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Wow, this place is hopping! Thanks for the reply baby steps. I'm feeling a little better. I've been a junkie for a long, long time, so I realize that relapses happen....I've not put myself on the whipping post, just going to stay clean today. Hope everyone is doing ok |
Customer Service Pyshcos Hey babysteps, Ya know, I keep wanting to say, "hey baby"...but then I think.."Ok, that sounds like I'm writing you a hot and heavy letter...":p "oooh yeah...(insert 70's porn music here!) I didn't know you were in the hotel industry! I worked in a couple of them for a while, Doubletree, and The Omni here in Cincinnati. I was cracking up about the broom/dustpan story! Too Funny!! Like, Ummm...ok, just why exactly would we want your broom maam? I actually met my husband while I was a desk clerk. We had gotten 8' snow, and he couldn't make it home to centerville, oh..so he needed a room. Love at first sight! That was18 years ago. There was a woman who called AA to complain because the flight attendents wouldn't let her into the galley to make her own tuna casserole. (She had brought her own tuna and stuff) ANd then..one of my personal faves. All the dog lovers will just Loooove this one. This woman didn't want to pay the 50.00 fee for bringing her small dog into the cabin, and she didn't want to put him in a carrier under the seat, so on the day of departure she had her dog sedated, then wrapped him around her neck as if he were a fur stole and then when he woke up and peed on her she tried to have AA pay her drycleaning bill. Uh..sure lady, because you're not a psychotic witch or anything who doesn't even derserve to have an animal! Yeesh. Sorry guys...just got carried away, babysteps' broom/dustpan/jewelry story had me rolling! Hey b/s...you're a psych major or something like that, right? What would be your best response to the passengers who still throw what happened on Sept 11 in my face? I've actually had people say it was "my" fault. Meaning AA's fault...Any thoughts? Happens at least once a month. Thanks! Gen |
Hey abt. the Pups,they are just abt.4 weeks,I was looking at a site that showed german shepperds,it showed some pups and they look just like mine,I will have the pics up this coming week 1 day,each has its own personality and its starting to show really good,I want to put a colored ribbon on them and some info abt the personalities...then I will e-mail them to you and who ever else is interested in seeing them,later,Tammy!! |
OMG Scared talk about laughing my butt off!!! The Doggy Scarf has to be the funniest one yet!!!! TOO FUNNY!!! As far as the ignorant people who can't get over 9/11... I think they are lonely people who just LOVE drama in their life and are always the ones who blame other people for their own shortcomings!! I actually had the 3 terrorists that ended up on the Dulles flight living in my hotel for 3 months prior to them getting on that plane that ended up crashing into the Pentagon! Was that my fault?? That I didn't interrogate them or suspect something wrong because they had a no service sign on their door everyday? No, it wasn't but if you'd ask those people who blame you and AA they would probably say it was my fault and if I had not let them stay at my property they wouldn't have done what they did. When the simple truth is this... had I not let them stay they would have stayed somewhere else like even if AA had caught on... they would've just used another airline! Now we "Normal" people know this but "Those" people don't want to admit that no matter what... that day was well thought out and was gonna happen no matter what. That's one lesson we in our free America learned that day and have made many changes in especially our industry to prevent. It's just unfortunate it took this tragedy to wake us in America up! I just can't believe you still get those comments! Unbelievable! Just makes you want to say "Why, if that bothers you so much... are you using our airline?" Ya know! It's obvious they are just looking for a reaction. It also makes me feel very blessed to me somewhat NORMAL!!! LOL And I know I'll never use that airline again but not because of 9/11... LOL LOL Unless of course you can get me a free ride!! LOL One thing I did learn in Psychology that I'll share with you that I found oh so interesting... As it was one of our studies and we as a class wrote and published a study on. It is regarding what a man usually looks for in a woman. Let's see if I can explain this... When a boy is in his 2 or 2nd year of life, what his mother looks like and is like personally is what he usually ends up looking for in a woman. Of course none of us believed this and were asked to go around the campus and home or out and about and ask 10 people each who were married to provide a picture of him and his mother when he was 2 and to answer a few pre scripted questions about her. Then to provide a few pics of his wife and answer the same questions about his wife that he answered about his mother and it was UNBELIEVABLE!!! The study provided a 98.3% similarity in the 2! The ones who did not fit we were then sent back to have them answer different questions and we found that those who didn't fit... married someone they either got pregnant and married out of doing the right thing, they married because they felt pressured or it was arranged and not the one they truly loved but grew to love in a different way! Isn't that amazing! I didn't mean to take up so much space here but had to share that study as I and my class found it to be astounding!! Thanks for the laugh Scared!!! And isn't the hotel industry fun? I think our Tamm worked for a Hilton as well... which I bet she fit in perfectly because she is also such a people person!!! The guests probably loved her too!! |
Hey Tamm... It's like waiting for Christmas morning... as far as waiting on those pics woman!! LOL No really... I'm patient... I just know that they probably look so cute as puppies and wanted to see all the fur! LOL Like My retriever/Lab pups were so adorable when they were pups... you know... they use them all over advertising spoofs because they are just sooo cute (the lab/retriever). I really really want one but I'm all alone here and afraid I wouldn't have the time to house train it... which makes me so sad because I want one so so bad!!! Maybe I should adopt one that's house trained already. :( Anyway... Just take your time sweetie!!! |
B/S...if i remember correctly kai is the boss!! ( am i right kai)..so i think he'll be ok!..it's funny cause i rember kai always saying that the pills gave him the energy of a much younger man..well im in my forties, and w/o the pills i feel it!..i never felt my age..and i have done physical work all my life...now w/o the pills..this 47 yr old is feeling..well 47!...hate that!..oh..btw..lisa is doing good..she has been very busy w/ work, and mom stuff...she has stayed clean thru it all!..her mom will be moved to a facility where she can get full time PT...lisa is dealing w/ all that now. i also told her how difficult/time-consuming its been trying to log back on here~~that might of scared her .everyone..i'm always checking in..and i am truly happy for everyone..H/L~~you seem better..kai~~ well.. WOW!......tamm~ continue w/ your taper..believe it or not..dropping a full 2mgs will not even be noticed..try it...it gets harder when your down really low..then you feel a difference, but if you get down to 6mgs..i can promise you , you wont feel any different..~~baby..you are really doing well..anytime someone has legit pain, and is refraining..well i am amazed!... |
Baby Steps' "study" s**t my sons are screwed!!!! |
NY!!! Girl... You just had me LAUGHING OUTLOUD!!!! Thank you I needed that! And Thank you so much for the Lisa Girl update! Tell her we love her and will patiently await her return!! And I'm so glad you made it back in as it just wouldn't be the same w/o you!!! And trust me there are days I am ready to jump off a bridge from the pain but it really helps being able to work from home on those days as my company has been truly accomodating... Thank God! They must really love me because the truck accident happened while I was just the GM at my Residence Inn and they were so very supportive and wouldn't let me resign.... Blessed I tell you... Truly Blessed!!! In fact I was promoted to the regional position as well... But trust me... those bad days are NO cakewalk. I know what you mean by feeling every bit your age!! I'm 46 and feel every bit of it as well most of the time now!!! LOL Or it may be because my kids LOVE to remind me of it everytime I try to be cool! LOL Just kidding of course... :D |
Am I The Boss? nymommy: That's what I always thought but I've grown to realize that the client is always the boss. I do get to sign the checks though.:) |
Hi,Lori and Nymommy..lori ,I read where I think it was Tom and Kia talking abt.acupuncture!You know I really believe it would work,you just have to have faith and believe....I bet if you went 1 time Lori you would love it....Try it ,ok then let me know how it goes,Well ,Nymommy how are you,girly?Yes,Lori is right you are a big help to me I just try to follow your progress and imput,Thanks,love Ya,,,well anyways,Carson and I are doing to the Marriott in florence,Al.Its pretty new and its georgeous!!!My step daughter is having her lil daughters b-day party there tonite,got to find some swimming stuff,theyhave a beautiful indoor swimming pool and hot tub...I'm Going in abt an hour its abt.12 min. from my house.chat w/ya'll later,Tamm |
Hey Baby Steps. As always, thank you so much for thinking about me and asking how I am. You are an absolutely wonderful person. I hope you know that and I hope you know I am sincere when I say that. My husband and I have had a busy day today and we're not done yet! We have to run back out after spending the day in Montgomery shopping for a new washing machine. Hi, Kai, Hate/love, Syd, Coming Home, Tom, NY Mommy and Tamm! Praying all is well! |
Look at you Lyds!!! Hey Lyds!!! Look at you girl!!! 28 days and going strong!!! WOW!! I'm so proud of you girl! Thank you so much for your oh so sweet words! You simply rock my friend! ;) So a new washer huh!? I hope that doesn't mean you had to go very long with out one... That would be a bitter sweet thing ... sweet because you would have an excuse for not doing laundry... bitter because it's still gonna be there when you get the new one!!! :) Were you guys able to find one? Ya know... everytime I see a spot on the TV regarding Anna Nicole Smith... I thank God that we all have each other for support so none of us will ever end up like that! What a sad story... I hope you and your husband have an awesome night and day tomorrow!! I'm sure you had a great Valentine day!! ;) Thank you again sweetie for making my day!!! Luv ya!! |
Hey Tamm... Hey Sweetie!! Thank you so much for caring about me and my off and on misery! I actually never thought acupuncture worked but now that you all have mentioned it... I might as well give it a shot huh? I mean what could it hurt? (Except there's just something unnatural about needles sticking out of your body... LOL) (And I hate needles!!! LOL) But I'll let you know what I find out and how it goes if I decide to do it. Thank you so much Tamm!! You are a sweetheart too!! I am so blessed to have so many caring peeps here that truly care about me. Because I certainly hope you all know how much I really care about each one of you!!! I really look forward to knowing how everyone is doing everyday and I get worried when I don't hear from some of you for a while... So Thanks Sweetie! I Luv ya girl!!! |
Hi Hi. It's great to see a whole new crew of message carriers, carrying the message of hope and support, and bringing some out of the darkness and into the light. The more clean time I get, the more my active addiction seems like a distant memory, or maybe even like a different life. Addiction is so tricky, and I don't blame those who have never experienced it and their confusion as to why we act the way we do. It truly is a disease, and we cannot get better on our own. Like those with other diseases, we need treatment, and some of the best treatment lies in the support AND the supporting of others. We can't keep what we have without giving it away. That is what I have found, in any case. Sponsoring others has been one of the greatest blessings, and it is the primary thing keeping me clean. I am not ashamed to be an addict for I have arrested my addiction, and it has given me something that I never had BEFORE I started using: Helping fellow humans and doing service for the sake of service. Whatever I have left over at the end of the day, I try to give to the one who REALLY keeps me clean. God. God bless you all on this board. Kai, someone like you needs to take the leadership like you have. Baby Steps, you are always so thoughtful and caring for others on this board. Tamara, Lyds, NYmommy, Ohio, Hate/love, Junkie, and everyone else who has contributed. Thank you!!! You are all doing a service for yourself and for mankind. I went back and read a bunch of pages, and I love the direction this board has taken. I will try to "check in" from time to time. Now... where is my old crew? It's great to see a whole new crew on here, but I get concerned when I don't see many of the old timers. Say a prayer for the still sick and suffering addicts outside and inside this forum. God bless... Chrish |
My Suboxone Experience - Warning To All I just came across this site and it seems like a great support system for addicts...like me. I have been clean for over a year now, still fighting urges though. I have seen a lot of mention of Suboxone/Subutex. I am here to tell you the TRUTH about this drug...from PERSONAL experience. First, a little background. I used vics for about 5 years or so, along with cocain, weed, and really whatever else I could find, but vicodin was my main staple drug. Towards the end of my use, I was taking 4 10/500 vics at a time and a total of 25-30 per day just to feel "normal". I got sick of being a slave to the drug and being broke all the time. At 2-3 bucks per pill, well, you do the math. A friend of mine was in a similar situation and his doctor prescribed him Suboxone. He told me about it telling me it is the "miracle drug" as he felt no withdrawl whatsoever. I thought this was a great way to quit vicodin so he began to split his monthly script with me every month. I took two Suboxone's daily, they are small orange pills which disolve under your tongue. I took one in the morning, one at dinner. He was right, no withdrawl..at all. In fact, I even caught a bit of a buzz from them, I thought this was a great added bonus. My friend's doctor explained that these were not narcotics but simply mimicked the effect and affecting the opiate receptors of the body. The doctor continued by saying that when you are ready to come off Suboxone, you will feel mild withdrawl, but nothing like the withdrawl of coming of vicodin. Now, I have gone without vicodin before and know that withdrawl. I don't need to explain it cuz all here know it very well. The worst...am I right? Of course I am. So I thought, well I have gone through that, so a mild version I can handle eventually when I am ready. About six months after beginning Suboxone, I moved across the country. I had an arrangement with my friend where he would send my Suboxone every month. This worked out well for two months. But suddenly, one of his shipments didn't show up. He said he sent it, but I never got it. It was my second week with a new job and I was without Suboxone. OH MY GOD! I was terrified. I will say this quickly as I have rambled on for while now. THE WITHDRAWL I FELT FROM SUBOXONE WAS TEN TIMES WORSE THAN THAT I EVER FELT WITH VICODIN. Read that again. The withdrawl from vicodin lasted about three days for me. The withdrawl from Suboxone lasted TWO WEEKS!!! Keep in mind, I was on my second week at a new job going through horrible withdrawls. Not only was it longer, but it was just as intense. Every day I would hope that would be the day the Suboxone would show up in my mailbox, but they never did. I would go three, four nights in a row without sleep, then on the fifth night, I would pass out from pure exaustion. The withdrawl never got lighter or less severe, it just suddenly stopped. TWO WEEKS LATER. That experience was the WORST thing I have ever gone through. My point. DO NOT TAKE SUBOXONE IF YOU WANT TO COME OFF OF VICODIN. You have to quit cold turkey, there is no easy way to do it. Take some Valium for sleep if you can get it, but that's it. Fact: Bupe (appreviation for the active ingredient in Suboxone) IS AN OPIATE!!! In fact, it is one of the strongest opiates available. That is why you only need an 8mg dose per day. And if you try to take vicodin shortly after taking Suboxone, you will need to take a lot to feel even the slightest buzz, because the Bupe is such a strong opiate. Sorry for taking up so much space, but I felt ppl must be warned. Stay away from Suboxone. Trust me.....please. |
Hi chris1,glad you are doing good,,keep it up!!!hi ,Wolverine,Im on sub and I really do dread getting off this sh-t!!!Thay say just do a very slow taper and it won't be so bad ,Right! I wish I just would of gone c/t,but There was no way,not with small kids and no help from ole' hubbie,it was either sub or try the methadone ,again and that is pretty bad ,they say sub is methadone's lil sister,I was on 16mgs for 3 months,now on 8mgs for the next 3 months,we'll see how it goes,I think you are doing great and am glad you are finally feeling better after the sub.Take care Tamm. |
darn it every time i type a message it goes away....somewhere..... and i have had to fix two virus on my computer since this new forum wtf?????? i am getting annoyed here and about to give it up. the dog scarf thing made me throw up i laughed so hard, scared. omg! i read everybodies post and sounds like u guys are doin pretty good for the most part. i am pluggin along but still fighting the cravings really badly. i think it is emotional pretty much. i need fresh air and sunshine and i just can't get it. well, spring is just around the corner. TAM i can't wait to see those pups. my daughter thinks ur son is a hottie by the way. |
Day 2 so far so good Chris1 - I remember you. I was here when this thread only had about 12 pages. AMAZING how much it has grown. It just goes to show how diabolically evil, cunning, baffling and powerful addiction can be. I had stopped counting the months....I was, oh, I'd guess 8 or 9 months free of pills. Everything was fine. Job was going well, home life going well, no problems at all. Then, one day, out of nowhere, it occurred to me that I could take pills "recreationally" Yeah, right (rolls eyes) This little relapse really helped me to realize that the old saying is true: One is too many and a thousand are never enough. So, anyway, this time around, my usage didn't get anywhere near as bad as it did last time. Last time I was bed-ridden on my second day without any percs, this time, I'm definitely feeling a little tense, and having some trouble sleeping, but I'm functional. I'm going to try to stay plugged in here for a while. And I need to get back into counseling. I had found a counselor and was seeing him once per week, but stopped seeing him....I don't think it's a coincidence that I started using again within a month of stopping counseling, so, I'm going back, but I didn't really like the guy I had, so I'm going to try to find someone different. Anyway, I'm hanging in there. Hope everyone is doing ok, and just try to remember that as each day passes it gets a bit easier.... |
chrish1: You're still the board president. :) :) Good to see you post again. I couldn't begin to guess how many you have helped over the years with your sound advice and great example. junkie781: I remember you from a long, long time ago..................... when I was posting under another name. Like you, (although I never enjoyed the number of clean days you did), I stumbled and when I came back, just used another screen name. It's good to see you restart your efforts. |
Hi all,Hey,H/L how are you doing today??Ya my son is a really cool kid ,I am so proud of him ,even though he's 16 going on 20 ,did your daughter check out his my space,pretty wild ,huh?? The girls really like him ,he has alot of friends that are girls,the guys aren't to keen abt. that ,they get jealous,talk to u soon,Tamm |
Hey Chrish1 and Junkie Hey Chrish1... Glad to see you pop in again!!! BTW... CONGRATULATIONS on your clean time!!! What a feat! And I remember your life wasn't exactly a cakewalk there for a while and you still held on!!! Excellent!!! YOU ROCK! I remember you back with Girly Girl, Not so clueless in NJ, et al... You have always been a solid rock for many. Can I ask you Chrish1... why did you slip away? How have you been? I know the divorce went ok and you see your kids often but what about the rest of your life... work, support group, church etc... I often wonder how you are. Even though I only registered in December... I was a passionate lurker for quite a while!! I'm so happy for you! And Junkie... I really don't like your name because I think it places a stigma to you... No offense because you are still you but I refuse to call you Junkie I'll call you J... ok? I ahev already responded to you back on the previous page but I want to repeat myself here with... I AM SO PROUD OF YOU AS WELL!!!! You can't look back anymore... why? Because you can't change the past... But you can learn from it and move on... And it looks like that is what you're doing and I am so very proud of you for doing it and coming back here for support! It doesn't matter who's on the board... we are all here for the same reason... And as I've learned... even the old posters will lurk... so I shout out to all of you lurkers and hope all is well with your lives and please come in and say hey every now and then... ;) Chrish and Junkie... don't be a stranger boys!!! Luv Ya Guys!!! |
Hey Tamm... HL.... KAI KAI... SYD Girl... NY... Lisa Girl (I sent you an e-mail back) Tom and Yes... coming hime!!! (Where the heck are you boy??) LYDS (You and Tamm are my Ala Girlz) Like GRITS Do you guys know what that stands for??, Scared Ohio(my AA Girl) and I know I've missed my other girl but can't remember your SN right now but you know who you are... The one who has the awesome husband... I'll get used to all the names one of these days... It's so awesome that our family is growing so fast and furious!!! I want to wish you all and those I forgot a great and Super Fantastic (the Marriott Saying) Day!!! I have to go take the boys to the Sk8 park... I'll be back later!! Love ya so much guys!!! |
Snoogan's All! I'm still alive! |
well thats always good to hear tom! lol. i am too! i've been reading, just not posting as much b/c of trouble with my computer, but i love u guys just as much!! |
wow b/s you must've been reading for a long time...those names you threw out were a while ago...and yes chrish1 is a testament of sorts..it is about giving back!..not that i am anywhere near chrishs' clean time, but i do feel a reponsibility to post to a newbie who is in a place that i so cleary remember..~~wolverine...sounds like you were forced to c/t off the sub...big difference..a slow taper is doable..but to jump at 4 mgs, not so much!..still i cant say i would be a spokesperson for suboxone, but i managed to get off it, i did have w/ds..not horrible, but not easy either...about 2 weeks of depression and goose bumps.. fatigue...i think suboxone is a good choice for someone who simply can not go c/t..( a mom, for example).. |
Baby Steps: Thank you for the 28 day recognition. There were times I wondered if I was even going to make it to 28 days! I like to attribute some of my success to you wonderful people........We weren't without a washing machine. My old one was making some kind of funky noises, however, so it wasn't going to be long until we were without one.........GRITS = Girls Raised In The South, right? Oh, and luv ya right back! Chrish: Thank you for your kind words, and God's blessings to you, too. Like you, I wouldn't have gotten through this time without Him. And, of course, the wonderful support of the awesome people here. Thanks for posting. Your clean date is impressive and it gives us hope! Junkie781: Thank you, also for posting and sharing your story. 2 days!! WAY TO GO. You don't need me to tell you it's certainly an awesome thing you're doing. I figured it couldn't hurt to hear it from me, however. ;) To everyone else, hope you day was great and that your evening is even better! |
hi,Lyds!!! Hope all is going well,where the heck is everyone ,today??? HEEELLLLLOOOO!!!!! Out There anyone home????????Tamm |
HEY,Babysteps,I see you lurking,just checked the who's on line,lol,.,,.What you doin!!!!!Tamm |
Yay Lyds!! Yep Lyds!! You got it... Girls Raised In The South! You win the prize!!! Another clean day!!! I know that's tacky and something you gave yourself but it's all I could think of and something you should be so proud of!!! Pushing 1 MONTH!!! You Rock Girl!!! Hey HL... what are you up to now? 3 weeks??? Look at you too missy!!! Time sure does fly when your having fun! I'm so proud of you too!!! Keep on Truckin girl!!! Hey NY... Don't underestimate your power of persuasion!!! You have come so far!! And it wasn't easy but you are living proof that tapering off of Sub is possible! That's so awesome!!! I hope everyone had a great weekend and will have a good week!! |
Tamm I thought you were ignoring me... I've tried chatting with ya all day today and yesterday...:confused: I've been pretty much off and on all day... so what did you do today girl? Anything exciting? Are you here for a while? |
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