drug that cay=uses temporary immobility

[darkalley]

hey
i wish to find out the name of any drug that causes temporary immobility of the muscles of the body and on overdose causes the heart to stop beating
i would be very grateful for a prompt and accurate reply
thanks

[tamara02]

Hi,Dark Alley,now, why in the world would you want to know something like that??? Tamm

[ariadaun]

I am intrigued by this question and I really want to answer.... but I gotta know - are you plotting murder, mayhem, or writing a novel?

There are so many substances that do this - from the exotic to pretty common anesthetics.

[darkalley]

quote:Originally posted by ariadaun

I am intrigued by this question and I really want to answer.... but I gotta know - are you plotting murder, mayhem, or writing a novel?

There are so many substances that do this - from the exotic to pretty common anesthetics.

hey
i m writing a novel and i wanted to know if there was any such drug. would be grateful for a reply...thanks

[tamara02]

Hey ARI...I think you put the novel idea in his head,for some reason I dont believe that is his reason......Tamm ps and it is really easy to find such info almost anywhere...

[ariadaun]

Well, Agatha Christie used poison as a method to murder in several of her novels - one of my favorite authors by the way. But here goes...

There is curare, the deadly arrow poison of the Amazonian Indians if you want the exotic. Puffer fish is what I believe was used as a zombie-maker though I wouldnt swear on that one - making the person appear completely dead - at least til it wore off.

But if you are looking for Rx medication that do it - you have to look more along the lines of those used by anesthesiologists during surgery to keep the muscles from involuntarily twitching. Succhinylcholine - was used in a murder here in Michigan if I remember correctly - guy tried to say his wife's horse threw her and she hit her head, but they nailed him on it - seems the lab can find this one in the tissue even years after death. However, on the more sadistic side, this one does leave the person awake and alert, just unable to move - and in higher doses, unable to breathe due to paralyzing the diaphragm, hence causing death.

Oh, and Botox will paralyze muscle too, though I don't know if that would work on a larger scale. Would probably die of botulism or acute poisoning.

Some are easily detectable and others not so easy to find especially after death. Forensics has come a long way since Ms. Christie's day.

My favorite murder mysteries usually involve poisons And you can get a lot of ideas from reading the old master writers from this genre.

But anyway, if you want paralysis without necessarily causing death - Succhinylcholine would be my choice.

From Wikipedia: [The induction of paralysis with a neuromuscular blocker is an integral part of modern anaesthesia. The first drug used for this purpose was curare, introduced in the 1940's, which has now been superseded by drugs with fewer side effects and generally shorter duration of action.

Paralysis allows surgery within major body cavities, eg. abdomen and thorax without the need for very deep anesthesia, and is also used to facilitate endotracheal intubation.

Acetylcholine, the natural neurotransmitter substance at the neuromuscular junction, causes muscles to contract when it is released from nerve endings. Muscle relaxants work by preventing acetylcholine from attaching to its receptor.

Paralysis of the muscles of respiration, ie. the diaphragm and intercostal muscles of the chest requires that some form of artificial respiration be implemented. As the muscles of the larynx are also paralysed, the airway usually needs to be protected by means of an endotracheal tube.

Monitoring of paralysis is most easily provided by means of a peripheral nerve stimulator. This device intermittently sends short electrical pulses through the skin over a peripheral nerve while the contraction of a muscle supplied by that nerve is observed.

The effects of muscle relaxants are commonly reversed at the termination of surgery by anticholinesterase drugs.

Examples of skeletal muscle relaxants in use today are pancuronium, rocuronium, vecuronium, atracurium, mivacurium, and succinylcholine.]

Here is the link to the entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_anaesthesia
And there are links for the skeletal muscle relaxants for more info.

Oh yeah, and my disclaimer - This information is meant to be used for strictly informational purposes. If you use this information to harm another person - it's on you. I am not responsible for your actions. This information was provided in good faith as purely academic information for literary purposes. In other words, you do something stupid - don't even think of trying to pin it on me! ) ~Aria

[tamara02]

Hi Aria... didn't they make a movie abt. the girl that supposetly was thrown of her horse and hit her head,her husband killed her,and her parents wouldn't let up until the case was solved???

[tom316]

go and rent the serpent and the rainbow!

[ariadaun]

quote:Originally posted by tamara02

Hi Aria... didn't they make a movie abt. the girl that supposetly was thrown of her horse and hit her head,her husband killed her,and her parents wouldn't let up until the case was solved???

I am not sure, I know it has been covered on some of the prime time news magazine shows like dateline or one of those ones and on court tv. For the life of me I cant remember her name, but yeah, her parents refused to believe that it was an accident. They kept at it and it ended up that a lab in Europe actually was the ones to develop the test that found this drug in her system and could prove it for the courts. It is driving me nuts now that I can't remember her name - going to have to search for it tonight after I get in from work.

[ariadaun]

quote:Originally posted by tom316

go and rent the serpent and the rainbow!

tom, that is an excellent book/movie! there was another called the zombie makers. it was more of a documentary regarding the practice - maybe on discovery channel. actually had interviews with a couple of men who were victims of this. pretty cool.

[tamara02]

hi Aria...yea the movie was on lifetime ( the womens movie channel) can't remember the name..later Tammm

[ariadaun]

The movie was Victim of Love: The Shannon Mohr Story (1993).

http://hillsdale.net/stories/041106/...60411005.shtml
David Davis, was accused of murdering his wife Shannon Mohr Davis who die on July 23, 1980. Her husband, David, told police she had fallen from a horse and hit her head against a rock. Shannon's parents, Robert and Lucille Mohr and a neighbor, Robert Britton, pushed to have case reopened after it was closed by local prosecutors. The motive was to cash in on a $250,000 life insurance policy that David had taken out on his wife. They claimed that he injected her with succinylcholine chloride and then smashed her head against a rock. It took 8 1/2 years for the FBI to capture Davis who fled the area shortly after his wife's death. The capture was tahnks to a rerun of Unsolved Mysteries that featured the Davis case. Davis was found on the island of Samoa. He was convicted of 1st degree murder in December 1989 and sentenced to life without parole in Michigan. The TV Movie: Victim of Love, the Shannon Mohr Story was made in 1993 (http://www.lifetimetv.com/movies/info/move1997.html). The story has appeared on Unsolved Mysteries, American Justice, Crime and Punishment, Notorious and many other documentary programs.

And since I was already searching....here's more. It seems to be quite the popular murder weapon.

Nevada State Controller - Kathy Augustine - her husband Chaz Higgs is accused of her murder. Higgs was an RN who was involved in the care of Kathy's first husband Charles Augustine when he was hospitalized following a stroke in 2003 - which occured shortly after Kathy decided she wanted a divorce. Kathy and Chaz married only three weeks after Charles Augustine died of massive organ failure. In July 2006, Kathy had a massive heart attack and died without regaining consciousness at age 50. Kathy's body was found to contain succinylcholine by the FBI lab in Virginia. Since this revelation, the body of Charles Augustine has been exhumed and test results are pending. The trial of Chaz Higgs is set to begin in July 2007.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16657935/page/4/

Chelsea McClellan - 15 months old - was given a lethal injection of succinlycholine by Genene Jones in a Kerrville, Texas pediatric clinic in 1982. In Kerville, Jones injected five children with succinylcholine chloride before killing Chelsea McClellan with the drug. At trial, Jones was convicted of injecting a 4 week old with a blood thinner. Jones is also suspected in the deaths of more than 20 babies at the former Medical Center Hosptal in San Antonio, Texas.

http://www.oxygen.com/snapped/bios.aspx
Kimberly Hricko - A surgical technician, murdered her husband Steven. On Valentine's weekend of 1998 Steve and Kim went on a romantic getaway at a golf resort in Maryland. As part of the Valentine's package, the resort staged a murder mystery play. After the play, the couple's room caught fire and Stephen's charred body was discovered on the hotel room floor. Kim claimed her husband had gotten drunk and died from smoke inhalation, the resulting autopsy showed no signs of either alcohol or carbon monoxide anywhere in his body. At Kim's trial, the prosecution argued that she had knocked Stephen out with Succinylcholine in order to collect on his $400,000 life insurance policy. Found guilty on both charges, she's currently serving life plus 30 years for arson and murder.

In 2001, Efren Saldivar of California was arrested for the murder of six elderly female patients. The authorities concentrated on searching for Pavulon rather than succinylcholine in his victims due to the fast rate at which succinlycholine breaks down into elements natural to the human body. Saldivar claimed to have killed many more. He said, after 60 he lost count, but he figgured it was more than 100. In March 2002, he pled guilty to the six murder charges to avoid the death penelty.

Kay Sybers was killed by husband Dr William Sybers in Florida with an injection of succinylcholine. He was convicted in March 2001 of 1st degree murder. In 2003, attorney Alan Dershowitz successfully appealed the conviction and a new trial was ordered. Sybers took a plea bargain in March of 2003, pleading guilty to manslaughter and a sentence of 10 years. He spent only three in prison before being released.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...899480,00.html
And another one...from way back in 1965-67 - Dr Carl Coppolino - aquitted in New Jersy of murdering his mistress' husband William Farber in 1963, was convicted of murdering his wife Dr. Carmela Coppolino (age 32) by succinylcholine injection in Florida.

[darkalley]

hey ari,
thanks a ton for all the info...n dont worry its not with the intention of harming anyone...m truly plannin to write a novel n was wonderin if i could simplify my research process by letting someone else do it for meso thanks a lot for ur time n effort...(n i wont pin anythin on u)

quote:Originally posted by ariadaun

Well, Agatha Christie used poison as a method to murder in several of her novels - one of my favorite authors by the way. But here goes...

There is curare, the deadly arrow poison of the Amazonian Indians if you want the exotic. Puffer fish is what I believe was used as a zombie-maker though I wouldnt swear on that one - making the person appear completely dead - at least til it wore off.

But if you are looking for Rx medication that do it - you have to look more along the lines of those used by anesthesiologists during surgery to keep the muscles from involuntarily twitching. Succhinylcholine - was used in a murder here in Michigan if I remember correctly - guy tried to say his wife's horse threw her and she hit her head, but they nailed him on it - seems the lab can find this one in the tissue even years after death. However, on the more sadistic side, this one does leave the person awake and alert, just unable to move - and in higher doses, unable to breathe due to paralyzing the diaphragm, hence causing death.

Oh, and Botox will paralyze muscle too, though I don't know if that would work on a larger scale. Would probably die of botulism or acute poisoning.

Some are easily detectable and others not so easy to find especially after death. Forensics has come a long way since Ms. Christie's day.

My favorite murder mysteries usually involve poisons And you can get a lot of ideas from reading the old master writers from this genre.

But anyway, if you want paralysis without necessarily causing death - Succhinylcholine would be my choice.

From Wikipedia: [The induction of paralysis with a neuromuscular blocker is an integral part of modern anaesthesia. The first drug used for this purpose was curare, introduced in the 1940's, which has now been superseded by drugs with fewer side effects and generally shorter duration of action.

Paralysis allows surgery within major body cavities, eg. abdomen and thorax without the need for very deep anesthesia, and is also used to facilitate endotracheal intubation.

Acetylcholine, the natural neurotransmitter substance at the neuromuscular junction, causes muscles to contract when it is released from nerve endings. Muscle relaxants work by preventing acetylcholine from attaching to its receptor.

Paralysis of the muscles of respiration, ie. the diaphragm and intercostal muscles of the chest requires that some form of artificial respiration be implemented. As the muscles of the larynx are also paralysed, the airway usually needs to be protected by means of an endotracheal tube.

Monitoring of paralysis is most easily provided by means of a peripheral nerve stimulator. This device intermittently sends short electrical pulses through the skin over a peripheral nerve while the contraction of a muscle supplied by that nerve is observed.

The effects of muscle relaxants are commonly reversed at the termination of surgery by anticholinesterase drugs.

Examples of skeletal muscle relaxants in use today are pancuronium, rocuronium, vecuronium, atracurium, mivacurium, and succinylcholine.]

Here is the link to the entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_anaesthesia
And there are links for the skeletal muscle relaxants for more info.

Oh yeah, and my disclaimer - This information is meant to be used for strictly informational purposes. If you use this information to harm another person - it's on you. I am not responsible for your actions. This information was provided in good faith as purely academic information for literary purposes. In other words, you do something stupid - don't even think of trying to pin it on me! ) ~Aria

[ariadaun]

quote:Originally posted by darkalley

hey ari,
thanks a ton for all the info...n dont worry its not with the intention of harming anyone...m truly plannin to write a novel n was wonderin if i could simplify my research process by letting someone else do it for meso thanks a lot for ur time n effort...(n i wont pin anythin on u)

No problem You hit a topic that I enjoy researching. ~Aria