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    Hi everyone. Do any of you know if there is a medication that can help reduce sedation from opiates? Taking the prescribed dose makes me so sleepy most of the time. I have a desk job serving customers and really need to get this under wraps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klopper22 View Post
    Hi everyone. Do any of you know if there is a medication that can help reduce sedation from opiates? Taking the prescribed dose makes me so sleepy most of the time. I have a desk job serving customers and really need to get this under wraps.

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    Come down on your dose your too high. You don't need a drug, you need less of the one your on.

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    Hey Klopper,

    I'm in the same boat as you. When I take the prescribed dose of my opiate medications they make me sleepy as well. I am currently taking oxycontin 5mg 3 x day plus percocet 5/325mg for breakthrough pain. At night I take oxycontin 10mg to help me sleep, I have horrible back pain at night due to arthritis and scoliosis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by methadonfriendly826 View Post
    He asked if there was something to offset the sleepy feeling associated with his medication gary. I love how people think they have the answer to everything. You don't even know what kind of meds this person is on and your telling him he's taking to much.
    Seriously, there IS a medicine made for this...I just don't remember what it's called. I DO need the dose of roxicodone I am on - it takes away my back and head pain and helps me function at a full time job and help at home with stuff too. Sorry if you think you know my needs more than me or my doctor, but you are wrong and very ignorant in your thought process in this regard. GET A LIFE. And thanks, methadonfriendly.
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    I too also need my pain meds to function normally. Perfect example is that my back has been really bad this past month to the point it is affecting my sleep. I went to see my rheumatologist last week. He is stumped why with the pain meds I am taking my back is still killing me. He said that he is gonna consult with another rheumatologist to see what the hell is going on with my back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalejrfan71 View Post
    I too also need my pain meds to function normally. Perfect example is that my back has been really bad this past month to the point it is affecting my sleep. I went to see my rheumatologist last week. He is stumped why with the pain meds I am taking my back is still killing me. He said that he is gonna consult with another rheumatologist to see what the hell is going on with my back.
    Dale,

    As we and others have unfortunately experienced, the need certainly exists for an outstanding level of individualized pain relief which sometimes causes problems with too much sedation for chronic pain sufferers like us that can't sit around or take naps all day. It's extremely ill-informed and ignorant people like gary that help spread and prolong the stigma that a lot of honest pain sufferers endure.

    People need to get educated and think before they speak.


    Does anyone know the name of a medicine legally used for this problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalejrfan71 View Post
    Hey Klopper,

    I'm in the same boat as you. When I take the prescribed dose of my opiate medications they make me sleepy as well. I am currently taking oxycontin 5mg 3 x day plus percocet 5/325mg for breakthrough pain. At night I take oxycontin 10mg to help me sleep, I have horrible back pain at night due to arthritis and scoliosis.
    So interesting... im taking 10 mg oxicontine when i can't sleep

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    Quote Originally Posted by klopper22 View Post
    Hi everyone. Do any of you know if there is a medication that can help reduce sedation from opiates? Taking the prescribed dose makes me so sleepy most of the time. I have a desk job serving customers and really need to get this under wraps.

    Thanks,
    Klopper

    I was in the same situation but am on a very high dose of Oxycontin, and what i take to combat the sleepiness is Adderall, and have to tell you it has worked tremendously. I am in no way making a suggestion , but rather what has worked for me.

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    well i must admit, when i seen your question, the first thought was,

    you are on too much then,

    sorry but thats how i seen it. im and addict, and i was thinkin why take something else,? a speedy kind of thing or whatever to offset opiate sedation. if you are sleepy on it, it sounds like too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dezel View Post
    I was in the same situation but am on a very high dose of Oxycontin, and what i take to combat the sleepiness is Adderall, and have to tell you it has worked tremendously. I am in no way making a suggestion , but rather what has worked for me.
    Adderall is an amphetamine. Oxycontin is a powerful narcotic. Taking both is what is referred to (in some circles) as "speed-balling" - and is not only dangerous, it is often deadly. In addition, both are highly addictive. You are playing Russian Roulette, taking both. THINK.


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    When I was much younger and using >>>>>> IV, we used to mix the H with coke or speed and inject. It WAS called a speedball as Ruth says and very very dangerous. You could OD two seperate ways. There seems to be no difference in what I did (way back) and mixing opiate pain med with Adderal...A dangerous mix.

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    I've been taking adderall and percocets for years. I wouldn't know what to do without the two of them. I take perc. 7.5 four times a day and 40mg of adderall a day. When I'm out of my meds I'm a crazy person. I love them and hate them. I've never been good at self control, I always run out early. My own stupid fault. Anyway, I saw the post about it being sort of like speed balling and thought wow I been doing that for years. works for me. be careful though it is very addictive.
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    actually i used to inject methadone, then inject speed.
    used to inject speed, then methadone. what a dummy.

    now it seems completely stupid, coz one would counteract the other.

    doesnt mean it was a good thing to do. lookin back, what a dipstick. and what a waste.
    i thought i was soo clever too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bren1985 View Post
    I've been taking adderall and percocets for years. I wouldn't know what to do without the two of them. I take perc. 7.5 four times a day and 40mg of adderall a day. When I'm out of my meds I'm a crazy person. I love them and hate them. I've never been good at self control, I always run out early. My own stupid fault. Anyway, I saw the post about it being sort of like speed balling and thought wow I been doing that for years. works for me. be careful though it is very addictive.
    It isn't "like" speedballing - it "is" speedballing. You need to see it for what it is, and any word of "caution" is long past due. If you are a "crazy person" when you run out - and "always run out early" - you are, indeed addicted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by klopper22 View Post
    Seriously, there IS a medicine made for this...I just don't remember what it's called. I DO need the dose of roxicodone I am on - it takes away my back and head pain and helps me function at a full time job and help at home with stuff too. Sorry if you think you know my needs more than me or my doctor, but you are wrong and very ignorant in your thought process in this regard. GET A LIFE. And thanks, methadonfriendly.
    Hi there, i thought i would let you know that i used to take Provigil, which helped so much with the sedation of my pain meds. As you know, its not because its the amount were on, its just that some people react differently to medicines, and i was having trouble with being sleepy during the day. Provigil used to be used for ADD and it does help keep focused on things. it definitely doesnt feel like a speed type of drug, it just really helps to keep you alert without the nervousness that speed used to give me. Anyway, i hope this helps and anyone else that experiences drowsiness from their pain meds. Also, my insurance considers Provigil a Tier 3 medication, so now i cant take it because my copay for that would be $100.00. Cant afford it, so now i just take Stackers.. oh boy!! lol..

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    Dale jr.,

    I added you as a contact I have back problems also. I have scoliosis, degenertive bone loss and compressed discs, I wanted to speak with you further to see how they treat you. I have to wait till june 17 to see them thanks

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    I am prescribed Adderall to help with the sedation of Opana. It is a small amount and I do not take it every day, but usually use it when I have a lot to do.

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    You are very fortunate to be alive!

    My 34 year-old son was prescribed methadone, restoril and soma. He took his meds as prescribed and died from them.
    Methadone has an extremely long half-life and can cause heart arrythmias. Some people die from ingesting one pill.
    I realize that it has helped many people, but it is a medication to be used with care, especially in combination with other central nervous system depressants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovecats View Post

    You are very fortunate to be alive!


    My 34 year-old son was prescribed methadone, restoril and soma. He took his meds as prescribed and died from them.
    Methadone has an extremely long half-life and can cause heart arrythmias. Some people die from ingesting one pill.
    I realize that it has helped many people, but it is a medication to be used with care, especially in combination with other central nervous system depressants.
    Dear Lovecats,

    Please accept my deepest sympathies for your loss. I can not begin to imagine the heartache of losing a child to drugs.

    Your post is powerful, hon - and I am truly grateful that you took the time to post this painful warning here. So many struggling addicts on this forum NEED to hear your message - and I pray you continue to share it. Thank you - thank you - thank you.

    God bless,
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    I also played with fire. I got up one morning and took one of my husbands prescribed Methadone (which I had been taking because I ran out of my Oxycodone, I take 270mg a day), I made a cup of coffe and returned to my room and took a 5mg valium because I felt a little shaky from my opiate withdrawal. Needless to say, my husband found me half way off the bed foaming at the mouth with no response. I ended up in ICU for 5 days with Dr., working to keep me alive. When the paramedics came, my BP was 40/50. Who would know that the combination of these 2 drugs would do this to someone. An experienced prescription drug user? Obviously not experienced enough!! Please DO NOT FLIRT WITH THESE DRUGS. You will die!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobbievic View Post
    Hi there, i thought i would let you know that i used to take Provigil, which helped so much with the sedation of my pain meds. As you know, its not because its the amount were on, its just that some people react differently to medicines, and i was having trouble with being sleepy during the day. Provigil used to be used for ADD and it does help keep focused on things. it definitely doesnt feel like a speed type of drug, it just really helps to keep you alert without the nervousness that speed used to give me. Anyway, i hope this helps and anyone else that experiences drowsiness from their pain meds. Also, my insurance considers Provigil a Tier 3 medication, so now i cant take it because my copay for that would be $100.00. Cant afford it, so now i just take Stackers.. oh boy!! lol..

    Vicki
    Hi, I also take provigil. To suggest that just because you get sleepy with your opiates means you are taking to much is not right. It is something that should be discussed with your doc as it might be a good idea to try a different opiod. They all act differently. Fentanl puts me to sleep Opana wakes me up oxycodone does nothing. There are no hard and fast rules. I have a Doc that was willing to let me switch my pain meds after 3 months on the same drug if I wasnt getting relief or did not like the way it worked. I beleiev I have tried every single one known to man! I have been on Opana ER and have stayed at the same dossage for two years. That is the longest I have been able to maintain at the same level. Please check with your doc as it would be a shame to sleep thru the rest of your life!!
    One last thing which i am sure everyone knows but chronic pain patients more often than not suffeer from depression. Depression will make you sleepy. Its worth looking at if you havent yet. Good luck
    Good luck in your quest and I hope you find the relief we are all entitled to

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    I've had trouble waking up and getting going in the a.m. in the entire 13 years I've been on painkillers. For years I was subscribed dextroamphetamine, but about a year ago I switched to Vyvanse (an ADD medication). It really helped, and made my mind a lot clearer and helped me to connect thoughts in my head and finish tasks.

    I've seen many doctors over the years - psychiatrists, neurologists, pain specialists - gone to the pain treatment center at Johns Hopkins - many doctors signed off on this combination of meds being OK. About six months ago I got off Trazodone, which I had been using for some 20 years for a sleep disorder and Viola! no more daytime sleepiness. All my docs always thought I was on too small of a dose of Trazodone to make a difference, but evidently it did. No more Vyvanse, even though I'm actually on more opiates now than ever before.

    I really think it's an individual thing - medications effect different people different ways. It's very important to be careful and give a lot of thought to adding new meds, and run it past all doctors that are involved in your case. When dealing with chronic pain I've found it pays to keep on trying different things - there just has to be a way to have a better quality of life, and I'm going to keep on trying to find it -
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