Fentanyl Withdrawal-Please Help Me!!!

[cynack]

You said it best. Bye!

For your information NO ONE has asked you for your opinion about anything, your medical background information or anything else if I've read properly. In fact NO ONE here even cares PERIOD about anything you have to say. I have also suggested that patients should consult with the professional of their choice for medical matters of concern contained in my disclaimer. I owe you NOTHING, I have done nothing wrong nor do I ever do anything legally wrong.

That's the last thing I intend on discussing with you. You have nothing sensible to question me about so you chooose something stupid like questioning that I may be 12 years old? Give me a break PassingBy. You sound ridiculous. If anything THAT kind of accusation shows the liklihood of you trying to initiate some kind of argument with me by insulting me. It won't happen, I don't have time for someone such as yourself.

If you don't like the entertainment that's playing on this forum change the channel. There are lots of forums, channels/categories to choose from or even try the television if you own one. No one invited you here. You can even block my replies so you don't have to see anything thatI post if it bothers you that much.

I don't prescribe medication of any kind here, I make a point of explaining that my advice comes from experience ONLY and I surely owe you NOTHING regardless of how important you many think you are. I won't be engaging in any illegal activities here on the forum (nor have I ever made an illegal allegation) ever during my entire life.

I suggest that you go somewhere where possibly someone may be interested in what you have to say. I promise you won't be accepted with open arms around here showing up with your first post threatening members and trying to get us to start fighting and fussing.

I am a devout Christian or I would say what is really spinning around in my little double-digit IQ mind. I'll match it up against your IQ anytime though Mr/Ms Wizard. In the meantime may God bless you for your efforts doing what you think is right considering that you're obviously working with less than what is a full picnic basket. God bless.

I'm reading this forum for the first time. This forum, and people like Robert, have changed my life from this day forward. I came here for support and "passingby" made such negative comments about Robert. People need support - not negative attacks. I too suffer from chronic longterm 20+ years of pain & surgeries. My Dr. put me on the fentanyl patch yesterday - I put the first 25 mcg patch on yesterday at 12:00pm. Today, 25 hours later I removed the patch. I did so after reading this forum to this point. I will comment later but couldn't resist telling passingby that their negative comments are not helping anyone. Possibly their negative comments are to assure themselves it is ok to continue taking a powerful drug like fentanyl, a drug that can take over ones life and control it with withdrawals symptoms. Thank you Robert for helping me - and I'm not even to the current date of this forum yet. and I'm thanking you. I now wonder if I will have withdrawal symptoms from my 25 hours of the patch. I will continue to read this forum and comment more after I read more inspirational comments like Roberts and everyone who is posting information about thier experiences. I thank everyone here - because your expressed experiences may have just saved me from going through pure hell. The dr. projected I would be up(ed) to 100 - 120 mcg patches / 3days for the next 2 - 2.5 years of treatments. I have chosen not to go this route.
Thanks to all who contribute in a positive way to help others.

[mmexc]

Robert i am new to this all the way around.What i mean is i just found this site and i have never tryed to post any thing at all .But here we go .Ok i am a 42 yr. old male i have had 4 back operations .What i have is a turmor that keeps growing back on my spinal cord .Were it is located they can never seem to get it all out.Every time they do surgery they do more and more damage to my spinal cord.But any how i have been on 100 mch/h for over a year. I have been reading just about every post on here . Now i know you do not claim to be a expert but you seem to have a lot of answers about the fentanyl . I myself love the patch i have lived in pain all my life with this thing . At times i even thought of just killing myself but my religon will not let me .I have always been taught that if i do that i will go to hell and what i have heard about that place it would hurt alot more.I did stop the patch cold turkey oh i guess 10 days ago . My body went into fits i got real hot sweaty well you know the drill. The one thing that i did do that no one has done that i did atleast i havent found a post about it was i covered up with as many blankets as i could get around me .My boudy had severe convulisons it felt like every muscle in my body would contract . At times it would let up then i would start to jerk all around. I found one post were that person said they floped around like a fish out of water.So i get over that after about 24 hrs. and i got to having pain again . So i started taking perocets for the pain . Now i have run out here is what i done . All along i have took my patches off and put the clear backing back on the patch some still had medicine in them . Now i cant aford to go my doctor to get my monthly perscriptions this mont . So what i did robert was cut open a bunch of my old patches and put it a meat injection tool and squirted it in a used patch . So i can atleast try to get some releaf from the pain . I got my disibility and they put me on a spend down . Now i have to spend so much money before my insurance will pay for any thing . I just cant afford that so what do you think . Oh ya some more history .I have always i know they say not to do it but i always put my patch on the same spot. I even cleaned the spot with Isopropyl alcohol before i would put a new one on . That one spot was the only place i could find on my body that they would stick. I have done that in the past with these patches so far so good . I just make sure i dont poke through the side that goes against the skin. My case seems odd because the patches are to be left on for 72 hrs. .But after about 48 the pain starts again so i always put on a new patch. My doctor will only give me 10 a month . I dont know what to do i have to be on dissibility for 2 years before i can get a tinge unit put in . I am counting the days i just hope that they work like they say they do. What i dont know for sure is all the jell in a patch all medicine. I have done as much research as i can stand on the patch . They just dont seem to work as well as a new patch but they do give me some comfort. can you give me any of your thoughts on this .I know what you will proubly say this guy is CRAZY LOL but i dont know what else to do . Poor people have poor ways . I would like to hear back from you . thanks mike

[Sparrow3]

Hello Robert, I will be getting the Subs on Tues. So in total I will have 30 all together. So if I stop taking anything as of tomorrow morning (Sun.) I should probably be at or around 26 by Tues. does that sound about right? Let me know what you think or what I should do, I will wait for your advise. Also tomorrow when I begin my journey to the magic number of 26, do you think I should just start a new thread? Again I will wait for your response. Yikes! Im nervous as hell just thinking about it, but then again I feel hopeful and just want it to begin so I can get this over with and get my life back. Ok ok beginning to ramble, I will wait for your response.
Sparrow

[Robert_325]

Hello Robert, I will be getting the Subs on Tues. So in total I will have 30 all together. So if I stop taking anything as of tomorrow morning (Sun.) I should probably be at or around 26 by Tues. does that sound about right? Let me know what you think or what I should do, I will wait for your advise. Also tomorrow when I begin my journey to the magic number of 26, do you think I should just start a new thread? Again I will wait for your response. Yikes! Im nervous as hell just thinking about it, but then again I feel hopeful and just want it to begin so I can get this over with and get my life back. Ok ok beginning to ramble, I will wait for your response.
Sparrow

Sparrow ..... You should be really close with having 30 subs. If you honestly do exactly as I ask you to you could POSSIBLY get by on that. We will know more after the induction. Are you getting subutex or suboxone I don't recall. I talk with so many people I sometimes forget a few things. That's one reason this forum is so important for me ... so I can look back and see what all I need to find that has been posted. I don't think there is any reason to start a new thread. I would just as soon continue from where we've been talking at right here.

Will you have the medication at home on Tuesday so I will be able to do the induction with you myself or are you having to do it with the dr? I just SOOO want to do the induction myself right here so I know you're starting off right beginning on the very first day. You SHOULD be okay by Tuesday but definitely don't take ANYTHING, not even an ibuprofen or tylenol or ANYTHING until we do the induction.

RELAX!!! Your life is about to change for the better. Don't freak out about it, just relax knowing you're about to be blessed with a new beginning. I won't let you down or abandon you. I know what I'm doing and we are going to get you fixed up I promise. I'll talk with you between now and then and you'll be in my prayers. God bless.

[Sparrow3]

Robert, No Dr. I am doing this with YOUR guidance only. I have read alot of the threads where you have guided ppl and your way has worked much better than any Dr. who has only taken a class or two and read a couple pamphlets on Suboxone (which is what I have). Your experience has made you much wiser than any Dr. so if you will help me I would like to become another one of your success stories. I will have the Suboxone around noon on Tues. and if you think 30 is cutting it too close I can get more, do you think I should? And dont worry I wont take anything at all until you tell me to start the Sub, and I know I have to be at least at a 26 and even then I wont take anything until you say so. (Deep Breath) Ok, well tomorrow morning I will begin my journey to that magic number. Thanks so much Robert for giving your time and attention to me . . . who you dont even know. But I desperately need you help.
Sparrow

[Robert_325]

Robert, No Dr. I am doing this with YOUR guidance only. I have read alot of the threads where you have guided ppl and your way has worked much better than any Dr. who has only taken a class or two and read a couple pamphlets on Suboxone (which is what I have). Your experience has made you much wiser than any Dr. so if you will help me I would like to become another one of your success stories. I will have the Suboxone around noon on Tues. and if you think 30 is cutting it too close I can get more, do you think I should? And dont worry I wont take anything at all until you tell me to start the Sub, and I know I have to be at least at a 26 and even then I wont take anything until you say so. (Deep Breath) Ok, well tomorrow morning I will begin my journey to that magic number. Thanks so much Robert for giving your time and attention to me . . . who you dont even know. But I desperately need you help.
Sparrow

Glad we are doing this totally ourselves. We will be successful if you stick with me I promise. I'm sure we'll be talking again before Tuesday. I think if you start with 30 subs that should be okay especially if you can get more if you need them. I don't mind doing this at all. It's a blessing for me. One question, Can you get subutex instead of suboxone. It's easier for inductions and especially easier to use if you're not an IV drug user.God Bless!

[Sparrow3]

I dont know of anyone who is on subutex or getting rid of subutex, how could i get ahold of it. Do u know anyone or any place and I could go thru u? What are the differences between the 2 as far as the induction is concerned. And what is the difference between the make up of the 2 as far as medicine is concerned. If its gonna be a big difference then I will try and seek some out, if its gonna be less painful switching from the fentanyl over to the subs, I will track some down. Its the waiting thru the w/d and trying to get to that 26 that has me worried. Once i am switched over and off this God aweful fentanyl I will be ok, and so grateful. I just have to get thru the switch, thats the worry for me. *big sigh* So let me know what you want me to do Robert, I will do what u want.
Sparrow

[Robert_325]

I dont know of anyone who is on subutex or getting rid of subutex, how could i get ahold of it. Do u know anyone or any place and I could go thru u? What are the differences between the 2 as far as the induction is concerned. And what is the difference between the make up of the 2 as far as medicine is concerned. If its gonna be a big difference then I will try and seek some out, if its gonna be less painful switching from the fentanyl over to the subs, I will track some down. Its the waiting thru the w/d and trying to get to that 26 that has me worried. Once i am switched over and off this God aweful fentanyl I will be ok, and so grateful. I just have to get thru the switch, thats the worry for me. *big sigh* So let me know what you want me to do Robert, I will do what u want.
Sparrow

Sparrow ....... The only chemical difference is suboxone has naloxone included in it, and subutex is pure buprenorphine. Naloxone is really for IV drug users and not necessary if you don't shoot drugs.

It's not a deal breaker. If you can get subutex do it. If not then don't worry about it. It's just a little easier induction off hardcore drugs on the subutex. I can do either but subutex is easier physically on you. That is the only difference. Do the best you can but we'll make it just find either way. Get yourself some sleep tonight. Talk tomorrow after church. God bless.

[Sparrow3]

Ok, can u explain how it would be easier on me. Is it because I wouldnt have to wait until I was in w/d? I am gonna try and ask around today and see if anyone can get the subutex. If I wouldnt have to wait until I got to that 26 that would be awesome, thats the part I am worried about most. Damn I wish I knew that before I spent the money on the other. Any way I am gonna see if I can track any down.
Sparrow

[Robert_325]

Sparrow ..... it's just that the subutex doesn't have naloxone in it .... hence one less drug to deal with affecting the induction. Ideally most everyone should at least be inducted on subutex even if they are switched to suboxone at a later time. I just prefer using subutex, especially if you're not an IV drug user.

Don't be so scared about that 26 and the COWS worksheet.. This is a ONE-TIME price to pay for having your life back. Be positive about this and not so apprehensive. It's a blessing in disguise I assure you. I will look out for you if you just do like I ask you to do.

You can always get rid of the suboxone anyway. God bless.

[Sparrow3]

Ok Robert this is where I am at: My last dose was at 7:00pm on Sunday evening, it is now 2:00pm on Tues. and . . . nothing. No w/d symtoms yet, I mean nothing??? Weird. Why do you think it is taking so long? I mean Sunday I got all my stuff done you know things that I probably wont be able to do for awhile (Cut the grass, grocery shopping, etc), I really thought Monday I would be feeling something, some w/d, but its Tues and still nothing. I just want to get this done. Any way I just wanted you to know where Im at. And I cant find any Subutex, sounds like I would have been better off getting those, that suxs. I will keep posting to let you know where Im at so you can guide me thru the induction and beyound. Sparrow

[Robert_325]

Ok Robert this is where I am at: My last dose was at 7:00pm on Sunday evening, it is now 2:00pm on Tues. and . . . nothing. No w/d symtoms yet, I mean nothing??? Weird. Why do you think it is taking so long? I mean Sunday I got all my stuff done you know things that I probably wont be able to do for awhile (Cut the grass, grocery shopping, etc), I really thought Monday I would be feeling something, some w/d, but its Tues and still nothing. I just want to get this done. Any way I just wanted you to know where Im at. And I cant find any Subutex, sounds like I would have been better off getting those, that suxs. I will keep posting to let you know where Im at so you can guide me thru the induction and beyound. Sparrow

Sparrow ...... Fentanyl has a really long half life. It can take several days with lots of people before they're ready for induction. Hang in there and wait it out. The w/d will come trust me. just give it some more time. God bless.

[Sparrow3]

Thanks Robert, Today not much going on yet, but yep im waiting it out. Ill keep you posted. Thanks for checking in.
Sparrow

[kenner1971]

Thanks Robert, Today not much going on yet, but yep im waiting it out. Ill keep you posted. Thanks for checking in.
Sparrow

Sparrow,
Hey girl I just found your thread! Finally! Even though we are talking away from the forum I just wanted to watch your progress here. I am still just a phone call a way. Good luck sweetie and they will come! Unfortunately!

You go girl!!!!!

[Sparrow3]

Robert, Hello. Just wanted to keep you posted on my situation. Still no Subs. I only have the original 6. Still trying to get some, no one is coming thru, but Im still calling and ppl know that I need them and they are looking for me too. But in the mean time I have tapered my useage down from 75-100mcg aday, I am now down to and holding at 25mcg every 24-36hrs. Each time I try adding another 2-3hrs before I cant stand the w/ds at all. So thats where I am currently at. Hopefully because I have and will continue to taper my dose maybe when I get the Subs my waiting to go into w/ds and reach that magic number 26, wont be so bad or take so long to reach it, maybe??? The worst is the lack of sleep and the achey arms, legs and joints, and the anxiety in the pit of my stomache. But like I said I just try and stretch it out another 2-3hrs each time before I dose again. Hope this makes sense Robert I just dont really know what else to do until I get those damn Subs. I hate this stuff in my system at all anymore, I wanna be done. I wanna get the Subs and get this other stuff out of my damn system. Sorry Im just frustrated.
Anyway, thats it in a nutshell. Hope all is well with you.
Talk to you soon,
Sparrow

[Addicted2fenytanl]

You should try and use the pill identifier on this site and it will tell you what you need to know. I hope this helps you (smile).

[RobSSMONT]

I am on my 27th day without fentynol. This is my first post on the internet, since my journey began. Reading online forums was very discouraging. And now i have found out why. If your reading this you may be someone that is trying to get of fentynol or someone that is hoping to get off fentynol. If you are not terminally ill, do not take this drug. IT WILL RUIN YOUR LIFE. People that say dont worry, you will not get addicted if you use it properly are just plain stupid. I used fentynol for 3 f'ed up discs in my back. Along with perks. I was using 100 mg per day with 7-12 perks for breakthrough pain. Do i have an addictive personallity? YES. Do people admit to having an addictive personality when they are face to face with thier doctor? NO. I didnt even realize i had an addictive personality until i started recovery. This drug will turn you into an addict. I promise you that. I never once got high off the drug. You will find yourself within weeks, yes weeks worrying about being addicted to the drug. I tried everything to get off the drug i tried weening myself off by reducing the dosage by 10mg every 2 weeks, tried cold turkey (do NOT try this) talk to the dumb ass that prescribed you the drug in the first place, i also tried changing the type of opiate which just opened up a can of worms that i am still kickin myself in the ass for. There is no magic pill that gets you off this stuff. If you are on Fentynol you have a very rough road ahead. Im sorry to say this but it is true. I am going to explain how i got off opiates this past 27 days.

#1- Checked myself into the local Detox. This was tough i know a lot of people in my town. I was embarassed. Addicts are the people that steal, live on the streets and have constant problems with the law. DEAD WRONG. I met people from all walks of life. It was there that i learned about legal addictions, illegal addictions and addcitions to almost anything you can imagine. We live in a world of addictions. You probably know somebody that is struggling with an addiction. Do not be embarassed. Most detox centers have recovering addicts employed there. If you go this way, talk with them. Be honest. These people can help you a lot. Your probably wondering how did i feel at this point. I felt like hell. I went into detox cold turkey. This is the only way you can go cold turkey. You need to be watched 24/7. I had a seizure my 3rd day in. Im telling you if i had access to a gun i wouldnt be writing this right now. It is that bad. After the seizure my doctor prescribed Suboxone ( i will get into this later). I stayed at the detox center for 7 days. And your probably saying "F THIS" a seizure? yes it can happen. You need to talk to your doctor before you get yourself off the Fentynol. Also the mental part of withdrawl is extreme. I did not want to be alive anymore. The physical withdrawls were terrible. Vomiting, nausea, living on the toilet, chills, body aches, dehydration, headaches and sweating like its 120 deg. but feeling like its -10. It is truely hell on earth.

#2 Suboxone- This is where everyone starts to argue. Methadone or Suboxone. Methadone is a powerful narcotic. You will be just switching your addiction. You will be racing down every morning for your drink. I talked with many addicts. And they loved the methadone. Now talking with recovering addicts, well thats a different story. Most have tried the methadone but truely they were not ready to get off drugs. They used the methadone when they were down and out. When they ran into money they were back using opiates. Now I dont want to say Suboxone is a miracle drug, because its not. You can get severely addicted to Suboxone. But I am on Day 3 with NO SUBOXONE..and of course - NO OPIATES! How to i feel? Like sh!t. I have body aches, i get the chills here and there. Basically it feels like i have the flu right now. But I am starting to feel the difference of having no drugs in my system. I am dreaming again at night, something i do not remember doing when i was using the opiates. I notcie things that i didnt notice before. The sun, rain birds etc... When you are using opiates you go on living day by day and start to kill yourself spiritually...i do not need to tell you about that. If your reading this far in you know what im talking about. But getting back to the Suboxone, i do not think i could have gone this far without it. There is a line in your head and it gets crossed when you are getting off the Fentynol. You just cant do it physically. The problem with Suboxone is that it is used too long. My wish was to get off drugs. All drugs. Yes you can take Suboxone for the rest of your life. Do you want that? I didnt. I used the Suboxone to get through the withdrawl period from the Fentynol. Heavy withdrawl symptoms last 14-? days from fentynol. I do not know if im withdrawing from the Fentynol or the Suboxone right now. But i can tell you that the symptoms are minimal right now in comparison to the withdrawls i had in the first few days before Suboxone. And for that I am grateful. Suboxone does not make you feel great. But it helps tremendously with the severe withdrawls. At the bottom of this post I am going to put my dosage of Suboxone for everyday i was on the drug.

#3 Support- When i started with this, I was going to do this by myself. I was privately addicted and i was going to get off the addiction privately. Well that was my big mistake. When I was in detox i met a guy that really changed the way I thought about the whole issue. First off, I got along right away with the guy. He works at a large steel plant here in town and me being a plumber, well that was the first person that i met with an addiction that has a good job, works in the trades and seemed to be in the same boat as me. I got his number before he left and i went on through my withdrawls. The 16th day in I called him. He said he was going to a meeting. He asked me to go and i went. It was a NA meeting. There is where I found the support i needed. For now I go to these meetings every night. I do not talk at all. I havent even looked at the book that they have. I know they have a 12 step program. But just going to these meetings and listening to people and being able to ask them anything at all makes the recovery part really easy. Am I going to do all the steps? I have no clue. All i know is that going every night makes all the pains and aches go away for that 1.5 hours and it gives me hope. I wanted to mention one more thing. If you go to these meetings, whatever you do is never compare your addiction to others. You will be lining your self up fpr a relapse. You will hear stories that are enough to make a grown man cry. Making it seem like your addiction isnt "that bad". My addiction was bad enough that i didnt want it running my life anymore. And if your reading this, your likely in the same boat that i am in.

So breaking everything down, there is no magic pill that makes everything go away. Just some plain effort. You can get off the Fentynol. And if you are looking into taking Fentynol. PLEASE read up on it and look and people that have used it. This stuff is killing people everyday. I am sure it is used to help some people. My grandmother took it for the last 5 months of her life. She was terminally ill.


Suboxone

You WILL need to start getting sick before taking Suboxone. If you take it while you are taking opiates it will make you sick right away. I suggest being sick for 48 hours before taking it. You will get a taste of how bad you would feel by not taking anything. Your doctor will tell you this anyways. Your first does is usually at the doctors office anyways.

Day 3-7 8 mg Per day 4 Mg morning, 4 mg 4PM- Dont take Suboxone late - you will not sleep

Day 8-12 6 mg Per day 4 Mg morning, 2 mg 4PM

Day 12-16 4 mg Per day 2 Mg morning, 2 mg 4PM

Day 16-24 2 mg Per day, In the morning

THIS WAS A PLAN THAT I CAME UP WITH. THIS WAS NOT MY DOCTORS ADVICE. I WANTED TO GET OFF ALL DRUGS. IN ORDER TO USE SUBOXONE AND NOT GET ADDICTED TO IT I WANTED TO USE IT ONLY FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. WHEN YOU MAKE THE DOSE CHANGE YOU FEEL LIKE HELL. JUST TRY TO REMEMBER THE 48 HOUR PERIOD OF HOW YOU FELT WHEN YOU WERE IN TOTAL WITHDRAWL. IT HELPS

I hope this helps somebody out there, remember your not alone

[Jaianniah]

Thank you for your story. You have given me a lot of hope. I stopped EVERYTHING I was on- Fentanyl Patch (200!!!), dilaudid (24mg/day), etc. about two months ago. Since then, every day has been horrible, horrible. At first, I weaned down from the patch by not changing it as frequently. then, I just stopped. Bad idea. I am still going through horrible withdrawal even after so long. The nights when I try to sleep are the worst. I get hot and cold, have chills and sweats, nausea, and am having migraine headaches that render me blind (this is the truth), and even pain everywhere. I have only a few Oxycontin to help me, and my restless leg condition has come back with a vengeance; this needs to be treated with klonopin, I know, but nobody will help me. Anyway, your story has inspired me because I quit alcohol 30 years ago, and I know I can do this, too. I do remember a guy at a meeting who was getting off fentanyl, and said he felt like he was made of very fragile glass. That was a great description. I want to kick as much as I can. I was a zombie, a total zombie! All I cared about was my meds and my pain and cigarettes, which I have quit, too. (I figured if I was going to be miserable, I might as well quit smoking, too! Am I nuts, or what???) I have finally contacted a doctor who will give me that new drug to help, but that won't be until next week...ugh. I figure that I have gotten through the worst of it, but I am so terrified and miserable despite my determination. Thanks again. Jai

[roothog]

Lyrica is a shedule 5 (nonnarcotic) yet it has helped me tremedously with
detox symtoms from fentynal. vicodin etc. Man, please try lyrica and soma to get through thedetox before going on methadone subox, etc . subox and methadone are still opiate derived and pack a butt load of detox pain them self.
Lyrica has been a life saver for me. lyica detox is a cake walk compared to these other opiates.
i hope this helps lots of good folks.
also invite the power of the holy spirit into your body,During prayer and meditation,
Visualize the bluewhite light moving in you covering you with warmth and healing
and know that you are loved.
roothog

[RobSSMONT]

Hi
Made my first post here in early May when I got out of detox. I am 100% totally clean off of Fentynol and all opiates. I really am feeling great. It was definetly the hardest thing I have done in my entire life. I never want to get sick like that again. People that have the opiate addiction know what sickness I am talking about. I have met a lot of great people in my recovery. One thing I have learned is that people get clean in different ways. I cannot believe how many posts this one forum has. So many people addicted to this nasty medication. If you make it through the sickness and get clean I promise you life gets better. I will live with the physical pains I have. Fentynol killed my spirit. Killed the person I was. I am alive again and it feels great!

[amayancgirl]

Just another storry from hell. I to was told that the Fentanyl Patch was the way to go.I suffer from sever cronic back pain. I have 3 ruptured disc, multiply bone spures and two herinated discs. I have had three lower back surgery's but to no avail. I am going to have a spine fussion in the up and coming couple months. I started out in 1995 on a number 50 patch within a couple of months I was on a 100. Since 2001 I have been on 300mg every 72 hours with 75mg of timed released morphine for break through pain. My life is a total mess. I was told the patches would get me away from taking pills every day. 5 rehabs a broken marriage a lost job and two atemps at ending it all I am still here. I am in a 12 step program which helps out but as you can see I am at about my ends wit. I just don't know were to turn next. Is there anybody out there that can help me???????????

I am entering a new program at UNC chapel Hill...TOMORROW...Its a new clinical study with high success rate..80% .i have been on 125mcg for about 6yrs now..Every 48hrs..I would overlap...I am told they do a gradual taper then go to other drugs to help..is a 1 to 3 week hospital stay..The patches made my pain go away but now it has created a whole new pain on top of the pain i already had!This is NOT a drug for anyone who has a life left to live!The terminally ill are a different story..Im a 35 yr old with a life that has been on hold while i have been on this downward spiral!I want my life back!!I KNOW pain very well!!Ive been to the bottom ....I hope anyone reading who can relate will find a way out!LIFE is waiting..

[mo99999]

After reading all these posts I feel like my husband & I are on our own island! My husband just finished chemo/radiation for oral cancer this summer & was prescribed Fentanyl with liquid oxy for breakthrough pain & Lidocaine as a topical so he can eat. 4 months out from treatment, he is at an unreal 400mg every 72 hours which we just asked to be lowered to 300mg. He is also on 3600 mg Gabapentin/day for tongue pain. After reading all this I feel hopeless. Hubby has no idea how hard it will be to get off the Fentanyl & if I share what I learned from this sight, he is going to freak out. He has depression & is on Cymbalta & Xanax for anxiety which has been ongoing for years. He has been a read trooper through this whole cancer thing & the thought of the difficulty of weaning off the Fentanyl is going to be overwhelming to him. Neither of us was aware of the difficulty of withdrawal. He was on Fentanyl 50mg last fall (2010) when he had his first surgery but had no issues getting off after a month or so. This time is has been hight dose for months.... We were hoping to talk with the doctor next week after the 400 to 300 reduction started last week. We were thinking about doing a 300, 250, 200, 150, 125, 100, 75, 50, 24 reduction, 4 doses each/72 hrs. Will this help? Last week he mentioned the possibility of methadone to help get off the Fentanyl. Any advice?

[Robert_325]

After reading all these posts I feel like my husband & I are on our own island! My husband just finished chemo/radiation for oral cancer this summer & was prescribed Fentanyl with liquid oxy for breakthrough pain & Lidocaine as a topical so he can eat. 4 months out from treatment, he is at an unreal 400mg every 72 hours which we just asked to be lowered to 300mg. He is also on 3600 mg Gabapentin/day for tongue pain. After reading all this I feel hopeless. Hubby has no idea how hard it will be to get off the Fentanyl & if I share what I learned from this sight, he is going to freak out. He has depression & is on Cymbalta & Xanax for anxiety which has been ongoing for years. He has been a read trooper through this whole cancer thing & the thought of the difficulty of weaning off the Fentanyl is going to be overwhelming to him. Neither of us was aware of the difficulty of withdrawal. He was on Fentanyl 50mg last fall (2010) when he had his first surgery but had no issues getting off after a month or so. This time is has been hight dose for months.... We were hoping to talk with the doctor next week after the 400 to 300 reduction started last week. We were thinking about doing a 300, 250, 200, 150, 125, 100, 75, 50, 24 reduction, 4 doses each/72 hrs. Will this help? Last week he mentioned the possibility of methadone to help get off the Fentanyl. Any advice?

I'm sorry your husband has been through so much pain and certainly you along with him. I've done this a long time and if he wants to get clean I DO NOT recommend methadone for him. If he was going to stay on pain medication forever that would be the route I would suggest, but if he wants to get off the drugs, even considering the combination of all these different drugs together, if you will work with me I can help him. I promise you that I know how to do this.

I used for 35 years and used everything known to man. I've been clean almost ten years. So I've been where he is at. It's an absolute living hell where you can't even think about a iight at the end of the tunnel. But there is one down the road. I even held a loaded and cocked 9mm to my head ready to pull the trigger. Thankfully God intervened and saved me. I am asking you to have some faith in what another old addict who has lots of experience can share with you.

Read the following link. This is how I got clean after using opiates for 35 years. I was on right at 1000mg of oxycodone a day, tons of xanax and klonopin, 20-25 soma a day, and however many hydrocodone or percocets I could get my hands on. I took over 100 pills a day easily on a daily basis for a LONG time. I almost died twice. When I got clean I followed the protocol explained in this link. Then several years ago I started sharing this process on this forum. As we've worked with so many people doing this I've updated the link three times as our experience has grown by seeing the results of so many people. I've done this a thousand times with others and lots of them have been clean just like me for years.

Let me know if you want my help. I will stick this out to the end with you guys and we will take this one drug at a time. I know how to do the opiates, benzos, gabapentin, all of it. You have my word you will see him clean if he will just be naive enough to do what I ask. It will take us some time to get him completely clean but we can do it right here together. Read the link and let me know if you guys want to pursue this together. God bless.

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