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Ultram >>. hydrocodone
I have been taking hydrocodone for fibromyalgia but I would like to try something that is not so addictive. My pharmacist suggested Ultram. can anyone tell me the difference between the two?
I've read somewhere on this forum that Ultram is just as addictive as the rest of the other opiates out there. They just aren't as strong.
Ultram (in my opinion) can be more dangerous to take than conventional narcotics. My reasoning. Ultram can actually making you build a resistance to itself, and narcotics. I was on Ultram for six months, and within that six months I had to have my dose upped TEN times. My doctor then abruptly discontinued me from this medication right before thanksgiving. Since then I've been using hydrocodone and it takes at least 15-20 mg of hydro to even touch my pain.
ALSO - tramadol (Ultram) - has other properties - in some ways it acts like a narcotic, anti-depressant, and amphetamine. It can wire you up, it can take away from sexual pleasure, and it can constipate you like NO body's business.
Considering Fibromyalgia has NO cure I would speak to your specialist about a LONG-term treatment plan. My experience with Tramadol has been entirely negative. If you use Ultram make sure you use the extended release that way the dose controls the pain, NOT you controlling the dose.
Ultram worse than hydrocodone
Hello, I took ultram for less than one year for an issue with my shoulder and now take hydrocodone which i have been on for approx. 4 years and take it from me ultram is actually worse than hydrocodone. when i was prescribed ultram the dr told me it was non narcotic and therefor non addictive. this info was completely false. for starters the effectiveness wore off much more quickly than hydro. within about a month on the ultram i was takin over 10 pills per day and when i told my doc this i was told its fine just try not to take that much if u dnt hav e to. after 4 years on hydro i still am not up to 10 pills per day. having experienced withdrawls from both of these meds i can say without question >> rather withdrawl from hydro several times than to ever go thru ultram withdrawls again!! my dr was convinced i was not going thru withdawls from the ultram & blamed the 30 5/500 vicodin a month i was getting for the withdrawls...this wasnt the case. i was depressed, in pain, wanted to kill myself, cried uncontrollably, couldnt sleep & had what i can only describe as surges of energy in my arms and legs. if i was lucky enugh to fall asleep while going thru the withdrawls i would quickly be jolted awake by involuntary movements of my arms and legs...i literally felt as if i was being shocked and it wasnt a quick jolt it lasted for extended periods of time. no amt of sleep aids, anxiety meds or anything else would relieve this. i withdrew from ultram only two times and actually contemplated getting on suboxone just because i couldnt take the agony of withdrawls. i have withdrawn from hydro several times & tho its not a cake walk its nothing like ultram withdrawls. when i run out of hydro my legs ache & i have diarhea, cant eat & just feel bad but i can take a klonopin and be able to sleep with no shock waves as with ultram. i cannot beleve that ultram is being passed out by dr's under the false claim that its non addictive, non narcotic & free of withdrawls. im here 2 say ultrams the devil . stick to hydro
Ultram or Tramadol is the new, hip-hop painkiller that many doctors are prescribing. The makers of this drug were crafty, playing down its addiction risks and labeling it as non-narcotic. No it does not have an opioid like codeine in it, but it plays on your opioid receptors just enough and it releases serotonin. This can create a high for some ppl, and many are now getting hooked on this drug. That said, I never had a problem with Ultram. I did not find it strong enough in contrast to Vicodin, and most doctors prefer Ultram over hydrocodone. In general, Ultram really is less addictive or is supposed to be, but that depends on the user, past history and sensation it creates. For me, hydrocodone is def. more addicting than Tramadol, and I take Tramadol as needed without a problem for my back problem, but some ppl do get hooked, so if u switch, just be careful. Do not take more medicine than u are supposed to and chances are u will be fine. Now will it acheive the pain relief u are seeking? That is something that I do not know. Maybe yes, maybe no, but many ppl have told me about Tramadol withdrawals and how bad they can be. I have no doubt if someone is popping 15+ pills a day, that is abuse and will create problems, but again Ultram for the most part is "less addictive" than regualar narcotics. That said, it should be placed on schedule IV controlled substance. Some states have done this, but most states have it as non-narcotic. That will probably change soon. Just be careful with it. Don't be scared to take it. Most ppl don't get hooked, but if u have had a history of drug abuse, then of course your chances augment with any painkiller. I wish u luck and God Bless.
Originally Posted by tsoftballmom
I have to agree with this person on a couple of notes I never had any problems with it but I used it as prescribed. The many people that I know on pain pills enjoy the perks of it and take more than needed or more often. It helped my fibromyalgia more than Lyrica which caused a huge weight gain and is another so called non narcotic but you can get hooked. The people that suffer the withdrawals are taking far too much and dont taper down they run out cold turkey because they were out before their script was due. If you do happen to go to hydrocodone I have stopped it as well cold turkey because I wanted to and only suffered some leg cramps which you will get with any opioid withdrawal bottom line taper down a little less each day or other day and getting off either medication should be safe. It is not safe to be on high dosage and run out and go through the withdrawals and one other thing if you ever suffer the hot/cold sweats like my brother did the dr can give you a pill I think it was like some kind of blood pressure med clonodine or something but it stopped them for him and he took warm baths to stop the leg cramps, not being able to sleep melantonin has always worked for me but if you cant sleep dont just lay in bed and toss and turn bight the bullet get up do something to burn off the energy you are feeling might as well get something done than wallow in pitty and nervousness and if you have klonopin or valium that for sure help you through your come down stage, try to avoid caffenie too I have seen my brother go through this so many times I have to hide any pain meds I get. Good Luck. PS yes you might be tired the next day but I doubt it so dont worry so much that is your biggest enemy.
Originally Posted by primetimegrape
Ultram (Tramadol) is related to Hydrocodone, but is not an opiate. Basically the pills are the same except the opiate parts have been removed from the Hydrocodone and replaced with a synthetic to make the Tramadol (that's the easiest way to explain it without using Chemistry). My father is a Pharmacist and says Tramadol is worthless to treat pain. I disagree, as I have taken both Hydrocodone and Tramadol for my back pain. I became severely addicted to opiates and so my doctor put me on the Tramadol. I will tell you that Tramadol does not help as much as Hydrocodone, but it is better than simply taking an OTC pain reliever. Tramadol is NOT as addictive as other opiates, but it does have some addictive properties. You can become dependent on Tramadol and have to wean off of it, but it is not causing people to exhibit the same behaviors as opiate addicts do.
so wrong bro i started using tramadol at 14. im 24 now and in between i have had vicodin oxy morphine and >>>>>> addictions. now the tramadol is all im on but i cant get off it. deffinitly worst withdrawls other than methadone, but if i run out or low which i always do i will steel from anyone to get them(other family members are on them) they are deffinitly strong at first but tolerance develops quick but you still get the possitive well being and not getting sick
having had the experience to take both n abruptly stop both I can tell you Ultram is far more serious in w d dept, nobody would believe me when I expressed this but I KNOW from gut=wrenching, sickness n all the rest, SCARY!
WOW OMG thank you for posting about the side effects!
I thought I was having a stroke or something. Yeah it literally does feel like I could NOT sleep at all my legs had a mind of their own....Is there no remedy for this...I went two days and nights w/o sleep so I finally went to the nearest Emergency Dept. The gave me IV of Ativan and morphine I was told it was withdrawl from the Norco but I now am 100% sure it was the Tramadol.
Any ideas on any home remedies? I tried aspirin and quiiine(tonic water...I dont know I was just trying whatever I could.
I would love to know how to combat that kind of agony again?
Thank You So Much!
Within the scholarly medical journals, tramadol is equal to codeine.
100MG Tramadol = 60MG codeine
Hydrocodone is more potent.
FYI One unique item concerning tramadol is its affinity to bind to serotonin receptors