[lulu12]

Hi Can you explain the difference in these my sister and I are in big debate.. I say ultram isnt near as strong as percocet she says it's stronger. Does anyone know the relation?
des

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[girlie girl]

In my own experience ultrams have been weaker than percs. Hope this helps.

Girlie Girl

[zippysgoddess]

The active drug in Ultram is Tramadol, a non-narcotic. The others all contain narcotics, Percocet contains Oxycodone, and Lortab contains Hydrocodone.

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[Dr. Watson]

Wrong...Ultram is a narcotic it is much weaker than percocet and Lortab. It is given often for long term use because it has very little euphoric effect.

[putyounacoma]

quote:Originally posted by Dr. Watson

Wrong...Ultram is a narcotic it is much weaker than percocet and Lortab. It is given often for long term use because it has very little euphoric effect.

No your wrong[B)] Dr Watson it is a non narcotic. http://www.spine-health.com/topics/c...ed/med042.html

Your not a real Doctor are you?

[lulu12]

Narcotic or not it aliviated my withdraw from narcotics and then again from Methadone! I took meth for 10 months and cold turkey quit no percs, no tabs, no vicodine!!! suffering and 12 meezly ultram...I would put money in the researchers ****ed up and it's definatley either narc or very extremely closly related! That's where I put my 10 years of pill addiction money at!

Des
clean now for weeks stopped counting days!![)]

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[putyounacoma]

quote:Originally posted by deskev

Narcotic or not it aliviated my withdraw from narcotics and then again from Methadone! I took meth for 10 months and cold turkey quit no percs, no tabs, no vicodine!!! suffering and 12 meezly ultram...I would put money in the researchers ****ed up and it's definatley either narc or very extremely closly related! That's where I put my 10 years of pill addiction money at!

Des
clean now for weeks stopped counting days!![)]

speak kindly! Karma my friend!

Congratulations you are free and on the road to freedom. I wish i was and will try to do the same. My doctor gave me a handfull of samples and if they worked for you I will try it also. Thanks for the heads up.

[zippysgoddess]

Thanks putyounacoma, Ultram is non-narcotic. One of the reasons it can help with withdrawals, is because it is a pain reliever, and part of the withdrawal problem from other drugs, is the pain, and cramping that results.

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[kirby]

Tramadol is a weak opioid.

From the Ultram prescribing info at rxlist.com:

ULTRAM is a centrally acting synthetic opioid analgesic. Although its mode of action is not completely understood, from animal tests, at least two complementary mechanisms appear applicable: binding of parent and M1 metabolite to µ-opioid receptors and weak inhibition of reuptake of norepinephrine and serotonin.

Opioid activity is due to both low affinity binding of the parent compound and higher affinity binding of the O-demethylated metabo-lite M1 to µ-opioid receptors. In animal models,M1 is up to 6 times more potent than tramadol in producing analgesia and 200 times more potent in µ-opioid binding. Tramadol-induced analgesia is only partially antagonized by the opiate antagonist naloxone in several animal tests. The relative contribution of both tramadol and M1 to human analgesia is dependent upon the plasma concentrations of each compound (see CLINICAL PHARMACOLOGY, Pharmacokinetics).

Tramadol has been shown to inhibit reuptake of norepinephrine and serotonin in vitro, as have some other opioid analgesics. These mechanisms may contribute independently to the overall analgesic profile of ULTRAM. Analgesia in humans begins approximately within one hour after administration and reaches a peak in approximately two to three hours.


I'm not a pharmacist or a medical doctor. This message is not medical advice nor is it an offer to provide medical advice. All drug identifications should be validated by a licensed MD or pharmacist.

[lulu12]

[quote]Originally posted by zippysgoddess

Thanks putyounacoma, Ultram is non-narcotic. One of the reasons it can help with withdrawals, is because it is a pain reliever, and part of the withdrawal problem from other drugs, is the pain, and cramping that results.

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Please take no disrespect from this comment but BULL **** I took every NON narcotic pain killer you can spell when I went through this and NONE DID ****!! On day 6, You know the day you want to stick your head in one of those sausage grinders yea that one I took 5 ULTRAM, TRAMADOL AFTER about 9 hours after killing a 30 pill bottle of motrin and half a pharmacy full of NYTOL>> ULTRAM WORKED!!!!!!!!
I dont care what who says I've been popping anything I can reach for the last 10 years of my life I've withdrawn more times that I'd like to remember NEVER THAT LONG! Ultram aliviated it because it's an opiod!! Thats it that's all!!
Now I have to tell you however hard the physical pain is It doesnt come close to compensating the MENTAL TORTURE that I'm going threw now.. But MIND OVER MATTER!!!
GOOD LUCK DOPIES IF i can do it so can you,

DESAREE

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[Heino]

Back before I coming to this country, liebe mutter send me to one blind hedge-trimming midget of a gardener aus Dusseldorf for haircut. His name was Otto and he was addict for percocet many year. I recommend not to taking this things and to get natural high, like I get when listening to other people's music.

[dizzy23]

quote:Originally posted by Dr. Watson

Wrong...Ultram is a narcotic it is much weaker than percocet and Lortab. It is given often for long term use because it has very little euphoric effect.

Sorry Dr.Watson,Ultram is not a narcoticYou can have withdrawals from meds that are not narcotic and you can become depended on them.

[cointreau]

nar·cot·ic (as a noun 1. & 2.; as adj. I.)
1. An addictive drug ... Natural and synthetic narcotics are used in medicine to control pain.

2. A soothing, numbing agent or thing

I. Inducing sleep or stupor; causing narcosis.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/narcotic

[Mike VG]

Percocet is stronger than Ultram. Percocet is an actual derivative of Opium (if you will). Ultram (Tramadol) is a synthetic drug that gives some of the pain benefits of the opiates.
GriffSS

[circa9870]

Everyone who is saying that Tramadol (Ultram) is not a narcotic has know idea what they are talking about. It was marketed as a less addictive opioid because it acts differently than most other opioids and the pharmaceutical company that made it said that it was non-addictive. However, chemically, it is an opioid, and people have become ADDICTED to it, not simply dependent on it, just like any other type of opioid. The only difference between tramadol and any other opioid is that tramadol is very weak, and a few other things other than that are different but I wont go into that because they arent really relevant. But yes Tramadol IS a narcotic and people do not only become dependent on it but become actually addicted to it, just like people do to Lortab or Percocet, it is just less likely with tramadol because it is so weak. I have heard it is going to be scheduled soon because the FDA/DEA has found out about all the people who have been getting high from Tramadol and getting addicted to it. IT IS A NARCOTIC JUST LIKE ANY OTHER OPIOID, despite what you read on those stupid websites. Not everything on the internet is true you know.

I hope this clears some things up for you people who dont think it is a narcotic. For the main question the Ultram/tramadol is much weaker than percocet, there is no doubt about that, it is also much weaker than Lortab.

By the way GriffSS the opioid in percocet,oxycodone, is not present in opium but is made synthetically, just like Tramadol is. Oxycodone may technically be a semisynthetic, but either way it is not present in opium and that has nothing to do with the chemicals strength anyway. Very few opioids that are used in medicine are found in opium, only Morphine and Codiene, so really the strongest opioids are actually synthetic, like Methadone, Fentanyl, Oxymorphone, Hydromorphone, and Levorphanol. My point is whether or not something is synthetic or natural has nothing to do with its strength or how well it treats pain.

I hope everyone has a pain-free day,
Circa