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    Quote Originally Posted by buckndaodds View Post
    Breakeron,

    Thank you for the suggestion. I have been leaning towards the Oxycontin figuring that it would be much stronger than the Hydrocodone.

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    im in a delima at this time and have a call in to doc again - presently on hydro 10/325 every 4 hrs - have been for over 2 yrs - they work for about 3 hrs - been trying the fentanyl patch 50mcr/hr at 72 hrs - seems too many side effects from patch- also patch seems to only extend time between pills by one hr of the dose recommended or 2 hrs from the 3 hr time i acually need to take the 10/325 hydrocodone/apap ------- thinking I need back on oxy codone but what dose ? needs to be approx to a 15/325 hydrocodone - which they dont make

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkhowl View Post
    im in a delima at this time and have a call in to doc again - presently on hydro 10/325 every 4 hrs - have been for over 2 yrs - they work for about 3 hrs - been trying the fentanyl patch 50mcr/hr at 72 hrs - seems too many side effects from patch- also patch seems to only extend time between pills by one hr of the dose recommended or 2 hrs from the 3 hr time i acually need to take the 10/325 hydrocodone/apap ------- thinking I need back on oxy codone but what dose ? needs to be approx to a 15/325 hydrocodone - which they dont make
    The good news it that once you get above 10 mg of oxy they drop the apap out of the pills. For exapamle they do infact have 15mg oxy but it is lacking any tylenol (which is a good thing). They also have 20, 30, 60 and 80. Canada has an even high option at 160. This is also true for oxycontin (extended release version which are going to be changing very soon per FDA to a much harder matrix that cannot be crushed) of which no versions include any amounts of apap.

    Seeing how you have been on Fen patches already I think the next step would be 30 mg oxycodone as needed. They can be broken into half for 15mg doses easily enough even though they are very small pills they are also pretty soft. If your HC provider is not keen to a jump to 30 mg there is the 15 and 20 options but those are much more uncommon. My point being; you have been at the top with Fen patches I think 30mg of oxy IR or codone stndard would not be unreasonable. Of course; I would advise taking it easy at first by doing half, because you never know how you will react to a higher dose. It would be of course the same as three of your 10/325 without the 975 mg of liver kicking tylenol. Hope this help some.

    Im not a doctor but have been undergoing pain management for 10 years and as always nothing works exactly the same for every person. Its between you and your doctor to hammer out all the details. Thats what that copay is for at the end of each visit is for. And if you dont have a copay but get a bill for trice the amount that your freinds insuracne company pays then I would suggest you vote for Obama again come the next election. It may not be a perfect plan but by golly its somthing.
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    Have any of you with serious pain used Tramadol? I just discovered it on the Web, haven't tried it.
    I've had chronic abdominal pain for a year now and have tried several different pain medications.

    My doctor has tried to put me on tramadol... in my opinion its worthless.. I got no pain relief whatsoever.

    In the hospital I recieved Diluadid through an IV every two hours which really supressed the pain. They also tried Lyrica (thinking it was nerve pain) and got me up to 500mg with no relief. When they released me, they gave me percocet ( I believe 5mg...). My internist has had me on hydrocodone now for the past 7 months. It works to an extent (I've built up a tolerance and have to take 2 every 4 hours instead of 1).

    I've seen numerous doctors, specialists, had countless scans, and several different "treatments" at pain management clinics. Nothing has helped except the pain medicines, and I still have NO DIAGNOSIS. I feel like my life has been taken away

    My regular M.D. says he cannot continue to perscribe me my pain medication and that I need to find a pain management clinic and stick with it. I'm frustrated by this because the last PM clinic I went to would not perscribe me anything except a muscle relaxer that completely knocked me out.

    I'm wondering if anyone has any advice... I live in St. Louis MO, and I'm trying to get into see a Pain specialist at Barnes Jewish...

    I wouldn't wish this upon anyone, and I know a lot of other people are suffering from chronic pain like me...

    I wish everyone the best!

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    By far, oxycodone is stronger than hydrocodone. I am a nurse as well as a chronic pain sufferer. Every day since my teens (I am 53 now) I have awoken with a headache in the occipital area. That is until I saw a pain specialist here in Miami, Dr Abel Murillo. We tried injections of marcaine into the area, several times, without success. Finally we decided on a subcutaneous stimulator for pain relief. It worked, no more headaches. Side effect though is that the stimulator causes spasms in the muscles in the neck. For this, he prescribed oxycodone, clonazepam and flexeril.
    The pharmacy I use did not have the full supply of oxycodone last month, so they did me a "favor". They filled 40 tabs and arranged to get the remaining 50 from one of their other stores. I picked up the final 50 on Dec 27 and that was the day that was entered as the day I got the script filled. This month, after my usual appointment for the prescription, I brought it to Walgreens (the only pharmacy that had all 90 tabs) and they would not fill it as the insurance says I last got it filled on Dec 27.
    I called Dr. Murillo and explained the situation, he spoke with Publix Pharmacy who told him that this was the case, so he wrote a script for hydrocodone (Vicodin) and that was easily filled.
    I can tell you now, after 2 days of taking Vicodin vs oxycodone that there is a big difference between the two. I am taking 1-2 Vicodin now where I only had to take one oxycodone. Thank God, I will be able to get the script for oxycodone filled on Jan 27. Yes there is a difference!

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    Having worked on an orthopedic floor for many years, I can tell you that the first "back surgery"--probably a laminectomy, will lead to another and another and another. Before going under the knife, consider alternatives. Subcutaneous pain stimulation works wonders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckndaodds View Post
    Hello to all,

    My first post as I just joined your community today. That was the result of finally finding a site that wasn't packed in sewage with regards to painkillers. No, I don't want to crush and shoot, or do I give a rats fanny what a Dilaudid sells for on the street.

    I am a sixty year old male with severe back problems. Have had for years now. I don't want to go under the knife as they don't offer what I consider a decent percentage chance of coming out any better than when I go in.

    I have been using Norco's for pain relief for the past six years. I"m at a point where there are no longer effective in a safe dose due to the Tylenol. It takes 30mg of the Hydrocodone to give me a period of relief and I am forced to decide which days I live with the pain and those I don't.

    I asked my Doctor for a "breakthrough" pain reliever this last visit and "we" decided to try Dilaudid. He wrote a script for 2mg x 2 a day. My intention was to use whatever was necessary on those days I needed to. Unfortunately, I have found no relief with them. 8mg was not as effective as the 30mg of Hydrocodone.
    I assume that is just me, as others derive great benefit for the Dilaudid.

    Upon my next visit to the Doctor I want to be informed and prepared to discuss other options with him. What I am looking for is more pain relief with less Tylenol. To bad they don't market anything better than the 10/325's, as I find the Hydrocodone works well for me.

    I have been considering both Percodan, with aspirin or Oxycontin without any filler. As this board seems to have members that have been down this road before, I thought perhaps I could get some decent information on what works for you.

    If Hydrocodone works for me and Dilaudid does not, is it because one is synthetic and the other isn't? And if Hydrocodone works for me, will Percodan or Oxycontin be more apt to?

    Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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    Hello Buck you should talk to your doctor about METHADONE its very strong and long acting.

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    I was a water/sewer worker (laborer) for 25 years - I've had 10 operations along with all the wear and tear from constant vibrations - jackhammers/ shoveling. 4 right shoulder ops, 2 ops for sigmoid colon burst and remove, 3 hernia ops, spinal L4/5 sciatic op.
    Still have abnormal wear to both heels, knee problems, right wrist C T and Ulnar problems, major right hip arthritus, dizzy spells...

    I was on Hydrocodone 5/ 550 for 7 years - it gave me about 2 hours of pretty good relief (when it worked) - because of the hip and shoulder both on the right side - it was very hard to sleep - averaged 3 hours at a time, and only could sleep when I was totally exhausted. The hydrocodnoe would wake me up - without it I was a total slug - so any relief, gave me energy. I couldn't sleep at all if I took a hydrocodone before I attempted sleep - also cramped (hands and feet) as soon as I laid down.

    Switched to oxycodone 5/325, 7 days ago - not getting nearly the relief I was getting on the hydrocodone - but so far I have been able to fall asleep when I lay down - still takes about an hour to get somewhat comfortable.

    Will I still fall asleep if I go up in the dosage of Oxycodone? I sure miss the relief the hydrocodone gave me - but after 10 years of not sleeping when I want to, the oxy is a big bonus. I don't think there is a perfect solution. Thanks for reading.

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    Oxycodone is stronger

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    Talking Oxycodone HCL 10MG from percocet.

    I was on percocet 3 a day then I was put on Hydrocodone 3 day. My liver became enlarged and enzymes were high. I was placed on the Oxycodone no Tylenol. I'm hurting worse than ever... I take 2 a day any body know what I should do. I've been hurting for so long now. I'm about to go crazy...thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leigh424 View Post
    I was on percocet 3 a day then I was put on Hydrocodone 3 day. My liver became enlarged and enzymes were high. I was placed on the Oxycodone no Tylenol. I'm hurting worse than ever... I take 2 a day any body know what I should do. I've been hurting for so long now. I'm about to go crazy...thanks





    Don't know how long ago your liver bloodwork was done and you got off the acetaminophen with the percs and hydros. But if you are still suffering abdominal pain for very long after switching to the oxy you should see your dr. The liver is resilient and should recover pretty quickly. I would not take this one on without knowing all the specifics. God bless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcor256 View Post
    which is the stronger one ???

    5mg oxycodone or 5mg hydrocodone??

    or are they the exact same thing???

    thanks for any help!
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    Hello.

    5mg of Hydrocodone is equivalent to about 3.33mg of Oxycodone.

    Oxycodone is stronger than both Hydrocodone and even Morphine (1.5x stronger than Morphine).

    1mg of Hydrocodone is equivalent to 1mg of Morphine. Of course everything I am comparing in strength here and telling you is on a factual basis for oral medication, meaning pills and not abusing the pills.

    If you are looking to get high, then I hope my post did not help you make a decision that will make you become an addict, get you all strung out, and ruin your life as well as lead you into all legal drama.

    Please don't ever quote me. I am studying to become a Doctor. There are times that I am wrong, but in most cases my research is accurate. I also read posts thoroughly to ensure that the advice that I am giving is best for the poster. May the Titty of the Puff be with you all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychmajor View Post
    the higher the Schedual (oxy being a 2nd and hydro being a 4 i think...) the stronger they tend to be (hense the higher addictive qualities of the drugs) the patches i dont really know how well they work since when i worked in a pharmacy only 1 person ever got them and he was on morphine sulfate at the same time (crazy right?!)......... By the way placebo effect is = to Morphine in dealing with physical pain. Doctors should lie to patients and tell them its a high cost, strong med that doesnt give euphoria... would cut down on perscription dependance/addiction
    I signed up just to say Doctors should NEVER lie to their patients and you are a complete ass if you think that's ok. You need a transfusion. "Oh yeah we screened this blood" BAM now you have AIDS. It is NEVER EVER ok to lie concerning your personal medical concerns.

    You have obviously never been in extreme pain for months on end or you would realize that aside from chemical proof morphine DOES help with severe pain and it is in no way a placebo effect.

    I'm going to become rich after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet .
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    Psychmajor .... Please don't give false information under the pretense that you worked in a pharmacy. Did you sweep floors? Just for the record oxy is a schedule II and hydrocodone is a schedule III narcotic, not a schedule IV. And for the record the lower schedule II narcotics are much stronger than the higher schedule III or IV. SEESH!!! And you used to work in a pharmacy? Hope you didn't give any consultations to patients.

    So you think that drs lying to patients is good? So it's okay for drs to lie to patients, but patients who lie to obtain meds illegally or dr shop are faced with a potential felony and jail time! That is a crock! You keep coming up with junk like this over and again and it amazes me! Has is ever crossed your mind that everyone should just tell the freakin truth and we would ALL be a LOT better off?


    poopdawhoop ..... You're a HOOT!!! Let me know when you come up with that invention. I would like to buy your first one! God bless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poopdawhoop View Post
    I signed up just to say Doctors should NEVER lie to their patients and you are a complete ass if you think that's ok. You need a transfusion. "Oh yeah we screened this blood" BAM now you have AIDS. It is NEVER EVER ok to lie concerning your personal medical concerns.

    You have obviously never been in extreme pain for months on end or you would realize that aside from chemical proof morphine DOES help with severe pain and it is in no way a placebo effect.

    I'm going to become rich after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet .
    bahahahaha, excellent dude. excellent.... hats off to ya

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    Your responses to Poopdawhoop are almost as funny as his post!
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    Smile Thank you, thank you, thank you!!

    As I lay here on my floor, taking Oxycodone after Oxycodone (about 10mg every 4 hours) for my sciatica flair up,,,, I've always wondered about oxycontin. An early readers explanation of his pain killer experience has enlightened me to alternate choices!! I'm not addictive (meaning I can pop percocet for 4-6 straight weeks and not develop any addiction to it), so I definitely think oxycontin is in my near future!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bussman24 View Post
    As I lay here on my floor, taking Oxycodone after Oxycodone (about 10mg every 4 hours) for my sciatica flair up,,,, I've always wondered about oxycontin. An early readers explanation of his pain killer experience has enlightened me to alternate choices!! I'm not addictive (meaning I can pop percocet for 4-6 straight weeks and not develop any addiction to it), so I definitely think oxycontin is in my near future!!




    If you are lying in the floor taking oxycodone you have a serious problem whether you think you do or not. Is there a reason for lying in the floor to take your medication? I don't mean to sound like a smart ass I'm serious! If you're in the floor taking oxy then you need to get to the dr. And there are other meds besides oxycontin that your dr can discuss with you. Oxycontin is the devil! And I am a chronic pain patient too! I know about pain and I would advise you to seek quality medical attention today. God bless.
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    You guys are full of info, thanks so much. I have been on hydro for 2 years straight and went to a diff doc today and finally had someone understand that I have cronic back pain that is not going anywhere anytime soon! I have osteoarthritis in L5 and S1 and degenerative disk of course.. Was in a semi accident at 16 then bit by a black widow 2 years ago which caused something to move or whatever during one of the convulsions from the bite and yea pain hasn't stopped since.. The new doc wants me to try to oxy she gave me 100 of the 10mg to cut in half and hope it works.. The hydro doesn't work after continuous use for 2 years this past sept. .. I feel like I have to take more and more on some days hoping for relief. Its nice to know you aren't alone, but it sucks to know that others suffer constantly like you do.. I am going to turn 32 next month.. sooo ready for them to come out with something to make it stop....
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    Hurt my lower back at work 14+ years ago....started out taking 1 5mg Vicodin daily...at bedtime.....over the years I increased my intake. Of course...another 13 years of factory work and now also having chronic pain in my shoulders & neck(along with the now diagnosed bulging disc in my lower back)...I was at 5 7.5 vicoprofens a DAY..150 a month. I stopped taking Vicodin and Vicoprofen because of the amount of Acet..& IBIprofen I was ingesting every month.I asked my doctor for OXYCOTIN. He gave me 180 5mg pills a month. That's 6 a day. I find Vicodin to be more pleasant AND it seemed to last longer than a 5mg Oxycotin. Problem is ..it seems..I'm getting used to the OXY much faster than I did the Vicoprofen.....I'm going though the Oxys abit faster...10mg would work better....SURE I'm VERY Mentally addicted.....when I get low on meds...I feel terrible and the pain burns and I can;t focus or feel like doing much.I also take one 200mg Tramadol a day when I run out or get low...saving the OXY for nighttime.I'm mixed about TRAMADOL..it works GREAT...but it enlarges my prostrate...not a good feeling & I have had 2 episodes of SEVERE HEAD PAIN..the I want to DIE kind with vomiting....I can't sleep very long with the lower back pain...Can anyone sleep with chronic pain? I've been off work for 8 months and the pain levels in my shoulders DOES NOT CHANGE.I'm yet to get a MRI for my upper back....I believe,over the years...working and using meds to mask the pain..I may have really done some damage..Anyone know about chronic pain associated with neve damage? All this thanks to WORKMAN'S COMP..NEVER DOING A DAMN THING FOR ME...I had to go to my doctor to get an MRI for my lower back....no wonder WC did not want to pay for one!!!! Anyway....I'm thinking of going back to VICOPROFEN..I have to go to a new doctor(Mine is ending his practice)...I can't wait to see how she responds to my med needs..Sure I'd like to search out alternatives..I get massage,Therapy...exercise...nothing changes...WTHell...Am I to live with Chronic pain now the rest of my life?

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    hello all, your post have made me laugh and cry...i had a living donor kidney transplant over 15+ years ago and have developed entire body joint pain and just the aching of my bones all over, to read some of these stories makes me angry at alot of these doctors but mine are just the same for the most part, i have a very high pain tolerance but the amount of pain i experience is unbelievable, none of my doctors can diagnose me with anything specific, my best answer is that my anti-rejection drugs in combination over time have caused this, which scares the s*&^ out of me because my oldest nephew was diagnosed last year with my exact same medical condition, i have tried alot of things: i am immune to morphine (great), i was on high doses of vicodin and acetaminophen but that didn't work much either my body got use to it until i upped it too much to be safe for anyone (3, 500mg extra strength acetaminophen and 2, 750mg vicodin) in one shot, several times a day, now i am on a drug call nucynta, it works very well but is a class II federal narcotic, i don't feel good about this but if it is my only way to feel some sense of normalcy and being able to function, i'd take just about anything....my greatest fear is for my oldest nephew and what he will have to endure, i have surrendured my body to science and have instructed all my doctors to test me to the fullest for either finding a cure or better way of life for him, if it takes mine in the process, oh well, as it is now, in addition to everything else i have splitting headaches, can't sleep, vomit the occassional I WANT TO DIE kind of way, and have been forced to change careers after being fired from all my jobs for "performance" and "medical" reasons, thanks for reading...good luck to all of you in your search for relief

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    Smile I would be wary of Ultram or its generic tramadol

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    Have any of you with serious pain used Tramadol? I just discovered it on the Web, haven't tried it.
    First of all, I found that tramadol wasn't very effective. I was used to stronger meds but I told my doc I didn't want anything non-narcotic. He gave me Ultram. It was expensive and, from my perspective, not too effective. I stopped taking it. Shortly thereafter, my wife, thinking I looked depressed, suggested that I get our family doctor to give me some Pristique, which is one of those new antidepressants like Lexapro but it not only slows your reuptake of serotonin but also epinephrine. Anyway, I was ok up until my back started hurting again and I got my Ultram filled. If you look in the VERY fine print I believe you'll find Ultram can raise your serotonin level as well. Anyway, I started to have tremors and some pretty damned bad symptoms that can result in death. I had what's called "serotonin syndrome." I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I woke up in the hospital. In my opinion, narcotic pain meds are much safer that Ultram (They're tried and true and have been around a long time). That is, unless you've shown an inclination to become psychologically addicted to them. I took them for years for chronic pain and never got psychologically addicted. The only problem was I had to avoid using them while working and when they started testing (after almost 10 years of no problems) my tests were often negative for pain meds--doesn't sound too psychologically hooked to me. However, the docs want to see their prescriptions in your bloodstream. One one occasion I took half a dose at night because I had work early in the morning and then a whole dose after work. That doc let me go because the med wasn't "fully metablolized." For God's sake, give me a break. I've never done anything illegal with these things and for all the "high" they produce, they may as well be aspirin (I realize they affect people differently). But just because some use it to get high is no reason I should suffer. Same goes for waiting in line at the pharmacist to get pseudoephedrine. Anyway, I'm now stuck with a lot of pain and will have to find some doc who's more concerned with his patients than his license (extremely rare). But one thing's for sure: I won't be taking Ultram.

    PS--If anyone knows a good, understanding pain doc (or clinic) that I could work with, I'd appreciate it (even if he/she could get me a referral) if you'd let me know about him/her. For the record, I've tried PT, diet, stretching exercises, chiropractic, and God knows what else. I may have developed arthritis and will treat that as soon as I get another doc (I had one visit with such a doc and he left the country--hope I didn't drive him away!).

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    hi just read what you were saying about the fentanyl patches. I tried then for about a month and they made me really sick. Found out that i cant take morphine looking at the alternatives. wondering if oxy or hydro will be any better
    Oxy or hydro are not replacements for a long-acting medication like Fentanyl, except possibly oxycontin, which is time-released. Your tolerance plays a huge part of that switch, long-acting medications are usually stronger. If you need to be started on a long-acting medication there are a lot of choices. The Fentanyl may have made you sick because it was too strong (or it released too much medication at one time) There are still a lot of choices other than morphine, like oxycontin, OpanaER, methadone (which I personally detest due to it's incredibly long half life & resulting dosing issues, among other things! But you never know, every drug is very different to every person! I would do research on any drug you take) & there is a new medication called Exalgo ER, which my Dr. told me today is time-released Dilaudid. Dilaudud has only been made in the short-acting formulation in the US, other short acting meds: hydrocodone, Percocet, demerol, oxycodone ( with and w/out the tylenol). Usually a Dr will have you on a long-term medication with something short-acting for breakthrough pain, such as Oxycontin (long-acting) twice a day, supposed to last 12hrs per pill with Percocet, hydrocodone, dilaudid, of different strengths or a similar short-acting medication for "breakthrough pain". That is the usual protocol. Hope this helps in some way, best of luck to you
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    well i doubt the writer will see this post but i dont want ppl to get the wrong info. morphine is not stronger than oxycodone. oxy is actually 4 times stronger than morphine so be careful what u listen to

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    Quote Originally Posted by richp11222 View Post
    well i doubt the writer will see this post but i dont want ppl to get the wrong info. morphine is not stronger than oxycodone. oxy is actually 4 times stronger than morphine so be careful what u listen to



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    Psychmajor, I realize this response was posted by you long ago, while kindly taking the time to be of help. I just wanted to offer you the following information for your own edification. Please accept it as a gesture of professional friendship in a private venue. Best wishes, Childofpain, M.D.

    All of the hydrocodone products currently available are classified as Schedule III controlled substances, while oxycodone medications are Schedule II controlled substances. This means that oxycodone products have more of an abuse potential, compared with hydrocodone products. Oxycodone prescriptions cannot have refills (a new prescription is required each time) and cannot be phoned in or faxed to a pharmacy. Hydrocodone prescriptions can have refills (up to six refills in five months), and your healthcare provider may phone in or fax the prescription to your pharmacy. Written by/reviewed by: Kristi Monson, PharmD; Arthur Schoenstadt, MD

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckndaodds View Post
    Hello to all,

    I have been using Norco's for pain relief for the past six years. I"m at a point where there are no longer effective in a safe dose due to the Tylenol. It takes 30mg of the Hydrocodone to give me a period of relief and I am forced to decide which days I live with the pain and those I don't.

    Upon my next visit to the Doctor I want to be informed and prepared to discuss other options with him. What I am looking for is more pain relief with less Tylenol. To bad they don't market anything better than the 10/325's, as I find the Hydrocodone works well for me.
    I, like you, resond well to hydrocodone, but don't want the Tylenol. I am getting a compounded prescription from my doctor for 40mg hydrocodone, prepared at the pharmacy withOUT the tylonol. You have to have a compounding pharmacy that you can use, and you need to check with your insurance company to see if you are covered for compounded medications. I am not covered, so I pay $45 for a bottle of 120 capsules every month, but I am not in pain. My doctor says that we can work our way up to 60mg in this fashion.

    I hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cats Meow View Post
    Actually a Percocet 7.5 is equal to a hydrocodone 10, and oxycodone is stronger then morphine.
    I agree , time released meds DO NOT work on me, had them in Morhine oxycontin, and patches, and methadone Only thing I get relieve with is oxycodone

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    Quote Originally Posted by richp11222 View Post
    well i doubt the writer will see this post but i dont want ppl to get the wrong info. morphine is not stronger than oxycodone. oxy is actually 4 times stronger than morphine so be careful what u listen to
    I agree oxyecodone is STRONGER then morphine. I was switched from oxecodone to morphine, both fast acting and time released, not near the pain killing help. I am back on straight oxecodone, and doing well. Lots of people want zero pain and fuzzy heads, just get the pain to where its liveable, the more you take to reach zero pain or a high , will mean stronger and stronger doses,

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruby2oozdy View Post
    Have any of you with serious pain used Tramadol? I just discovered it on the Web, haven't tried it.
    I was on 100ug Fentanyl, later with 30mg Roxicodone(breakthrough) for 11 years, ending in 4/2012 because of move and a theft (of my Meds)during our move. The withdrawal sucked. I knew I could not get proper Meds until we reached our destination(left south Florida 4/2012 and intended on arriving NorCal 8/2012 or 9/2012, wanted to see the country on the way) I got Percocet at first from ERs and knew this was going to be very hard traveling, eventually I realized if I went on Tramadol to control withdrawal and not the pain, it would be easier, pain always sucks and I never have a day without pain since 2000, but I would rather have pain and no withdrawals than both. So I started asking for Tramadol(100mg) wherever I found myself cross country. Drs had no hesitation giving me Tramadol, but did with Perc, etc. The Tramadol worked on making pain somewhat tolerable, but only (Oxy AND fentanyl) give me periods where pain is not noticeable unless I fixate on it or strain myself. Tramadol did give me a short duration where I felt OK and could function. I have 10 damaged discs, bad right shoulder(3 repair surgeries) and joint replacement in left shoulder after MRSA and severe muscle loss in left shoulder, so my pain is not just minor spine, or nerves, etc, it is more like duct tape on broken parts with a few pieces missing, in other words, Always there can't be fixed. So if you want to get high on Tramadol, don't bother, if you want to try for REAL pain, it MIGHT work, maybe not, your pain only can tell. I will tell you I had no noteworthy side effects as the other opiates have, except I had something very few get, a sort of allergy to Tramadol that developed over time, extremely rare and has not been reported by manufacturers.

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