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Old 01-09-2008, 01:25 PM
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I have been on Methadone for about 3 years now. I have taking everything under the sun for back pain and nothing worked. Methadone yes can be abused and it is up the person/doctor on how it should be takin. Nobody really knows what there kids are up to when they are out of there presence or what they do. Like i said i had a friend who died of Methadone and Xanax he only did it to himself. Methadone can be abused and dangerous but so can any other drug. It is up to you and only you how you take your medicine. If you take it as prescribed you should be fine, if not then you are taking a chance. I think Methadone should be givin to someone who has takin opiates, for someone who has never takin them should start out slow with something else then move on to Methadone. methadone does work really well for my back, i am not happy to say that i am on it but it helps my back and i can go to work everyday and that is all i want. I am very sorry for all the losses that many of you have experienced,but you have to look further into how the medicine was takin before you make judgement on it.
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:57 AM
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Hey, I'm on methadone maintenance and have been for 3 months. I'm at 80 mgs, and have gotten there very gradually. Today I took 1.5 mgs of xanax. Than I read all these things online about people dying from the combonation. Most of those people were abusing methadone on the streets and taking lots of xanax. My body is used to the methadone, and the xanax was so minute. If anyone else has mixed these two successfully, please let me know. I feel completely fine now. I took the methadone around 7:45 am, and I took the xanax around 2:30. Should I be worried about going to bed tonight and not waking up? I also take seroquel to sleep, 300 mgs. Anyone out there know whats up?

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I used to get the same thing all the time from people. I am not by any means encouraging people to mix drugs, but i have never had a problem mixing my methadone and any benzo; whether it be xanax, clonopin, valium etc. I am now down to 60 mg of methadone and about 2mg xanax a day on average and i feel just fine. never even had a fear that i was going to stop breathing, or never even felt sick at all. Even when i was taking 145mg of methadone when i was going to the clinic i was taking like 3mg of xanax a day and even some valium on top of that and never felt worried. BUT LIKE I SAID DO NOT TRY THIS. I HAVE A HUGE TOLERANCE AND AM TALKING TO OTHERS WHO HAVE A TOLERANCE. i don't know about the seroquel though. that's a whole other line of drugs that i've never really messed around with. i mixed it with about 120mg of oxy once and it made me really irritable and in and out of consciousness, idk though maybe it was just the oxy.

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Bottom line is that lots of people have suffered and even died due to this mix of drugs. Methadone and benzos are not a good mix, or I should say not a recommended mix. That is not saying that some people don't do okay taking methadone and benzos.

I know that I did lots of things between the time I started using in 1968 until the day I finally got clean. Undoubtedly some of those things would have killed some people even if it didn't affect me adversely for whatever reason. Just because we beat death and don't overdose, or don't suffer a heart attack, or whatever, I would certainly never try to convince anyone else that what I did was okay. Surely wouldn't want someone else's death due to me spouting off about how this is okay or that is okay on my hands.

If someone is going to mix other drugs with methadone the point is that it should only be done under the care of a dr. Lots of us take combinations of medication that isn't always recommended. But we take it for some medicinal reason (or that is the way it should take place anyway). Scoring some xanax and mixing it with methadone is a DUMB and irresponsible thing to do. We are playing Russian Roulette doing that especially if not under the care of a doctor. If we choose to do it I guess it's our choice. But we certainly shouldn't ever try to convince anyone else that it's safe and okay for them to do.

OC80mg ... at least you told people NOT to do what you did. I will give you that. Be careful.

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Nobody can give advice to another about this. I am on 135mg methadone daily. Also about 10 mg xanax daily. I dont come close to overdoseing. Ive taken 30 xanax and was fine to go to my nephews school play. they didnt affect me at all. Thats my point. Everybodys bodys are diffrent. Our physiology, time it takes to absorb the drugs into our bodies, all play a role whether someone will o.d. or not. Diffrent peoples weight, among all the other variables, it's impossible to give any kind of advice about that on a forum. If Gettin high is worth risking your life then go for it. If not then be careful mixing these two. It is a deadly combination. Mostly to people who obtain it frm the street. Not to many people die if they get the xanax from a doctor and the Meth from a clinic, (like my situation is). It deeply saddened me to hear the posters on here who have lost loved ones. That is very tragic. But Methadone and xanax gave me my life back. I no longer have to chase heroin and oxycontin around stealing from my loved ones. And the xanax gets rid of my anxiety and panic long enough that I am able to attend my nephews games and not be a nervous wreck on christmas eve and Xmas day. So these drugs may be deadly but they let me get my life as normal as possible right now. And Im very thankful for that. God bless all who have lost loved ones to drugs. God knows I have too.
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Nobody can give advice to another about this. I am on 135mg methadone daily. Also about 10 mg xanax daily. I dont come close to overdoseing. Ive taken 30 xanax and was fine to go to my nephews school play. they didnt affect me at all. Thats my point. Everybodys bodys are diffrent. Our physiology, time it takes to absorb the drugs into our bodies, all play a role whether someone will o.d. or not. Diffrent peoples weight, among all the other variables, it's impossible to give any kind of advice about that on a forum. If Gettin high is worth risking your life then go for it. If not then be careful mixing these two. It is a deadly combination. Mostly to people who obtain it frm the street. Not to many people die if they get the xanax from a doctor and the Meth from a clinic, (like my situation is). It deeply saddened me to hear the posters on here who have lost loved ones. That is very tragic. But Methadone and xanax gave me my life back. I no longer have to chase heroin and oxycontin around stealing from my loved ones. And the xanax gets rid of my anxiety and panic long enough that I am able to attend my nephews games and not be a nervous wreck on christmas eve and Xmas day. So these drugs may be deadly but they let me get my life as normal as possible right now. And Im very thankful for that. God bless all who have lost loved ones to drugs. God knows I have too.


You are absolutely correct about our bodies all being different and drugs affecting us all differently. I am very happy for you that methadone and xanax has given you some freedoms you had previously lost. That is good news. And I mean that sincerely.

I have also taken potentially lethal doses of medications by prescription that helped me. I wouldn't recommend those same doses for others though just because it worked for me. I'm afraid there would NEVER be a time when I would say a 30mg dose of xanax is appropriate for going to a school play even if it did nothing to you. That is just not a smart thing to do or advise others to do. Please understand that when addressing a forum like this full of people from around the world that we have to talk about what works for the masses not the one exception to the rule.

The facts are that methadone and xanax are a potentially lethal combination for lots (the majority) of people. I will have to continue to give that advice to anyone who asks because of the laws of large numbers and how it affects most people. You have got to understand that philosophy. It's the only valid way to give advice like this. I hope that you continue to do well. God bless.
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Old 03-25-2009, 12:08 PM
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Unhappy Mixing Methadone & Xanax

I have been on and off of Methadone for the past seven years. I will go through a Methadone Detox after getting back on Heroin for a while after detoxing spend 1-3 years clean and repeat the process. I have currently been on Methadone since November of 07. I have mixed Methadone and Xanax 2gether to simulate the feeling I have when I am on dope before I am strung out and just trying to stay well. To me it is just another way for me to chase that feeling of euphoria. This mix is dangerous as ******** I have passed out and wrecked my cars countless times. I broke my leg on one occasion and my neck on another. Not to mention waking up and having pissed all over myself multiple times because my bodies involuntary muscles had lost control of themselves. This mix of drugs is no joke and is like playing russian roulet Eventually you will kill yourself if you keep playing with it.

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I have been on methadone maintenance for 24 years. It is one drug that I can truly say saved my life, enables me to live a drug-free life, good job, supportive family. Though I'm on a relatively low dose (30mg/day), I would never mix it with any benzos. It's playing Russian roulette, even being stable on methadone you never know when the combination can be lethal. I look at my daily dose of methadone (having been clean for so long, I only have to go once a month to pick up my diskettes) the same way I look at my high blood pressure med (lisinopril 20mg) which I'll be taking for the rest of my life. You wouldn't tell a diabetic that he's been on insulin long enough and it's time to stop. I obviously have a problem with endorphins and the methadone enables to live a life w/out searching for opiates. Addiction, diabetes, hypertension, these are diseases that can be controlled with medication. The only objection I have is that I can't go to my family doctor for the methadone and have to get it from a clinic at a high price. Methadone is a very inexpensive drug and I should be able to get it from my physician for a few dollars a month instead of having to pay a clinic upwards of $400/month when I only have to show up once a month. There are a few states (Maryland and New York are 2 I know of) that allow OBOT (office based opioid treatment) where you can get your meds from a doctor and not the expensive clinic system we have today....especially for compliant patients. Thanks.
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Really, 1.5mg? The only way that can kill anyone is if you were somehow shrunk down to about 1/1000 of your size and then took the 1.5 mg which wold then be equivalent of 1500 mgs. Seriously though, are you kidding? I take 200mgs methadone maintenance therapy DAILY. That is not enough methadone to do anything AT ALL, get you high, quell the jones, or much less kill you.
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I've been perscribed 200mg of methadone a day for years and 4mg of xanax a day for years too. My tolorance is high to meds, all I know is at one point I was kicked out of a pain clinic (bad urine) and yeah, I partied....but I thought 19 days was enough to get the stuff (coke) out of my system, it wasn't. Anyway- I too was in line at the methadone clinic until I could get into another pain clinic, the point. I went from 160mg methadone (at the last clinic) to 30mg at the methadone clinic, although I could raise it 5mg a day for a week, I found something strange, XANAX SEEMS TO INCREASE THE EFECT OF THE METHADONE! I never believed that xanax was addictive but after I stoped taking the xanax (you can't start methadone clincs down here with being on a benzo) that you really do go through withdrawals (although not the same) on xanax. I learned that when I take the xanax I can get by with like 80-100 mg instead of 200 mg. The pain is kinda an issue but as far as getting ahead on pill count it's a good trick. Although 90% of over-doses are methadone+xanax, it's always good to know that if you know which medicines work well together you can use this (and any knowledge) to your advantage. If your goal is to get out of the methadone clinic then I would remind you (from my experience) not to confuse xanax withdawal from the methadone withdrawal, and to know that xanax can help you take less one day, leaving more for another for whatever reason. Just depends on if you're getting take-homes or not. Anyway, since I don't really know what your goal is (since your question was kinda retoricle) I just felt like offering my newly found knowlege, at least that's how it is for me, everyone is different, or at least at differnt stages.
Good luck and sorry for the long post, hope it was some help. BTW it took me 3 months to find a new family dr and get into a new pain clinic, now I am just 100% compliant, I will NEVER go through the pain of withdrawing off that kind of a dose again. Methadone withdrawals are the worst!!! I also get breakthrough meds, and no small dose, my friend was like "holly ********, you get in breakthrough what I get for the month, plus 20 dones a day" she has shown an interest in dateing me after over a year of being just friends when she saw my scripts.... Sad the power pills (drugs) have on girls, they don't even know it, but they are indirectly ho-in for them, sad. I obviously wont give her my pills, much less since I can see what' she's trying to do. So in short, if your question wasn't as retoricle as it seemed, you stand a much better chance of waking up with a buzz-slut in your bed than not waking up at all from methadone and xanax...
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I've been perscribed 200mg of methadone a day for years and 4mg of xanax a day for years too. My tolorance is high to meds, all I know is at one point I was kicked out of a pain clinic (bad urine) and yeah, I partied.................................... I found something strange, XANAX SEEMS TO INCREASE THE EFECT OF THE METHADONE! .................................................. .................
......................................... Methadone withdrawals are the worst!!! I also get breakthrough meds, and no small dose,

my friend was like "holly ********, you get in breakthrough what I get for the month, plus 20 dones a day" she has shown an interest in dateing me after over a year of being just friends when she saw my scripts.... Sad the power pills (drugs) have on girls, they don't even know it, but they are indirectly ho-in for them, sad. I obviously wont give her my pills, much less since I can see what' she's trying to do. So in short, if your question wasn't as retoricle as it seemed, you stand a much better chance of waking up with a buzz-slut in your bed than not waking up at all from methadone and xanax...



You're loading up on methadone and xanax .... got kicked out of your pain clinic .... your "friend" is "ho-in" for pills??? And she doesn't even know it?

I don't think most girls are "ho-in" for their pills. My girl and most of them here would take offense with that to be honest with you. I would be concerned waking up with a buzz-slut in my bed. Good luck and God bless.
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I posted my experiences with Xanax and Methadone in another thread so ill spare you guys the long story and just give you the summary of it.

About 5 years ago i took 40 mg's of methadone, four 10 mg tablets and two Xanax bars, 4 mg's total and set down for a night of Quake 3 gaming on my computer.
Several hours later, I was leaving the ER after having to have my heart and breathing re-started 3 times.
Its a very dangerous drug by itself but Robert, from the board here, made me aware that combining it with Xanax multiplies its danger potential by several times.

In my many years ive taken things to the extreme with very little consequence so I had no reason to think that time would be any different.
That goes to show you that a simple mistake combined with an over-confident attitude can have deadly consequences.

Now, having said all that I decided that I needed to add a few more words.

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Deaths due to the misuse of the painkilling drug methadone increased 600 percent from 1999 to 2005, according to the latest statistics from the National Center for Health Statistics. Deaths from methadone overdoes increased from 786 in 1999 to 4,462 in 2005, the agency reported.
In the first quarter of 08 there were 1000 emergencies with the stop smoking drug Chatix, including 50 deaths.
Tylenol contributed to 160 deaths and 114 deaths for Advil.. thats just for the first quarter, so that would average over 600 deaths a year for tylenol, around 460 for advil and 4000 issues and 200 deaths for the stop smoking drug Chantix..

According to one study, Tylenol is the FIFTH most dangerous drug on the market compared to Methadone, which is at number SIX and Hydrocodone, which is at number TWELVE.

Whats number ONE you ask? (drumroll...) Oxycodone

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You're loading up on methadone and xanax .... got kicked out of your pain clinic .... your "friend" is "ho-in" for pills??? And she doesn't even know it?

I don't think most girls are "ho-in" for their pills. My girl and most of them here would take offense with that to be honest with you. I would be concerned waking up with a buzz-slut in my bed. Good luck and God bless.

wow, keyboard ninja's even on the drug boards...great, there's no safe place to chat on the internet without people hacking up what you say to twist around your point...Someone askes a question and you give them the answer they ask for, and someone hacks it up to make it into something else, whatever

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wow, keyboard ninja's even on the drug boards...great, there's no safe place to chat on the internet without people hacking up what you say to twist around your point...Someone askes a question and you give them the answer they ask for, and someone hacks it up to make it into something else, whatever

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You're damn right there's keyboard ninjas here for people like you calling women hoes over pills and you saying all a big dose of methadone/xanax willd do is get you a buzz-slut. Get lost loser.
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You're damn right there's keyboard ninjas here for people like you calling women hoes over pills and you saying all a big dose of methadone/xanax willd do is get you a buzz-slut. Get lost loser.
that's not what i said. And you are right, you are a keyboard ninja. If you would Read The F**king Post, what's the use? you know you're just twisting stuff around. What do you want? an award for being, hell I don't know what you're trying to do.. Looser, lol.
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" I also get breakthrough meds, and no small dose, my friend was like "holly ********, you get in breakthrough what I get for the month, plus 20 dones a day" she has shown an interest in dateing me after over a year of being just friends when she saw my scripts.... Sad the power pills (drugs) have on girls, they don't even know it, but they are indirectly ho-in for them, sad. I obviously wont give her my pills, much less since I can see what' she's trying to do. So in short, if your question wasn't as retoricle as it seemed, you stand a much better chance of waking up with a buzz-slut in your bed than not waking up at all from methadone and xanax... "



That is a quote directly from your post. You tell me what it means if I don't understand what you meant.
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Hey dude, you are not welcome here ! You sound like someone who has a major problem w/ your attitude and addiction. Most of us are trying to get better and you come on here with this BS that is not constructive at ALL ! You might as well find another place where your type hang out and chat about abusing drugs and human beings. You are sad.
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Robert, do not even respond to this idiot. He will go away w/ his tale between his legs. It's not worth your valuable time. Lets not concern ourselves w/ these types. Just keep doing your good work.
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for a husband who doesn't act like a man worthy of being loved. I put up with this every month. I don't know how much longer I can ride the roller coaster. After being married to him for 30 years it is becoming more and more unbearable to tolerate his destructive behavior! Diane
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My sister-in-law's brother is the same age as me(35), and we both have pretty much the same history w/drugs(opiates, crystal, coke, methadone, benzos, you name it, I think we prolly done it)...about a month ago he was found laying on the bed w/his feet on the floor, like he was sitting up & just fell back. he had been like this for hours. My brother called me & asked what I thought might be going on. Jnowing he's been recently doing crack, I said it sounded like he had prolly done that or meth and took some benzos to come down and take the edge off & may have od'd. They finally found out he had bought 20 19 mg methadone pills the night before & had a bunch of clonopins. They finally checked his blood pressure & it was very low. He had thrown up & got some of it in his lungs. The er docs said he had lost so much oxygen to his brain that he'd be severely brain damaged, and prolly would never even wake up if he even lived. Surprisingly, he slowly came around & is now awake and knows about everything. His short term memory has been affected. Sad thing is, he can't move anything but his left arm very little. now he's 33 & gonna have to spend the rest of his life like this(who knows how long). I'm sure he had rather died. I still don't know exactly what combo of drugs he done & when, but they found coke, meth, benzos & methadone in his system. It's really an awful situation. Just like me, he knew what he was doing & prolly had done it 100 times before, but this time it got him. I'm not trying to scare anyone, I just wanted to put it out there. Who know's, maybe someone without any experience will read this post, and decide not to take quite as much of whatever as they were going to....Y'all take it for what it's worth, and just please be careful....


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Hey, I'm on methadone maintenance and have been for 3 months. I'm at 80 mgs, and have gotten there very gradually. Today I took 1.5 mgs of xanax. Than I read all these things online about people dying from the combonation. Most of those people were abusing methadone on the streets and taking lots of xanax. My body is used to the methadone, and the xanax was so minute. If anyone else has mixed these two successfully, please let me know. I feel completely fine now. I took the methadone around 7:45 am, and I took the xanax around 2:30. Should I be worried about going to bed tonight and not waking up? I also take seroquel to sleep, 300 mgs. Anyone out there know whats up?

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It is very lethal.. they both act on your CNS depressing your breathing... A good friend of mine actually died about 3 days ago mixing methadone and xanax... so it can end bad if you dont know what your doing!
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Hey, I'm on methadone maintenance and have been for 3 months. I'm at 80 mgs, and have gotten there very gradually. Today I took 1.5 mgs of xanax. Than I read all these things online about people dying from the combonation. Most of those people were abusing methadone on the streets and taking lots of xanax. My body is used to the methadone, and the xanax was so minute. If anyone else has mixed these two successfully, please let me know. I feel completely fine now. I took the methadone around 7:45 am, and I took the xanax around 2:30. Should I be worried about going to bed tonight and not waking up? I also take seroquel to sleep, 300 mgs. Anyone out there know whats up?

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hi hun i to have mixed these two drugs for a long time. not at high doses and not directly together. i knew a guy taking 80mgs of methadone and handfuls of zanax and he is still alive. LUCKILY! I HAVE ALSO LOST FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO THIS. it depends on your body nobody is the same! NOBODY!! everybodoys chemical balance metabolism and so on are all different. it all effects people differently! but good luck to you cant talk about it anymore im 96 hours and counting trying to stay clear headed think all this is making it worse and harder! anyway good luck to all!

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hi hun i to have mixed these two drugs for a long time. not at high doses and not directly together. i knew a guy taking 80mgs of methadone and handfuls of zanax and he is still alive. LUCKILY! I HAVE ALSO LOST FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO THIS. it depends on your body nobody is the same! NOBODY!! everybodoys chemical balance metabolism and so on are all different. it all effects people differently! but good luck to you cant talk about it anymore im 96 hours and counting trying to stay clear headed think all this is making it worse and harder! anyway good luck to all!





hi hun I too have mixed these drugs for a long time (over three decades) and survived too. I don't tell others they will be okay doing it though. I don't want to be responsible for killing anyone.

I sure hope you're right and someone doesn't swallow their tongue based on doing what you say. You even admit to knowing people who haven't been so fortunate. What's up with that and then saying it's okay?

We try to give advice here that will help people. There are plenty of garbage web sites that share ways to fry your brain. This isn't one of them. God bless.
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hi hun i to have mixed these two drugs for a long time. not at high doses and not directly together. i knew a guy taking 80mgs of methadone and handfuls of zanax and he is still alive. LUCKILY! I HAVE ALSO LOST FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO THIS. it depends on your body nobody is the same! NOBODY!! everybodoys chemical balance metabolism and so on are all different. it all effects people differently! but good luck to you cant talk about it anymore im 96 hours and counting trying to stay clear headed think all this is making it worse and harder! anyway good luck to all!
so im looking at this and assuming what i said was taken out of context I NEVER STATED YOU WOULD BE OK NOR ENCOURAGED YOU TO MIX THEM!!!! i was making a point that all people are different and everything affects people differently. not just with narcotics even vitamins effect people differently.when i had my boys i couldnt take the same prenatals aas everyone else because the way it affected me. SO I APOLOGIZE if this is how it was taken...absolutely no my intentions here... im not encouraging you in any way shape or form!!!!!the guy i mentioned above that took these in mass quanities is a miracle and lucky to be alive! thats what i was meaning not giving you ideas to "fry your brain" giving examples of peoples diff bodys and the way they handle it.. anyway good luck to hun and hope your doing well

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Old 08-13-2009, 12:16 PM
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NOT a good idea. Everyone has different tolerances , etc..... BUT, both Methadone and Benzodiazepines can suppress the Central Nervous Sytem and if these 2 drugs are mixed it CAN cause you to quit breathing. In the past 3 months, I have known 2 people who have died this way.

By the way, Benzo's are taken mainly for Anxiety and some are: Valium (Diazepam), Klonopine (Clonazepam), Ativan (Lorezepam), and Xanax (Alprazolam)
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The only objection I have is that I can't go to my family doctor for the methadone and have to get it from a clinic at a high price. Methadone is a very inexpensive drug and I should be able to get it from my physician for a few dollars a month instead of having to pay a clinic upwards of $400/month when I only have to show up once a month. There are a few states (Maryland and New York are 2 I know of) that allow OBOT (office based opioid treatment) where you can get your meds from a doctor and not the expensive clinic system we have today....especially for compliant patients. Thanks.
Washington State also allows Office Based Opiate Treatment with either Methadone or Suboxone. My husband goes to a pain dr. and is given 112 10mg Methadones per month. And he only goes to see him 4 times a year, the dr. post dates the prescriptions so he doesnt have to go in every month.
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There is a difference in the way methadone and suboxone/subutex are prescribed. The laws differ on the number of patients a dr is allowed to treat, the laws pertaining to buprenorphine induction are different, the two can't really even be compared except that they are both forms of opiate replacement therapy. God bless.
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As far as mixing drugs go, especially methadone and benzos, you can do it 100 times and be just fine, and then the 101st time, you are dead! Ive seen it happen many, many times. It's usually not the first time that kills you. But after getting away with it, people get careless, take more of one drug or another, methadone builds up in your system, and the combo can definitely kill you. It might not but is it worth the risk??
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The way I see the difference in sub and methadone is that methadone is d efinitely a better pain reliever but its meant for the long haul (and I mean VERY long haul usually) whereas subutex is definitely better if you want to taper and detox off of opiates in a relatively short period of time. I don't think it's a great pain relliever however.
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As far as mixing drugs go, especially methadone and benzos, you can do it 100 times and be just fine, and then the 101st time, you are dead! Ive seen it happen many, many times. It's usually not the first time that kills you. But after getting away with it, people get careless, take more of one drug or another, methadone builds up in your system, and the combo can definitely kill you. It might not but is it worth the risk??


Hi bev .... the bottom line is that you and I were slamming drugs when half the people who are arguing this point were little children at the oldest.

I've had more friends die from doing stupid things like this than I care to think about and you can likely say the same thing. So if they want to go out and kill themselves we tried to tell them. That's about enough of it for me.

Seems like we repeat this same subject daily because some guy mixed the drugs and didn't die. WOW! I'm impressed. NOT!! You and I know the deal. I'm tired of arguing with people trying to give them advice that might just save their life but they don't want to hear it. So be it. God bless.
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so im looking at this and assuming what i said was taken out of context I NEVER STATED YOU WOULD BE OK NOR ENCOURAGED YOU TO MIX THEM!!!! i was making a point that all people are different and everything affects people differently. not just with narcotics even vitamins effect people differently.when i had my boys i couldnt take the same prenatals aas everyone else because the way it affected me. SO I APOLOGIZE if this is how it was taken...absolutely no my intentions here... im not encouraging you in any way shape or form!!!!!the guy i mentioned above that took these in mass quanities is a miracle and lucky to be alive! thats what i was meaning not giving you ideas to "fry your brain" giving examples of peoples diff bodys and the way they handle it.. anyway good luck to hun and hope your doing well
Some people on this site seem to make it a point to twist words around ,take things out of context and even be confrontational with anyone that just comes here to even give their opinion on a subject.
They will try to claim that youre trying to give facts instead of an opinion and accuse you of being reckless and endangering peoples lives, the best thing to do is just ignore them and continue contributing what you want to this open discussion board.
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And then again some people give reckless advice that endangers others' lives and they should be ignored and not payed attention to.
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