[Businessman1]

Please can you tell me if benzos can give you nightmares and do they cause anxiety the following day?

I keep having a recurring nightmare about losing my job. I've never had nightmares before, I never normally remember dreams. It's so vivid I wake up confused and not sure if it's a dream.

I'm having a lot of difficulty sleeping so have been taking 15-20mg of valium on some nights to knock me out.

This is the reason I don't want to take the ambien I was prescribed. Everyone says it gives you vivid dreams.

[Robert_325]

Benzos can cause dreams especially at high doses. And following a high dose of any benzo it isn't uncommon to feel anxiety.

Taking 15-20mg of xanax is entirely too much. That isn't even close to being a medicinal dose. That's up to ten 2mg bars. That is not a wise thing to do.

Dealing with opiate detox is obviously no fun. I think your problem is a combination of opiate detox and too much xanax. Hope that helps. God bless.

[Robert_325]

Sorry businessman ... I see now that it's valium not xanax. That is better. 10-20mg valium is not that bad. Sorry I get going too fast at times.

Valium is notorious for dreams. I don't think ambien would be any worse. I still think the biggest part of your problem is due to opiate detox. It sucks to be stopping oxycodone. Hang in there. God bless.

[Businessman1]

Ok thanks - I'm relieved to know what's causing the dreams...

Maybe I'll try Ambien and see if it's any better for me.

If I make any stupid posts in the middle of the night you'll know I'm sleep-walking. I better not wake up fat tomorrow!

BTW, why does it say not to crush the Ambien? are they time released? I was planning to try a half first to see what it does to me.

[Robert_325]

There is a regular ambien and there is ambien cr. It's like an extended release. There is supposedly one dose to get you to sleep and another to keep you sleeping as lots of people used to wake up before the night was over. Stay away from that middle-of-the-night cooking and eating. I ate all kinds of junk while asleep on ambien. I can't take it unless I'm just wasted from no sleep. Then I'll do most anything for some rest. Just be careful. God bless.

[melinda7.5]

Hi Businessman

I have taken Ambien a few times, just make sure you go to bed right after you take them...
The thing I like about Ambien is there no w/d from taking them like you can get with the Valium.
At least for me there was none...you just get used to taking something for sleep then when you don't you don't sleep...

Good luck and let us know how it goes with them...

Talk to you later, Melinda

[Businessman1]

Thanks

Maybe I'll ask my girlfriend to handcuff me to the bed - that really didn't sound right......

Luckily, I have nothing in the fridge, so as long as I don't set my apartment on fire I'm golden.

[TPirog]

Go to http;//www.benzowithdrawal.com. It'a a benzo support group. Find out about the evils of benzos, and how they destroy people. I and many others were utterly incapacitated by them, and our shrinks tried every mecication in the book on us and they only made us worse. We never get better until we understand the demon benzo is the culprit.

You can read my story at http://www.ashtonbenzomanual.com

Good luck.

Tony

[TPirog]

Originally Posted by Robert_325

Benzos can cause dreams especially at high doses. And following a high dose of any benzo it isn't uncommon to feel anxiety.

Taking 15-20mg of xanax is entirely too much. That isn't even close to being a medicinal dose. That's up to ten 2mg bars. That is not a wise thing to do.

Dealing with opiate detox is obviously no fun. I think your problem is a combination of opiate detox and too much xanax. Hope that helps. God bless.

She said 15-20 mg Valium, which is equivalent to one 2 mg bar of Xanax or less according to the Ashton Manual (see: http://www.ashtonbenzomanual.com)

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by TPirog

She said 15-20 mg Valium, which is equivalent to one 2 mg bar of Xanax or less according to the Ashton Manual (see: http://www.ashtonbenzomanual.com)

It's a HE and not a SHE. If you read the next post you would see that I said that I realized he was talking about valium not xanax. You are NOT sharing anything new regarging the Dr Ashton's method for benzo detox. Lots of us have used it here for years. God bless.

[TPirog]

Apologies. Got ahead of myself. Glad you all know about benzo withdrawal. It's rare to find any group who does understand. Awesome!

Oh and sorry for getting your gender wrong, Businessman1 dude.

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by TPirog

Apologies. Got ahead of myself. Glad you all know about benzo withdrawal. It's rare to find any group who does understand. Awesome!

Oh and sorry for getting your gender wrong, Businessman1 dude.

No problem no apology required but always appreciated. You're right very few people have a lot of knowledge about benzo detox. I certainly wouldn't say that I know everything about benzo detox but I have been there and done it both the wrong way and the right way.

Dr Heather Ashton's method is a little conservative but it's the best thing out there as a guide that I know of. It's conservative enough where even someone online can take it and make it work. She was smart to make it a little conservative rather than agressive. I usually refer people to www.benzo.org.uk to pull up the manual. Have a great day. God bless.

[Businessman1]

um, well I'm glad we got that straight.

[Businessman1]

BTW I went without the benzos last night and still had horrible overly vivid dreams. Good news is much less anxiety today so one mystery solved. I'm not sure I get benzos. They are meant to relax you but also give you anxiety?

Maybe it's the flexeril that gives me nightmares? I've been taking 30mg of that before bed too.

Or it could be the melatonin...

[TPirog]

Originally Posted by Businessman1

BTW I went without the benzos last night and still had horrible overly vivid dreams. Good news is much less anxiety today so one mystery solved. I'm not sure I get benzos. They are meant to relax you but also give you anxiety?

Them's what they call "paradoxical symptoms" and it is extremely common and can be utterly debilitating.

(I wonder why they submitted my previous post "for approval?")

[xTerm]

Or it could be the melatonin...

That is one of the reasons that I cannot take melatonin, it gives me very strange dreams.
My doc gave me a script for Rozeram (sp?) a couple of years ago and I took just a few of them and then threw them out.
The other reason is even worse though, for a couple of days after taking just one dose I stay very tired
all day long, almost like a temporary depression.
After a couple of days i feel normal and the feeling didnt return, unless i took more melatonin.

[Businessman1]

I threw it out too. My girlfriend read me the side effects and they sounded terrible.

It's like a lot of drugs here I've noticed. Every TV ad is "having trouble sleeping? well take this new pill. Warning Pill causes anxiety, delusions, paranoia, liver failure, kidney failure, heart failure and certain death. My doctor told me this pill is not for everyone, it's not for people with head's or arms or woman that might want to become pregnant ever."

There is still nothing better than alcohol. it cures all evil for about 5 hours.