http://www.drugs.com/forum/ General support and advice forum. Constructive advice only please. en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:50:00 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.drugs.com/forum/images/misc/rss.jpg http://www.drugs.com/forum/ http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/god-why-so-hard-get-clean-opiates-54826.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:35:20 GMT i wish there was something i could do so bad to just get me thru this. i was clean for right at six days and i cracked and the last two days i was... i wish there was something i could do so bad to just get me thru this.
i was clean for right at six days and i cracked and the last two days i was back to taking percocet again. This morning i got rid of the rest of them i had tho and havent taking any again since last night but i do this to myself and i just cant understand why i have to go back to them. I am a very strong person and this is the only thing in my life i have ever had a problem beating but i will oh yes i know i will because i know i can. ]]> Need to Talk? abritt121222 http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/god-why-so-hard-get-clean-opiates-54826.html http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/drug-interaction-contradiction-54824.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:16:14 GMT hi, i want to call a web service in my application for Drug interaction and contradiction. can you please tell me from where i can get... hi,

i want to call a web service in my application for Drug interaction and contradiction.

can you please tell me from where i can get this.....


Thanks ]]> Need to Talk? Parvaiz http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/drug-interaction-contradiction-54824.html http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/another-success-story-54823.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:48:38 GMT I just wanted to put this out there. Years ago after a few unsuccessful tries at kicking pain killers. I relized this was no joke and I was in for... I just wanted to put this out there. Years ago after a few unsuccessful tries at kicking pain killers. I relized this was no joke and I was in for the ride of my life. I could tell this was by no means going to be easy. After asking any one I knew that was ever involved with pain killers, if they knew anyone that quit and actually reamained clean. Well, there really were not to many success stories and it completley freaked me out! Basically I thought I was ruined for life. I went to google and typed in success stories on beating vicodin addiction. It took me to a DDC forum. I can remember asking Robert in one of my first posts about people that actually beat this thing. I really needed to hear some positive stories about people having long term success. His answer was most people who are clean today are not around and have moved on with thier lives. I know there are a handful of people around who have some long term time under thier belt. And a bunch who are on thier way! And that is great! I just wanted to share a quick story about a good friend of mine who has done an awesome job and has been a great inspiration to me. Besides the great people I have met here, she is the only other person I have to really talk to about this stuff. She was using 12-15 Vics a day for 5 years strait. Plenty of time to get your body and brain messed up on this garbage. After she had enough, she went and got on Suboxone and got clean. Her doctor also started her out on way to much and told her he wanted her on it for life with her amount of using. She quickly relized that he was crazy and she droped her dose as low as she could to remain stable. She did stay on Suboxone for close to two years. She told me she felt like that was the best option for her to learn how to live a clean life again. Basically learning how to start over. She put together her own taper near two years her self with out the doctor knowing. She has not touched a Vic or a Sub after her taper in over two years!!! She moved on with her life and has a great paying job. Stories like this where what I needed years ago and what I still need today! I am sure there are people out there lurking or even some of us on the forum now that are still wondering, can I really beat this? Obviously we know its possible and know there are people out there like Robert and some of the others who have that long term clean time. It just always makes me happy to hear as many success stories as possible. I know it helps me, and I hope this will give someone else something to look forward to. Sometimes it seems impossible and so far out of reach. Personally I do not go to meetings, I am sure there are a ton of people out there who have beat this for a long time. But this one hits home with me. Another success story around here could never hurt! So I hope this one will make someone smile, and get them started, or keep them moving down the right path! It is possible to get, and remain clean! ]]> Need to Talk? dago77 http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/another-success-story-54823.html http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/life-hard-54821.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:23:56 GMT Even though I have already posted a thread of my relapse, I felt the need to post another. With my only being clean for a short time, I am also going... Even though I have already posted a thread of my relapse, I felt the need to post another. With my only being clean for a short time, I am also going through a VERY stressful time, and my entire family is. I am not going to get into the whole matter and share everything, that doesn't matter anyways. It's just very hard and tempting at times when life get's really bad.

I am proud of myself for being clean, but all this guilt over the time is just flushing all over me. This has been such a long, process for me. Since I have chronic pain, from a injury 3 years ago to this day am still suffering. I am only 26 years old and have two small children that not only need me mentally but physically.

So at the moment my situation is not only a financial one, but also a mental and very depressing one. I try to be as strong as I can, but last night I just brokedown. I believe in God and know that things can and do work out in time, but why does everything have to happen all at once. And for what purpose. I know only God knows the answer to that, but I wish I had some kind of option for my situation.

I suppose now being older and realizing it that this is part of life, had I only had the chance to stay a kid forever, lol.

Anyhow, I'm really down and I'm not asking for pity or sympathy, but I felt the need to get it out there and since here is the only place I can I decided to do it. I am to young to feel this way, although we never know when God will take us if I am capable of living a long life, I want to be happy. I do have many things I am blessed and greatful for, but also that I wish wasn't there.

Hope everyone out there is having a much better day than me. ]]> Need to Talk? no_more_tram http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/life-hard-54821.html http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/robert_325-please-respond-54820.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:11:46 GMT Ok, so here I go, and please forgive me for any grammar or misspellings due to me just being so emotionally down I am just trying to get htis out of... Ok, so here I go, and please forgive me for any grammar or misspellings due to me just being so emotionally down I am just trying to get htis out of me.

SWIM began using oxycontin recreationally once a week allmost 11 months ago. As with everyone else this gradually increased. So August arrives and I am a college student graduating soon. I begin to us on a everyday basis around 30-60mg. This goes on for a couple of months , but im sure as you know once everyday intake happens tolerance increases. At this point im up to around 60-150 mgs a day which has been goin on for about a month or two of that level. When i say 150 though that happens rarely maybe once a week at that level. Normally its around 60-80. I have read your help responses for months now just reading and wanting help so bad. I just never could get myself to post. I have seen how much support you give and how much you help people. I know that you are busy with people asking for your help as you have become sort of a celebrity due to you being such a great help to so many people. I just need your help and I want to quit this. Its not cuz im losing my family or loved ones or doing terribly in school. In fact, im excelling in all those areas. Thats not the point I want to quit for me because I dont want these pills controlling my life and I know even if its not causing problems now it soon will. I have been an avid weed smoker. drinker, and coke addict all before. Gladly to say i have not touched cocaine in 1 yr 2 months this month. I have virtually given up drinking and smoking other then occasionally maybe once or twice a month. This is the last demon I must defeat. Please help!! I understand if you are too busy but I cant do this alone and I need a person who can be a guide to my recovery. I just need a response I will provide you with any info you need to help just please respond if you are able to help. ]]> Need to Talk? JaiHova http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/robert_325-please-respond-54820.html http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/i-need-some-advice-stories-dealing-xanax-withdrawal-54813.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:57:21 GMT Long title I know, sorry.

After a long Xanax binge about four days ago now, I'm still dealing with the withdrawal symptoms. Unfortunately the only way for me to taper of is to use the same prescription that I was previously abusing (this is a bottle of 140 1mg pills and it's sitting on my damned dresser like a vulture).

I weigh about 115lbs(?) maybe less, I don't worry about scales nor do I see any point in owning one. Point being, I was taking upwards of 20-30mg of alprazolam (Xanax) every time I had my prescription. I'm guessing that someone in my immediate family was either an alcoholic or partied with some pretty serious drugs for none of that to have killed me.
I dealt without the pills for about thirty hours until the withdrawal set in (if you've been through this, you know what I mean... it's a bit different for everyone, but either way it's a nightmare).


I'd love any comments or personal stories from anyone who's willing to share. I've been on this forum before.. I believe I was booted off for profanity (I'm nineteen guys, give me a break. :/ ). A lot of you were very helpful when I was trying to get off of amphetamines, so I'm hoping to find the same, bright people who I enjoyed talking to last year.
If you'd rather e-mail me, feel free: ordinarymadness@ymail.com

Thank you for reading. :]
-Carrie ]]> Need to Talk? disassembly http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/i-need-some-advice-stories-dealing-xanax-withdrawal-54813.html http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/light-end-tunnel-54812.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:49:26 GMT To everyone whose been trapped on suboxone... Its been just over 3 weeks now since I stopped using this drug.. I havnt relapsed, I stuck it out... To everyone whose been trapped on suboxone... Its been just over 3 weeks now since I stopped using this drug..

I havnt relapsed, I stuck it out and here I am today feeling better than I have in a long ass time.. I feel healthy and ontop of things.. The withdrawals do go away, insomnia sticks with you for a bit but maybe my case of that was worse since I moved about 14 hours backwards in time zones to the other side of the world n havnt fully adapted yet but basically I still DO get slight leg and arm cramps at night time which SUCK but I've been taking 2mg xanax at night once every few days just to ensure I can keep up on my sleep... Also tylenol can help with that to an extent.. Just dont ******** around with xanax I've been there aswell you HAVE to leave days inbetween dont trip on that and think youll be ok its just not worth it..

Basically I wanted to let everyone know that its not the end of the world getting off this drug... You basically have 2 weeks of feeling like ******** and not sleeping much and then things just seem to get drastically better from there onwards..

You get your sex drive back, the weak feeling in your muscles goes away, you start feeling way more outgoing and open to challenges and your whole perspective is sharpened from this experience...

It seriously is worth it getting off the subs and opiates.. Just remember that withdrawals WILL go away if you let your body cope with it.. Keep that in mind the whole way through... Dont leave yourself open to the option of popping pills or junging a divvy in your arm when things get hard...

It seriously is mind over matter and believe me when I tell you your going to ********ing love being able to wake up in the morning and NOT have to even think about taking any drugs just to maintain..

Dont give up the struggle... peace. ]]> Need to Talk? NosMC http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/light-end-tunnel-54812.html http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/need-help-psych-cravings-54810.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:51:46 GMT Hi, I am a opiate addict. still does not sound real when i say it. I am past physical cravings but now the psychological cravings are coming back,... Hi, I am a opiate addict. still does not sound real when i say it. I am past physical cravings but now the psychological cravings are coming back, specifically for opiates. but also to some lesser extent alcohol. but real strong cravings for narcotics (pain pills). its like i am obsessed. Aside from my meetings, what else can I do to decrease these urges? I try praying and having more faith, but i am having a tough time becoming a 'spiritual' person. ]]> Need to Talk? shybaybe2003 http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/need-help-psych-cravings-54810.html http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/new-member-same-old-story-54808.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:29:29 GMT Hi all, I have been reading this site like mad the last few days as realizations have been hitting me. The biggest irony is how many times I used... Hi all,

I have been reading this site like mad the last few days as realizations have been hitting me. The biggest irony is how many times I used sites like this to ID pills, and now here I am on the other side of the fence...

I was a weed addict for 10+ years but have more or less stopped. But now I realize I have simply traded one adiction for another. A friend turned me on to "non addictive" Tramadol about two years ago. Last year, when my wife had a C-section she got 60 Percs - they just sat in the cabinet so I started taking them as well.

Now:
I take 2-3 50 mg's Tramadols every Fri, Sat. & Sun + 1 5mg or 10mg Perc.
On Mon - Thurs I take 2 two Percs after work, sometimes w/ 1/2 a Tramadol as well. I also sometimes take 1 Soma too to enhance effects.

I used to always skip at least Tues & Wed but now I never do.

From what I've read here I am still near prescribed dosing so I am hoping WD wont be so bad. But for me it's a mental thing anyway - that much I know. I have about 400 Tramadols at home and I cannot bring myself to through them away. I cant IMAGINE a Sat or Sun at home w/o them.

Every night I go to be and say "tomorrow night no percs!!" But every night when I get home I take them. Always.

Someone recently posted here about the "fork in the road." I think that's where I am. If I dont change and stop I think I will be in big trouble - I have slowly been upp'ing doses and mixing more. I find myself moody and agitagted all the time - that's not me. Even ON them now I get moody which is really weird imo.

A few questions/issues:

1) I am extremely conflicted on if I should tell my wife. I am unsure if she will be helpful and supportive or if she will be angry with me and all my lying. She is great and very loving but def doesn't understand addiction. Who knows what her reaction will be?? The sickest part? One reason I dont want to tell her is b/c the voice in my head is saying if I tell her I'll never be able to get Perc's again! how f'd up is that?! But, isnt it harder to stop w/o the support of one's spouse?

2) Mixing tramadols and percs. Since I mix, am I addicted to each separateley, or both together? Kinda hard to explain what I'm asking but I guess the question is- is it harder to quit/do you get more WD symptoms from using both together as opossed to just one of the two substances? Should I stop one b/f the other?

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I have two beautiful 1 year old twins and I need to make this positive change - for them as well as myself. It was so hard to raise newborn twins after work each day - that's one of the reasons I stared taking Percs. Not trying to blame them - I have only myself to blame.

I quit smoking about a year ago - ironically I used the soothingness of Percs to help me quit - so I think I am capable. And, just like cigarettes, I believe the first step for me is that it is bothering me every day and I am realizing I must change. But now comes the hard part - actually doing it.

Do I do this alone? Enter a facility (which would be very harmful to my career)? Tell a few people?

Last, if I tell no one and do quit, aren't I just a "dry drunk" - someone who's quit but never addressed the root problem? Maybe a therapist is the way to go? But from what I've seen they dont deal w/additicion - only refer you to addicition treatment centers which is not what I want.


thank you all,

Gordon ]]> Need to Talk? G-Guy http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/new-member-same-old-story-54808.html http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/how-long-will-oxys-stay-my-blood-54807.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:43:58 GMT I have to give blood in the next couple days sometime,no later than friday.Yesterday i did a 40mg oxy and the day before i did almost a whole... I have to give blood in the next couple days sometime,no later than friday.Yesterday i did a 40mg oxy and the day before i did almost a whole 80mg.Qeustion is how long will these show up in my blood?Will i be ok by friday? ]]> Need to Talk? bmob08 http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/how-long-will-oxys-stay-my-blood-54807.html http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/w-d-symptons-while-working-exam-54806.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:32:42 GMT Hello

I take between 5-8 percocets for the past 2 years. In the first year not as much but I can't believe it's been 2 years. I am trying hard ( many attempts ) to come clean. I can call in sick for a week max but I have an exam to write on Nov 30th. I think I will probably run out of pills on Sunday. Will I be really sick, too sick to write an exam on the 30th? Thanks for any input ]]> Need to Talk? really trying http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/w-d-symptons-while-working-exam-54806.html http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/so-happened-again-54805.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:02:28 GMT For those that know me, I have been on and off Suboxone and pain meds on several occassions. I have made many posts about every incident, well I... For those that know me, I have been on and off Suboxone and pain meds on several occassions. I have made many posts about every incident, well I haven't been on for awhile because I relapsed. I have no excuse, even though I have chronic pain, from a back injury I am in full guilt for what I have done. I abused Tramadol taking 15 at a time. Sometimes 30 in one day. I even went to several Prompt Cares and ER's after doctor had informed me that one pharmacy called fraud on me for having multiple prescriptions. Ok so let me tell you I went into some W/D, I took those Tramadol's everyday for about a week, then maybe having a day without them because I was out. So all together this time around I was abusing for less than a month. So my W/D's have nearly faded, now I am dealing with the pain. I am taking IBprofen and Lyrica and it's helped some, but I still feel that aching dull making me want to grind me teeth at times pain. But what do I do?? I have kids and can't keep doing this. I have ALOT going on in my life right now, and I feel pretty good so far as not wanting or craving pills.

I am eating ok, although the first 2 days I ate nothing, had no appetite. I did have some cold flashes, definitely anxiety. That's faded some. Although you never know it could creep back up on me. One thing that I have never experienced before in W/D is the cold, runny nose and head congestion. It was pretty annoying, but it's mostly gone now, oh and I sneezed ALOT the first couple days.

Anyhow, I am lucky that I didn't feel like I had the flu, other than some body aches and lack of energy. But I feel stronger now, and please don't judge me because I failed again. I feel enough guilt as it is!

So I have been clean now for 6 days, doesn't seem long but gotta take it day by day. I have to succeed for not only me, but my kids!! I can go longer go through this up and down spiral of addiction. I am an addict and I'm not afraid to admit it, but I am afraid when my pain gets to a certain level that bothers me.

I have had one drug dream so far, and like I said I am not craving the pills, I want sobriety and this has go to be it, no more messing around!! Please keep me in your prayers. ]]> Need to Talk? no_more_tram http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/so-happened-again-54805.html http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/medications-chemo-nausea-vomitting-54803.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:21:38 GMT Any suggestions for medication for nausea and vomitting while taking Avastin for Kidney Cancer besides Zofran and Compazine? :) Any suggestions for medication for nausea and vomitting while taking Avastin for Kidney Cancer besides Zofran and Compazine? :) ]]> Need to Talk? angie22 http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/medications-chemo-nausea-vomitting-54803.html http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/question-about-subdivided-sub-dosages-54802.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:55:34 GMT So I have a question/concern about sub dosages... I was reading earlier in a thread about Lousdad having problems with w/d symptoms while dropping... So I have a question/concern about sub dosages...

I was reading earlier in a thread about Lousdad having problems with w/d symptoms while dropping his sub dosage and he mentioned something about taking a "sliver" of a pill. I am fairly certain I have read Robert advise people in some situations (maybe when at the end of the taper?) to crush their sub pills then subdivide the powder so as to try to get as much of a uniform dose as possible (I think I remember this! - but again, I am a recovering addict so some of my brain cells are probably fried from my use).

Most pills have the drug evenly distributed within the tablet so cutting a 4mg pill in half should give you 2mg. But also remember that the FDA allows the drug amount to be within +/-15% of the stated dose - add that to the small possibility of nonuniform drug distribution and a "sliver" could be 1.5 mg when you think it is 1mg. Again, this would be a "crazy worst case" scenario (!) but with something as important as sub dosage and addiction it is something to think about. Crushing the pill into a powder would eliminate the possibility of drug variation within the pill. Unfortunately, without an "analytical" balance you probably cannot be that much more sure of the pill division than you could be with a razorblade/pill splitter - no getting around that. Some will/would argue with me but the issue of drug uniformity/dosage may become more of an issue now that subs have gone to generic manufacturers. (I take generics whenever possible as I am a cheapo so I am not trying to knock them but there are potential issues with them that are not worth getting into here).

Robert - can you weigh in here? (sorry, no pun intended).

I have not used subs so I don't know if variations within these small dosages are really a problem or if this was just a problem with one person. With the drug half-life being so long, I would *think* that any minor variations within doses would not matter. I really don't want to cause a firestorm of panic but I admit the worry I felt when I heard about taking a "sliver" of a pill - especially when it appears that dosage & stabilization is pretty key in being successful on subs. Goodness knows we don't need any more bumps on the road to getting clean.

Again, just expressing a concern...

just a mom ]]> Need to Talk? just_a_mom http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/question-about-subdivided-sub-dosages-54802.html http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/heroin-withdrawl-54801.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:06:33 GMT My boyfriend told me last night he has been doing heroin. What are the withdrawl symptoms? Can he kick the habit without a rehab program? any help... My boyfriend told me last night he has been doing heroin. What are the withdrawl symptoms? Can he kick the habit without a rehab program? any help would be great I am devasted and don't know what to expect. ]]> Need to Talk? needhelp76 http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/heroin-withdrawl-54801.html