[RJ1977]

Hi I have been on this site for awhile and always get good replies. I have a question tomorrow I start suboxne treatment and am wondering is it a opiate and will it give me the same effects as when I take Opiates ?? Because I have a friend that started the treatment and now he is addicted to suboxne more than he was to oxy's or loratabs. Please help me because I am scared of getting sick if you know what I mean ?

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by RJ1977

Hi I have been on this site for awhile and always get good replies. I have a question tomorrow I start suboxne treatment and am wondering is it a opiate and will it give me the same effects as when I take Opiates ?? Because I have a friend that started the treatment and now he is addicted to suboxne more than he was to oxy's or loratabs. Please help me because I am scared of getting sick if you know what I mean ?

RJ,

Suboxone is different from opiates you have abused. You will not get high from it. You may feel a little "wired" feeling, but that is all and you are likely taking too much if that happens. I am sharing my experience with you. I used this medication successfully and stopped successfully with no W/Ds of any kind. You can too if you follow these directions.

You have every right to be concerned about getting addicted to Suboxone. Understand I am not bad mouthing Suboxone. It is a very good method of getting off opiate RX meds, OC and other opiates. I did not want to stay on Sub until I became addicted. There are some key factors that worked for me and might work for you.

Suboxone is normally meant to be used on a short term basis just to get past opiate W/Ds. Longer term use may be required by some but that is the exception. I took it for only a month and I was taking 40 Lorcets a day. So this system I am sharing works!!! Long term use is when you become addicted.

First make sure you are in ACUTE W/Ds before starting therapy or it won't work for you. That is just the way the drug works. Next ... start on a small dosage....like 8mg a day. You may need 12mg a day the first 2-3 days, but then reduce to 8mg ... no more than that. It isn't necessary to take more. Don't take 20-24mg to start as it's harder to stop with that higher dose when you want to. Your opiate W/Ds are normally over in a few weeks at the most. At the end of that time you need to be getting off the Suboxone. Reduce your dose by 2mg every other day or skip a day every other day for a week. Get it down to 2mg for a couple days and then stop cold. You may have an upset stomach for a day, you will likely have it mess with your head for a few days, but that should be it. No W/Ds and you won't become addicted. Stay on it for over 60 days and you will have to do a slow taper for several months or face becoming sick and suffering W/Ds.

I am a proponent of Subutex/Suboxone therapy. There is nothing wrong with it. It helped save me from awful W/Ds. But if you don't want to become addicted to it, and don't want to have W/Ds when you stop it, follow the guidelines above. This worked great for me and I abused RX meds (Lorcets), OC and others for almost 40 years. I also had some post acute withdrawal syndrome (PAWS). One does not have to become addicted to use and stop Suboxone therapy successfully.

I know lots of drs put people on high high doses of this medication then we can't get off it when we want to. Don't let yourself fall into that trap if you want to stop successfully without pain. I stopped cold exactly as I described above and have had NO problems...ZERO. It was a piece of cake. I don't see why anyone can not follow these guidelines. They work.

Keep us posted how you are doing. We are on here to help if we can. I'm on here every day. You can do this the right way if you put your mind to it. Good luck and God bless!!!

[UNEEK1]

Hi. I am starting Suboxone tomorrow, 4-22-08. I am scared. I have been taking hydrocodone for a year and a half and I can't taper, it just doesn't work for me. Instead I end up taking more. It is all in my head and I can't fight it anymore. I just want the old me back. I have gotten to where I don't care about my house, my yard, my belongings and most of all: ME. I used to be up on the current hair styles and now if I wash it every other day, whew hew. I just do not care anymore. I have lost all of my energy, some friends, a lot of money. I still have my family so I figured I better stop before I lose that too. Please respond. I am really scared. Last dose was at 3:30p.m. and doc said no more for tonight or tomorrow. My appointment is at 12:30p.m. tomorrow. I have a few xanax that I will put to good use for relaxation purposes tonight and maybe tomorrow. Oh, will I be able to sleep while on suboxone?

[BECCAGRL27]

HI UNEEK,
I am also starting the suboxone treatment tomorrow. I have been hooked on opiate pills for three years now, I have tryed to quit many times but without no sucess. Back over the summer, my brother started giving me half of his 8mg suboxone pills, and let me tell u, I would rather have a suboxone over a perk, or anything else anyday. It makes my brain think that i took an opiate, only it's not a up and down thing, it keeps u even all day. I don't know about anyone else, but, what kept me going back to the opiates was not the physical w/d, but the mental part, which last a long time after, the worst of it is the depression and the EXTREME lack of energy. I have three children, and without opiates in my system(aside from the physical withdrawl) I can't get my ass out of bed, it takes all my energy just to get up and change my baby's diaper, not to mention my house is upside down filthy, and the laundry is molding in the basement. The lack of energy and severe depression gets be back to taking pills every time. And the sad part is, I have been taking a high dose of a antidepressant. Unfortuantly my brother had to stop giving me his suboxone, so I ended right back on the pills, rather then going to get my own treatment. I just want to say suboxone is a life saver, even though it may be another drug, verses the alternative, I think it was a damn good alternative to come out with, for people like me. So, I think u will be pleasantly pleased once u start your treatment. God bless, and good luck...

[UNEEK1]

Hi Beccagrl27... I myself have kids and no energy-its like I could care less about anything but the pills. I can't wait until my appointment tomorrow and hopefully this nightmare will be out the door. I hope everything goes the same for me as did for you when you took the suboxone. I just want ME back. I'll keep you posted and please you do the same.

[BECCAGRL27]

Originally Posted by UNEEK1

Hi Beccagrl27... I myself have kids and no energy-its like I could care less about anything but the pills. I can't wait until my appointment tomorrow and hopefully this nightmare will be out the door. I hope everything goes the same for me as did for you when you took the suboxone. I just want ME back. I'll keep you posted and please you do the same.

I can't wait until my appointment, I am starting withdrawl as we speak, I begged my mom to bring me something until tomorrow, she brought me a 7.5mg percocet so i can function and take care of these kids. Ofcourse that didn't get me high, but I can atleast function and not sick as a dog. Where are u from uneek? I am in Delaware.

[sharilou]

You will be so happy once you start Subox. i did and it worked wonders for me.

I cant figure out how to post a new thread so I used this area.
I had a Norco addition for a year due to back problems, Went to re-hab and am taking suboxone (for 2 weeks now) I am having surgery tomorrow and will have to take pain meds. I took 2 4mg of suboxone yesterday. Does anyone know if i will be able to take pain meds (vicodin) tomorrow. I am really over the addiction. The subox helped me so much. I have never been an addict, just took too many pain pills because I had disc problems which I am getting repaired tomorrow. Since I'm not taking subox today, I will probably need to take a couple of Norco tonight. Any input on this is greatly appreciated.
Thanks a million

[6girls]

My husband was on Lortab for years before I met him. Last year he told me about his addiction and I supported him in finding a doctor that would help him with his addiction. He was prescribed Suboxine and takes it every day. He is starting to decrease his amounts which was great news for me. He told me the other night he did try Lortab again after being on Suboxine and the thrill and high was just not there. It's as if his brain told him "NO" and "it's not needed", it really didn't have the same affect it did prior to taking Suboxine. You hang in there and I, too, think you will be pleasantly surprised with your results. Just try your best to keep a positive attitude and be honest with your family. They are your biggest supporters. I know I am for my newly wed husband.

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by BECCAGRL27

I can't wait until my appointment, I am starting withdrawl as we speak, I begged my mom to bring me something until tomorrow, she brought me a 7.5mg percocet so i can function and take care of these kids. Ofcourse that didn't get me high, but I can atleast function and not sick as a dog. Where are u from uneek? I am in Delaware.

You really need to tell your dr tomorrow that you took Percocet today. You need to be in VERY ACUTE withdrawals when you start Subutex or Suboxone or you will go into BAD w/d when you start the new medication. It's just the way it works. That is why you should go for a few days with no meds whatsoever before starting the new therapy.

I hope you don't choose to disregard what I have shared. Being in serious W/Ds is imperative for Subutex or Suboxone to work and not make you sick.

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by sharilou

You will be so happy once you start Subox. i did and it worked wonders for me.

I cant figure out how to post a new thread so I used this area.
I had a Norco addition for a year due to back problems, Went to re-hab and am taking suboxone (for 2 weeks now) I am having surgery tomorrow and will have to take pain meds. I took 2 4mg of suboxone yesterday. Does anyone know if i will be able to take pain meds (vicodin) tomorrow. I am really over the addiction. The subox helped me so much. I have never been an addict, just took too many pain pills because I had disc problems which I am getting repaired tomorrow. Since I'm not taking subox today, I will probably need to take a couple of Norco tonight. Any input on this is greatly appreciated.
Thanks a million

Just a word of wisdom for you. I went on Subutex ( same as Suboxone ) and had to have oral surgery after about a month. I went off the medication and started taking Lorcets as I felt totally confident I would not blow it. Not saying you will blow it, but I would suggest this. You need pain meds after surgery obviously. Take them a few days if you have to and then stop a few days and get back on the Suboxone. Don't risk it like I did as I went back out following the oral surgery and taking Lorcets. You will need to stop the pain meds totally for a few days before taking Suboxone again or you will likely get sick from it. It's just the way Suboxone works. Good luck to you. And you should be ok tomorrow taking meds. Can't guarantee it though for tonight. They probably will not work yet.

[UNEEK1]

Hello to all. I started my suboxone at 1:00p.m. today and by 2:00p.m. I felt like ME again. I feel great. I wish I would've done this a long time ago, (or never abused the pills) I hated the depression that I felt from being on the pills. One day I would feel great and have so much energy and then the next day I would feel almost suicidal. It was a roller coaster ride and I was not having fun any more. So I have to say that my first day on suboxone is a very good one. If any one has any info about sleeping, such as sleeping too much or not being able to sleep, please let me know so I can be prepared. Thanks to all and I will be in touch.

[BECCAGRL27]

Originally Posted by Robert_325

You really need to tell your dr tomorrow that you took Percocet today. You need to be in VERY ACUTE withdrawals when you start Subutex or Suboxone or you will go into BAD w/d when you start the new medication. It's just the way it works. That is why you should go for a few days with no meds whatsoever before starting the new therapy.

I hope you don't choose to disregard what I have shared. Being in serious W/Ds is imperative for Subutex or Suboxone to work and not make you sick.

I thankyou for your concern,however, I was aware of this going in, a 7.5 mg percocet hardley touched me, it just somewhat took the edge off. I am use to more then a 100 mg qd. I did start the suboxone today and I was in pretty heavy withdrawl. It worked wonderful, I am so glad that i can finally get my life back in order, and on top of that I got a job today, which I have been looking for, for some time now. I know that God has been listening to my prays. Thanks again for your concern..

[BECCAGRL27]

Originally Posted by UNEEK1

Hello to all. I started my suboxone at 1:00p.m. today and by 2:00p.m. I felt like ME again. I feel great. I wish I would've done this a long time ago, (or never abused the pills) I hated the depression that I felt from being on the pills. One day I would feel great and have so much energy and then the next day I would feel almost suicidal. It was a roller coaster ride and I was not having fun any more. So I have to say that my first day on suboxone is a very good one. If any one has any info about sleeping, such as sleeping too much or not being able to sleep, please let me know so I can be prepared. Thanks to all and I will be in touch.

Hey Uneek, I thought about you today, I started mine at 9:30 this morning and I also feel like the old me, I went out and got a job today, and cleaned up my nasty house, and caught up on alot of things then needed attention. Everything u described was exactly how I have been feeling for the last three years, and now starting today I am free of all that. Did they start you on 2 8mg pills per day? I am so glad to hear it went well for u, I knew it would though..

[UNEEK1]

Yes they started me on 2-8mg pills per day. I go back in one week for a follow-up and back to FedEx the day after. I couldn't even work cuz of those stupid pills. I almost lost my job because of them(or me taking them). I thought of you today also. I am starting on my filthy house tomorrow, 1 room at a time. I FEEL GREAT!!!! Talk to you tomorrow.

[BECCAGRL27]

Originally Posted by UNEEK1

Yes they started me on 2-8mg pills per day. I go back in one week for a follow-up and back to FedEx the day after. I couldn't even work cuz of those stupid pills. I almost lost my job because of them(or me taking them). I thought of you today also. I am starting on my filthy house tomorrow, 1 room at a time. I FEEL GREAT!!!! Talk to you tomorrow.

That is what they started me out on. I go back in a month. And I lost acouple of good jobs too because I couldn't get out of bed w/o a pill. It's sad really, but we just got to keep telling ourselves it is a disease and not to be ashamed, and ignore the ones with ignorant comments, or let the people u hurt in the process of the addiction to bring u back down and make u feel bad for something that was in the past. I don't know about u, but I have one of those, and realized that they are better off to stay away from until I get stronger and can handle the past hurts I have caused. I am off to bed, glad to hear you are doing great, I feel wonderful myself,lol...talk to you tomorrow.

[UNEEK1]

I feel NORMAL and I love it!!! The only thing I hate, is now I have to "clean up the aftermath" I keep telling myself that I am lucky because I still have my job and most of all, my family. Beccagrl, I hope today is a good day for you. Keep in touch.

[UNEEK1]

Day 3 and doing great. I have noticed that I have had some thoughts about popping a pill to do something and then I remember "I don't have to do that anymore" "I don't need pills to get through the day anymore... BeccaGrl I am from Illinois.

[RJ1977]

Its been 4 days for me and its not that bad the taste of Suboxone is awful but other than that it is not bad I am on 8mg twice a day but I am going to see if I can take three a day or two and a half because two is really making me hurt !!! But it is a wonderful pill it is really feeling like I can do this I didn't think I could but it has been 4 days and all is well so far . So good luck to all that are starting because it really will help you if you let it but hey I only been on it 4 days.

[UNEEK1]

Hello... Explain why only 2 are making you hurt? I am just curious about why you are hurting... like how do you feel, is it similar to withdrawals or something else? Are you scheduled to take your pills at a certain time during the day or did your doc just say to take 2 a day at any time? I have to take 1\2 a pill at 7:00a.m. and the other 1\2 at 5:00p.m. and I don't notice any changes if I am late taking my pill. My pills are orange and the taste reminds me of that orange drink called "Tang". The taste is not that bad, but heck I used to swallow hydrocodones without water if I had to and that was nasty. Let me know, because I am curious.

[UNEEK1]

Hello to all and it is day 4 for me on suboxone and I am still doing great. So far so good. I have had some depression and anxiety issues and I am wondering if the suboxone has helped with that because I feel "evened out" If anyone knows about this "side effect" let me know, thanks.

[Charliez]

Glad you all are doing so well now you are on suboxone. I have been on sub. now for 6 months. I have not even wanted a pain pill along with many pleasant results. I remember the first few weeks on the sub. there wasn't enough time in the day to do all I wanted to do. It's a great feeling getting yourself back together. Now you can concentrate on the important things in life...Charlie

[UNEEK1]

Hi. It is day 5 for me and my suboxone and I am feeling great. I go back to work on Wednesday and I am nervous because it will be the first time in 13 months that I will do my job sober. I hope everyone is well. Have a great day '

[eHealthMe]

Glad to see you are working well with suboxone. You may also want to look out for some drugs reported that may interact, such as Gabapentin, Quetiapine Fumarate. You can check more on www.ehealthme.com

[UNEEK1]

Hello. It is day 6 and I am doing great on suboxone. I am glad (so very glad) I was introduced to suboxone.

[UNEEK1]

Hello to all, it is day 7 for me on suboxone. I am going to see my Dr. for a follow up tomorrow to see how I am doing on the Suboxone medication. I am doing well. I wish I would get word from RJ1977 and BeccaGrl to see how they are doing on Suboxone. This will be my last post for the Suboxone. I hope everyone is doing well and not struggling. That is the one thing I do not miss, is the struggling with my norco's and the hold they had over me. I will tell you, I am having some pain in my low back and coccyx area but I would rather feel that than being out of it all of the time. One more thing, since being on Suboxone, Music is starting to sound good again.

[SusannahB]

Ive been on the Sub. for about 2 months, my taper just started today. Ive had no problems at all so far.
I hope everything goes great for u!

Good Luck

[UNEEK1]

SusannahB, let me know how the taper goes. I am worried that might be a difficult process. How does the Dr. know when to start the taper? Thanks a lot, and keep in touch. Good Luck.