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Old 05-19-2009, 04:07 PM
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Oh btw there are lots of the god-squad here in the US. Each to there own but don't be put of by all the jesus talk - they are just trying to share what helped them. If I see Jesus I'll know I've bee taking too many drugs! lol



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hey businessman1, codeine is converted by enzymes in your liver to morphine. 100mg of codeine will give a feeling of euphoria, the more times you take it, the more you have to have to get the same effects, this is then followed by your worries just seeming to disappear, i have lots of problems, worries, probly not that bad in reality but i cant deal with it, i dont worry when i have codeine, it stops my anxiety in its tracks. I only came across it because i didnt have an nhs dentist in uk, i had repeated abcesses, making my face swell up, i couldnt afford to go private so took these tablets at the standard dose until one day i took more than the recommended dose & hence my problem began & here i am. I dont know about the drugs in the US, from wat i can gather they are stronger but give a similar feeling, i dont know if im right about that or not?
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I know what you mean about the anxiety thing. Oxy does the same for me but I also think it makes it worse before I take it. I never used to have as much anxiety before I started taking opiates. Now I have loads and the opiates do make it go away for a little while.

I'm convinced that when I stop, and it's been out my system for a while, I'll have less anxiety and be able to deal with normal anxiety like everyone else.

Does the valium not do the same thing for you? I only had it for the first time recently when I came out of hospital and it was like someone stole all my feelings. I felt nothing....

Also, before, whenever I had anxiety (I have a really stressful job), I stopped all caffeine and alcohol. They are both terrible for dealing with stress. That is really hard for me as I have to drink with clients all the time and I loved to socialize with friends at the pub. I also love coffee in the morning.

Stopping both for a month or so might help.

Maybe you should try a little experiment on yourself. Give yourself a proper chance at stopping by waiting for a few months and see how you feel. Stop caffeine at the same time (that includes tea and green tea). After all, you live in a place when you can get it whenever you want so it's not going anywhere.... The price is anxiety for a little while.

Remember, you are meant to have some anxiety. You are 25 and looking for a job. You shouldn't numb that feeling because some of it will help drive you to succeed. The flipside to opiates is that they also rob you of the natural high when good things happen. If you make yourself artificially "fine" with all the bad things in your life then you'll never change them. you'll need a clear head for your new job too!!
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Drugs in the US are the same as the UK except for Vicodin (Hydrocodone) which is banned in the UK.

For some reason Codeine is the most common thing to send people home with after minor operations in the UK.

In the US they seem to send people home with Hydrocodone or Oxycodone.

They don't often prescribe anything stronger in the UK through NHS doctors. Might be a cost thing. For serious conditions, I have seen them prescribe oral morphine but I'm talking amputations etc...

Strangely though, they do prescribe Diamorphine in UK hospitals and I don't think they do in the US.
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hey just an update, i have now been clean for 7 days! Ive noticed quite a few changes in my life already. The 1st being abit crazy, when i took lots of codeine & fell asleep i would have terrible recurring nightmares, mainly that i was going to die if i didnt wake up & that the devil was waiting for me & i would have panic attacks through the night, now im not a religious person at all but these dreams scared me & i started going to bed with all sorts of religious stuff under my pillow just so i could sleep. I think this was my subconscious telling me i was killing myself. Anyway that hasnt happend for a week now & its good!! Today i have had a stressful day, very stressful, i had to go to a pharmacy to get some imodium & i didnt buy any nurofen plus! I didnt even realise until i left the pharmacy that it hadnt crossed my mind to get some while i was there. Result! Dont get me wrong, by time i got home i did start thinking about wanting some but then i realised i didnt actually feel that bad, i kind of feel ok. Ive told 3 people who i hang wiv the most that if they see me wiv any codeine they have permission to give me a slap but i dont think it will come to that. I feel very positive today, i know that lots of these posts are for the same kind of drugs but stronger quantities but you can do it. This board has been great for me when ive had moments of doubt, ive felt like i didnt want to let down the people who have helped me here. I hope this positivity continues. My gp has suggested i do some talking therapy for my anxiety, the waiting list for that is months though, i just hope i dont give in before i get the chance to do that. At the minute i dont think i will but things change dont they, i just hope i dont. Thanks guys
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hey just an update, i have now been clean for 7 days! Ive noticed quite a few changes in my life already. The 1st being abit crazy, when i took lots of codeine & fell asleep i would have terrible recurring nightmares, mainly that i was going to die if i didnt wake up & that the devil was waiting for me & i would have panic attacks through the night, now im not a religious person at all but these dreams scared me & i started going to bed with all sorts of religious stuff under my pillow just so i could sleep. I think this was my subconscious telling me i was killing myself. Anyway that hasnt happend for a week now & its good!! Today i have had a stressful day, very stressful, i had to go to a pharmacy to get some imodium & i didnt buy any nurofen plus! I didnt even realise until i left the pharmacy that it hadnt crossed my mind to get some while i was there. Result! Dont get me wrong, by time i got home i did start thinking about wanting some but then i realised i didnt actually feel that bad, i kind of feel ok. Ive told 3 people who i hang wiv the most that if they see me wiv any codeine they have permission to give me a slap but i dont think it will come to that. I feel very positive today, i know that lots of these posts are for the same kind of drugs but stronger quantities but you can do it. This board has been great for me when ive had moments of doubt, ive felt like i didnt want to let down the people who have helped me here. I hope this positivity continues. My gp has suggested i do some talking therapy for my anxiety, the waiting list for that is months though, i just hope i dont give in before i get the chance to do that. At the minute i dont think i will but things change dont they, i just hope i dont. Thanks guys
Hi in2deep
I'm proud of you.you have worked hard at this...
I am a religious person...it gives me great comfort too. He is there when I need him. I have not always been a good Christian but my heart is in the right place...
The one thing I think is funny about people that don't believe in GOD is...LOL
When the ground shakes everyone looks up
Be very proud of yourself.
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That's great! Well Done. I'm glad you didn't give in yesterday! You sound much stronger and positive today. Your story gives me hope too!
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thanks melinda, im proud of me too. I hope i can maintain it though! BUSINESSMAN1- are you going through withdrawal or trying to find a good time to try because of your job? Do you have a wife & kids? If so does she know of your problem. Im sorry for the spanish inquisition im just interested in your situation, i dont know as much as some people on this board but id like to try to help you like you have helped me
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I plan to start my w/d process next week. I had surgery last week for a herniated disk. I have been taking opiates for pain for the last 9 months. Hopefully, if my surgery has worked as planned, I won't be in pain any more.
I don't want to continue taking pain meds if I have no pain.

I have a long thread on the "Drugs Information" page on this site with my story. It's called "Becoming addicted to Oxycodone". A lot of people gave me some really good advice. I felt a bit alone with my problem before because all the other sites/blogs I found were written by serious Heroin junkies and people discussing crazy ways to get the best buzz. I couldn't relate to that at all.

But in short, I take way more than I need for my pain and it's starting to take over my life more than I'm comfortable with. Like you, I have become a little too attached to that comforting opiate feeling. I'm not saying I'm not in-pain but I'm using a fire hose to blow out a birthday cake candle. It's also affecting my relationship with my girlfriend. She's knows about my pain meds - we live in a new york apartment - it's hard to hide anything. I have those yellow pill bottles all over the place (literally). She doesn't get the problem she just wants her boyfriend back. I don't really like what I've become.
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Oh and don't worry about not knowing as much as others. I only know what I've had personal experience of. For me the benefit here is listening to what has helped others. Most people here are not medical professionals. I think there may be a few people who have had some formal training on these matters. That Robert325 guy seems to know a lot and gives pretty good advice.
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hey guys im having abit of a wobble today. Ive torn my house apart hoping that i would come across some codeine, i didnt & I feel so depressed about it. Im getting nervous because i have no diazepam left which was helping me through my wd. I know this is a good thing because i dont want a benzo problem but what am i going to do? Ive been crying a lot today, im really tired, i dont want you all to get the violins out for me but i feel this is futile. I know i've done well to get this far but im starting to wonder why i bothered to stop when i feel so miserable. Ive read back on my posts & they are so up & down. How long is this bollocks going to go on for? I just feel so low & down
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i have been reading online aboup post acute withdrawal syndrome which is more an pyschological withdrawal which occurs after the physical which can last for 3 years! Is this true anyone? Apparently you can be clean & just wake up one morning & have paws. Please can someone tell me if this is true. God i hope not.
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i have been reading online aboup post acute withdrawal syndrome which is more an pyschological withdrawal which occurs after the physical which can last for 3 years! Is this true anyone? Apparently you can be clean & just wake up one morning & have paws. Please can someone tell me if this is true. God i hope not.





PAWS is a reality. And it sucks! I relapsed once during PAWS. Thing is it usually affects only a small % of people and usually those who've used lots of drugs for many years. I had used pretty badly for over 35 years.

PAWS seemed to come up at around 60 days, 90 days for me. It always goes away even IF it does happen. It's not worth a relapse and really just an excuse to use. It was for me at least.

This is one of the reasons for working a good recovery program. Lots of things will tempt us to use again. Don't worry about it, just don't use no matter what. God bless.
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This w/d thing is full of suprises.... I hope you get through it!

Maybe your doc can prescribe you some more valium if it is helping you?

What happened with your job interview btw?

Just as a matter of interest, you said this is attempt number 4, what made you decide to stop?

And also, did something happen to make you cry today? or was it just the w/d feelings?
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i started crying over really stupid things like my boyf eating the last bit of bread, then i started crying because i was tired & i have loads to do. Im just being a cry-baby. My job interview was a load of misleading bull****, i got lost on an estate, or the ghetto i think is the term in US, got soaking wet & it took me all day to find my way bak home, i told them i didnt want job, there was no way i was walking around for 8 hours, even if i wasnt going thro wd id not hav done that. I stopped because i kept thinking i was going to die in my sleep, every night this would happen. The valium does help me alot but given my history i dont think i should continue to take it. Id rather relapse on codeine then have a benzo problem instead. Ive got myself in this pickle, its only me that can sort it out but now all i can think of is getting some : (
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i started crying over really stupid things like my boyf eating the last bit of bread, then i started crying because i was tired & i have loads to do. Im just being a cry-baby. My job interview was a load of misleading bull****, i got lost on an estate, or the ghetto i think is the term in US, got soaking wet & it took me all day to find my way bak home, i told them i didnt want job, there was no way i was walking around for 8 hours, even if i wasnt going thro wd id not hav done that. I stopped because i kept thinking i was going to die in my sleep, every night this would happen. The valium does help me alot but given my history i dont think i should continue to take it. Id rather relapse on codeine then have a benzo problem instead. Ive got myself in this pickle, its only me that can sort it out but now all i can think of is getting some





I'm not judging or picking at you, I really do care about the people here . I pray for everyone on the forum daily. I only tell you this because I don't want you to take what I say the wrong way. It's only by looking out for your best interest that I comment on this thread. I'm certainly not trying to impress anyone with my religion or anything like that when I mention praying. That's just my belief system working. Praying for another person (intercessory prayer) is the highest form of prayer in Christianity.

It's amazing how when we are abusing RX opiates, or when we are going through RX opiate detox, or when we are living a life of drama, etc ... it seems that things like the really bad interviews, getting lost and soaked in the rain unexpectedly, relationship problems get worse, we have crying fits and the list goes on and on of things that follow us around. And they all happen in a single day. Don't take this the wrong way please, I'm just trying to make a point.

I remember that it seemed like everything in my life was like a plot against me on a daily basis dealing with all the garbage. My point here is that after I had been clean for just a little while the drama and the hassles seemed to begin to lighten up drastically. Those problems were no longer following me around as I was clean and suddenly doing nothing to attract the problems. They just quit happening eventually for the most part, at least quit happening on a daily basis.

You're at a really critical crossroads right now. You've been talking each day for a few days now about going ahead and relapsing. You have said that you haven't given in (and that's great) but it sounds like you actually have a DESIRE to WANT to give up. Is that the case, do you really want to use the Codeine again? I know that you're aware what that will do to you.

I truly pray that you'll decide to stick this out as you have a great portion of this already behind you. But you need to make up your mind and go with your decision. Either put the pills out of your mind or use them one or the other. It's not worth it if you WANT TO use. Even if you get clean for a month, but then you still have that "wanting" to use you will end up relapsing eventually.

There is a difference in wanting pills vs having cravings for them. It sounds like your deal is just plain and simple wanting the pills. Is that correct? We can deal with cravings but you've got to want recovery or you're not ready.

These are some of the things we suggest recovery programs for. Doesn't matter if it's NA, AA, Celebrate Recovery, church, a combination or all the above. I know that I would have never made it through all this on my own with no help.

Don't blow off the valium because you think you'll get addicted. That will help you get over the codiene detox if you really want to do it. Taking valium for a very short time won't leave you addicted. That's a guarantee. I'll help you myself with it if you want. It won't happen. Don't say I can't take that as I'll get addicted, but then turn around and relapse on the codeine. That is making an excuse to give yourself a chance to relapse. Do you see what I'm saying? Be strong and let me know if I can help you in any way. God bless.
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thanks robert, your post didnt upset me, i understand completely what you are saying. The only thing that is stopping me from taking the pills is that if i do then why did i bother to put myself through this. This morning i woke up upset, when im upset i use to take codeine then bang, im not upset anymore. This is what i want to go away. I want to be clean. I know that you can't be fine all the time but i have been making myself artificially fine for so long i'm just trying to tell myself this is normal. Im speaking the thoughts im having on this board the minute they come in to my head, as you can tell i'm very up & down. I started to think that it could be alot worse, i could be addicted to heroin or crystal meth & look 20 years older than i am & have loads of spots : ). Although a few people know about what i am goin through i dont speak to them about it because although they try they just dont get it. This board has been my lifeline, without it i would given up on day 4 of wd, its now day 9. Although i feel sad, teary, restless, anxious im having an hour here or there where i feel normal & ok. Im trying to think of some hobbies i can start at home, dont want to go out with my friends, they take all sorts of drugs & that wont b good for me. I might start painting or something : ) i appreciate you helping me robert, im crying now- happy tears- i dont want to give in, i just want to learn to deal with all these emotions that ive blocked out for so long thats all without acquiring a substitute drug problem. Thanks x
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in2deep ... you're expressing the gratitude I was hoping you would share. That's the reason I posted what I did. I wanted you to see how lucky you really are. I can see that you realize that and that in itself should be enough to get you past these manic episodes up and down.

If this was really all that bad there would be no reason to stick it out. But your life is at stake and you have so much to live for clean, you're so close right now. Stay in touch. God bless.
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Going to bed every night worrying that you might die in your sleep doesn't sound like something you want to go back to! Not exactly the perfect life with no worries you've been remembering.

Strangely, I sort of know what you mean. I sometimes feel like that when I have too much Oxycodone. I feel like I can't breathe and I have an overwhelming urge to fall asleep but I'm not sure if it's "falling asleep" or "passing out". When this happens I keep waking myself us every few minutes because I'm scared that I'm not breathing.... This is much worse if I've been drinking and if I've had some cyclobenzaprine with it. Then I get this feeling that my brain wakes up but my body doesn't and I feel like I'm paralyzed - it's terrifying. I have to shake myself awake.

I am nowhere close to being an expert like Robert but I wanted to share something I saw on a documentary when I lived in London. There was some town in the UK (I forget which one) where they did an experiment by prescribing Heroin on the NHS for 6 months. They were focused on how it reduced the burglary rate in the area by 97%. I was interested in the stories of the people. Because they didn't have to spend all day steeling to by Heroin, they had time to get jobs. Once they had jobs, they had something to live for. Having a job significantly increased their chances of getting off Heroin. Before, whenever they had detoxed, they went back to the drugs because their lives still felt hopeless. With a job, they could pay their bills, get their families back - ie get something they didn't want to give up...

That was why I was encouraged when you were going for job interview for a position that excited you. I know you're not a "smack-head" etc but I'm a firm believer that having a job goes a long way to keeping us out of mischief. Being alone in the house all day can't be good for what you're trying to do. (maybe that's why some of the people on here turn to religion?)

When I was at college (Uni), I, like all my friends, smoked pot every day, took X and speed at the weekends and went out binge-drinking multiple times a week. I stopped all of that when I got my first job. I haven't even seen a joint for 9 years. I have responsibilities, important meetings to go to and big decisions to make that I need to be "on my game" for.

Even though a large part of me doesn't want to give up my Oxy, I know I need to - a key reason being my job. I am on the couch now recovering from my op trying to read contract. Before Oxy I would have been finished 2 days ago. With the Oxy I can't concentrate properly. Also, taking something that stops me being concerned about anything is not helping my decision making lately. Frankly, today, that cloudy feeling I normally love is just annoying me.

I guess this is a really long-winded way of saying don't give up on the job thing! In my view, you could really do with something positive to focus on right now like job-hunting. Also, you are right to stay away from friends who take lots of drugs. You may find that after a while you'll have nothing in-common with them anyway.

I hope you keep it up, as I said before, it gives me hope. No pressure!!
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that sleep thing you describe is the exact same as me! I can never tell if im awake & paralysed or dreaming. It feels like im awake & unable to move but i think it is a dream. I try to shout out to my boyf but nothing comes out. Ive only been out of work for about 2 weeks, i've always had a job & have run my own business, this one of reasons i decided to stop when i did. Being at home all day was bad enough on codeine never mind without but i am keeping busy. I think im goin to have these negative thoughts & want some pills but i just try occupy myself & i forget about it after a while. I have a new addiction now though, its these sweets i use to have as a kid which i just came across in a shop, im sure the cashier thinks i have 10 kids or something coz i have had some every day - they are so good!! & bring back happy memories! I dont think u - businessman1, robert or melinda have any idea what a positive effect your posts & support have had on my life, its amazing, your are thousands of miles away yet it feels like you are all right here helping me. Thanks guys, im so going to do this
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that sleep thing you describe is the exact same as me! I can never tell if im awake & paralysed or dreaming. It feels like im awake & unable to move but i think it is a dream. I try to shout out to my boyf but nothing comes out. Ive only been out of work for about 2 weeks, i've always had a job & have run my own business, this one of reasons i decided to stop when i did. Being at home all day was bad enough on codeine never mind without but i am keeping busy. I think im goin to have these negative thoughts & want some pills but i just try occupy myself & i forget about it after a while. I have a new addiction now though, its these sweets i use to have as a kid which i just came across in a shop, im sure the cashier thinks i have 10 kids or something coz i have had some every day - they are so good!! & bring back happy memories! I dont think u - businessman1, robert or melinda have any idea what a positive effect your posts & support have had on my life, its amazing, your are thousands of miles away yet it feels like you are all right here helping me. Thanks guys, im so going to do this



Don't be loading up on a bunch of sugar! That will turn you into a wire dog every time. That's a sure way to become extra hyper, just exactly what you DON'T need right now. I'm sure the sugar isn't the cause of all your problems. But when you're struggling you want to do EVERYTHING you can possibly do to make this as easy on yourself as possible.

Lay off the sweets, drink lots of water today, flush that garbage out of your system. Most people detoxing off opiates crave sugar. I would have mentioned that but I hadn't noticed you saying anything about this before. If you have I missed it. I bet you'll notice a difference just eliminating the sugar alone. I'm sure that will help you at least some. Let me know. God bless.
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We all post our junk here on the forum. You can post here or start your own thread if you like. That's how it helps people, everyone gets to see what's going on. It's also the only way I can keep up with people I talk to. I use the threads as notes. God bless.
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Yeah i tried to see if you could pm but i dont know why you cant do it on this site. Id post my details but i dont think you are allowed to do it plus i'd get the heebiegeebies that id get unwanted messages or that someone i know would read my post, saying that if someone i knew read this they would probably recognise it was me anyway. Hmmm it is a shame. I like people from across the pond, i like the way you say things, well probably not you coz your a guy but when the girls say stuff like "whateveeer" & all that hand shaking "oh no you didnt". Maybe i have seen films like white chicks & clueless too many times : )
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Don't be loading up on a bunch of sugar! That will turn you into a wire dog every time. That's a sure way to become extra hyper, just exactly what you DON'T need right now. I'm sure the sugar isn't the cause of all your problems. But when you're struggling you want to do EVERYTHING you can possibly do to make this as easy on yourself as possible.

Lay off the sweets, drink lots of water today, flush that garbage out of your system. Most people detoxing off opiates crave sugar. I would have mentioned that but I hadn't noticed you saying anything about this before. If you have I missed it. I bet you'll notice a difference just eliminating the sugar alone. I'm sure that will help you at least some. Let me know. God bless.
Hey, no i dont think i mentioned i was eating a load of sweets, eating a load of everything in fact, i havent eaten any sugary, junky stuff since i read your post earlier & i actually do feel alot less jittery for it so cheers robert, i might rename you master yoda because you seem to know alot about everything! Btw i found some codeine in my house earlier, about 100mg & guess what......i put it straight in bin.....progress!
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Yeah I wouldn't want to put my details on an open forum either (or my real name).

I don't always like posting on an open forum when I just want to know how someone is doing. Maybe they'll change the rules...
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Old 05-22-2009, 10:25 PM
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Hey, no i dont think i mentioned i was eating a load of sweets, eating a load of everything in fact, i havent eaten any sugary, junky stuff since i read your post earlier & i actually do feel alot less jittery for it so cheers robert, i might rename you master yoda because you seem to know alot about everything! Btw i found some codeine in my house earlier, about 100mg & guess what......i put it straight in bin.....progress!
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Master yoda...That was a good one...it pretty much sums it up...
Im glad your starting to feel better...
Keep up the good work...

Talk to you later, Melinda
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Old 06-01-2009, 03:44 PM
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I'm not judging or picking at you, I really do care about the people here . I pray for everyone on the forum daily. I only tell you this because I don't want you to take what I say the wrong way. It's only by looking out for your best interest that I comment on this thread. I'm certainly not trying to impress anyone with my religion or anything like that when I mention praying. That's just my belief system working. Praying for another person (intercessory prayer) is the highest form of prayer in Christianity.

It's amazing how when we are abusing RX opiates, or when we are going through RX opiate detox, or when we are living a life of drama, etc ... it seems that things like the really bad interviews, getting lost and soaked in the rain unexpectedly, relationship problems get worse, we have crying fits and the list goes on and on of things that follow us around. And they all happen in a single day. Don't take this the wrong way please, I'm just trying to make a point.

I remember that it seemed like everything in my life was like a plot against me on a daily basis dealing with all the garbage. My point here is that after I had been clean for just a little while the drama and the hassles seemed to begin to lighten up drastically. Those problems were no longer following me around as I was clean and suddenly doing nothing to attract the problems. They just quit happening eventually for the most part, at least quit happening on a daily basis.

You're at a really critical crossroads right now. You've been talking each day for a few days now about going ahead and relapsing. You have said that you haven't given in (and that's great) but it sounds like you actually have a DESIRE to WANT to give up. Is that the case, do you really want to use the Codeine again? I know that you're aware what that will do to you.

I truly pray that you'll decide to stick this out as you have a great portion of this already behind you. But you need to make up your mind and go with your decision. Either put the pills out of your mind or use them one or the other. It's not worth it if you WANT TO use. Even if you get clean for a month, but then you still have that "wanting" to use you will end up relapsing eventually.

There is a difference in wanting pills vs having cravings for them. It sounds like your deal is just plain and simple wanting the pills. Is that correct? We can deal with cravings but you've got to want recovery or you're not ready.

These are some of the things we suggest recovery programs for. Doesn't matter if it's NA, AA, Celebrate Recovery, church, a combination or all the above. I know that I would have never made it through all this on my own with no help.

Don't blow off the valium because you think you'll get addicted. That will help you get over the codiene detox if you really want to do it. Taking valium for a very short time won't leave you addicted. That's a guarantee. I'll help you myself with it if you want. It won't happen. Don't say I can't take that as I'll get addicted, but then turn around and relapse on the codeine. That is making an excuse to give yourself a chance to relapse. Do you see what I'm saying? Be strong and let me know if I can help you in any way. God bless.
Hi, im wondering if someone can give me some advice. I have been clean from codeine for almost 3 weeks. During this 3 weeks ive been taking valium everyday prescribed by my doc. Now all i can think about is valium, i have 2 2mg tablets left & cant get anymore until wednesday. Im not a drinker but ive drunk more in the last few days than i have in 3 years aswell as taking the valium, 4mg 3 times a day. Im just wondering if some one could tell me how long it takes to get addicted to valium?? I have 50mg of codeine in my house, this is comforting to me because i know tomorrow i wont have any valium, i dont think i want to take this but i jus dont know how im going to feel. Im starting to wonder whether im getting myself in a worse situation than i was in to begin. Any suggestions? Thanks
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You shouldn't be mixing alcohol and valium. That can be fatal. Not saying you will die, just saying it's NOT a smart thing to do. I would stop the alcohol if I was going to take valium.

You can develop a dependency to valium in less than a month. Benzos are dangerous, very addictive. Drs pass those stupid things out like candy, pi$$es me off. I would knock off the valium NOW. If you don't you will likely get yourself in another mess and valium detox is worse than codiene I promise you.

I'm not saying take the codiene, you've got to accept that you're going to be uncomfortable for a few days. Just knock off taking all this stuff and stay clean. You'll feel better in a few days if you STOP and don't continue this craziness any longer.

You shouldn't be needing the drugs/alcohol after three weeks clean. Have you ever considered getting yourself to a NA meeting? That is what I would suggest, get yourself invovled in recovery. Getting clean is easy, staying clean is another matter. God bless.
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Old 06-01-2009, 05:26 PM
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right ok then, thanks robert, when i told my doc about my codeine prob valium is what she prescribed me, i didnt ask for it. I just wanted to know how long it took to get addicted to it, you said not to stop the valium in an earlier post but i get what you are saying about mixing it with alcohol. It answered my question anyway so thanks for taking the time to post me a reply : )
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