side-effects-w/d:P).So in another day and a bit it will be 3weeks since my last 4mg Sub tab,yey!getting there slowly but surelyDont feel silly,lol,we ALL make mistakes at sumtime or another.....its all in how we deal with it i guess.Heading here is a good start!!,hang in there,try to follow w/e plan u decide(>> suggest tapering properly,Cold turkey sucks ass!!!!).Again,i just want 2 say a quick CHEERS!! to all and ty 4 helping me thru this.Ive never been 1 for asking others for help/advice,but by god it helps,makes all the difference ,peace all,god bless

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