[ranger18]

Iposted this on other board (venting) and thought it mite help here,
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I am hoping that someone can tell me how to do the suboxone, meaning how long do I have to wait to take 1st pill after last dose of narcotic. I am taking approx. 10 30mg. roxicette per day so 300 mgs. I know I have to wait but how long? This is not a time release pill but fast acting. Is 18 hours enough? Any help will be greatly appreciated, and will save my life in a sence
Dave replys
thanks dave I been thru it with bup and got violently ill, kicking dope(H) didn't want to go thru it again, but I guess I'll have to take that chance I have a wicked injury and end up on them again and again. just can't handle life on them after a couple years of it. sometimes its just to take a decent ********************. But again thanks
again dave replies
Again thanks Dav I waited 22hrs to do 1st dose (2)n8)got violently ill fot 4 hours i did 2 2mg zany and passed out sick and woke up so/so weak but not ill, now its 29 hrs and wondering if i should do another suboxone???? deathly afraid of illness part. sent my 9mm down the road, thats how ill i got. i'm no rookie but up there in age and couldn't handle it.the question is what is dosage 2x per day? you have been big help again thanks 60 yrs old & tired of roller coaster
first to last thanks for any imput pukin junky miami

[detoxguy]

ranger18, You should be in withdrawal 24-48 hrs before taking sub, the longer the better! If you take sub too soon after taking last narcotic it will put you into a total w/d from med your on! Since your rox dose is so high the longer you wait taking sub after your last dose the better, that is why you got ill! Didn't your doc explain to you how it works, if not look for another one now! Detoxguy

[mpvt]

Buprenorphene is a strange drug in that alot of times less works alot better than more.Once your in full withdrawls then try 4mgs.If in two hours you're no better then try 4mg more.Most people settle into taking suboxone twice a day.
One other thing, when you put the pill under your tongue make sure you leave it there and don't swallow it as the pill won't work if you swallow it.That's why it's a sublingual type pill.Most people try and spit if they can.Good luck and check back in as the other Dave is the real expert on bup.....Dave

[bradn6919]

the two previous posts are 100% correct, i am currently taking suboxone after being addicted to percocet and oxycontin for 3 years....


the thing i cannot stress enough is to not only wait 24 hours after last use, but to LET THE PILL DISSOLVE COMPLETELY UNDER YOUR TONGUE before digesting any of it...

suboxone is only effective when it is in the bloodstream, (chewing and swallowing it doesn't get nearly as much in the bloodstream) and the purple vein under your tongue is the most effective way to do this... AVOID EVEN TALKING while waiting for the pill to dissolve, it could take anywhere from 5-15 minutes....

hope this helped!!!

[blueashsky]

Hi there, I was taking about 200mg percs a day for a few years. i tried to detox myself but after about two days, I couldn't take it any more so checked myself into a detox. it was a 3-5 day detox program, and I was there for 6 days. they were giving me clonidine there, but i had done the hardest part of the detox myself. when i got out of there, i was enrolled into a suboxone program bu they couldn't take me for a few days. then the w/ds started kickin back in hard. when i went to the sub program, they started me on 8mg/day. thats the normal dose they start you on. they said that most people stay at 8mg and it works fine for them. it didnt work for me, so they upped me by 4mgs incrementally. i was at 16mgs for about two weeks and it seemed to be working well. then i started noticing i was having w/d symptoms again and was having to take my second dose of suboxone earlier and earlier in the day. i spoke to the doc about it and he increased me by 4mgs again, so now i'm taking 20mgs/day. hes having me take one pill (8mgs) in the morning, half a pill around noon, and the last full pill around dinner time. it seems to be working well so far. hopefully this will stabilize things out. the first few days of taking suboxone at all, i was nodding out randomly and was extremely tired. it was annoying because, when i would take the percs, i knew in x amount of time i would get high and if took too many would start noddin out then, but with the suboxone, it would hit me at random times throughout the day, so i would be mid conversation four hours after taking it and fall asleep talking... after about a week or two, i stopped having any of those types of feelings, and now it just takes the w/ds away. some people think that suboxone makes you feel high, but it really doesnt at all once your body gets acclimated to it after the first week or two. so anyway, it had been about a week before i took suboxone after my last perc, but thats because i went to a detox. once i took my first sub, it worked within half an hour. it was great! i think it is a great tool for those addicted to opiates. at first i thought it was a crutch, and had a hard time saying i was "clean", but the more i think about it, the more i realize its kind of like insulin for a diabetic. i am an addict. i have a disease. i need medication to manage it because it will kill me if i dont. good luck!

[acoxx]

Hi there.. i was taking this pill for the last 5-6 years. I've taking 2 mgs in the morning, another 2 mgs at noon n 2 mgs once again in the night. I feel so tired with this but it's so hard to stop using it. Actually i've ever stopped using it for 1,5 yrs before, but then i relapsed using heroin again so i started taking this pill again. Some people told me that i cannot stop if i still taking it 3 times a day.The rite way to stop is making it once a day even 8 mgs or more.. Is that rite guys??

[Normankay]

I don't think there is any one way to just stop taking Suboxone.

What worked best for me was understanding addiction before I decided to get off the Suboxone. The unfortunate part of addiction is not understanding how to deal with life without a drug.

Honestly the best way for me was to understand how to deal with life first and pray. I am one of the most hardheaded people you could meet and if someone would have told me 3 years ago you have to quit being so prideful, retrain your brain, go to NA/AA/church recovery meetings to get a support group and find a God to quit Suboxone. I probably would have told them to get F#%@ed.

I am not saying that you can't quit Suboxone without the the help I stated above, however I have found that it is a lot easier to deal with when you do what I said above.

You really want to find out how to live life without drugs and make friends that don't do drugs. If you are like me, I can quit Heroin for a while. Hang out with the old friends that just smoke weed and drink on occasion, however alcohol and weed had not really got me feeling the way I wanted to. I have relapsed maybe 5-10 times varying in length from 3 days to 1 year and a half going from meetings to thinking I could just smoke weed and drink before I wanted to try Heroin again.

When I was younger I could just drink and smoke weed occasionaly, I then tried pain killers after not doing them for a few years. I happened to try Vicodin right after Oxy became big and within two months was taking Oxy and within two months was doing Heroin and within two years was taking Methadone to get by between getting High. Opiates are a hard drug to stop abusing. Once you find yourself in the cycle of opiate abuse your odds stack against you to stop.

I have lost many friends to using and death. The death part is what scares me and in turn made me want to figure out how to stay away from opiates completely. It gets hard seeing your friends continuously going out and dying and or not being what they had become.

I had to become stronger than the adiction. Figure out how to deal with life without turning to using when life gets hard.