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Old 05-08-2008, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert_325 View Post
You will be better able to accurately determine your true pain level once you detox. Then if you require pain medication you will only have to take what you need for pain rather than what you need to feed the addiction. Addiction is very painful. It lies to us making us think we hurt more than we really do.

I took pain meds for MANY injuries, RA, Raynaud's Phenomenon, deg disc disease and other problems for decades. Was taking 25-30 30mg Roxies a day and was in a wheelchair at one point. I played racquetball last week. So this can be beat. I used Subutex (same as Suboxone basically) for about a month and stopped it successfully and was totally detoxed without W/Ds from pain meds too. I will explain how I did the Subutex. The Suboxone will work the same way.

I was on 8mg a day taking 4mg twice a day. I did that for about three weeks, maybe just a little longer to get past my opiate W/Ds. I knew they would be serious as I have detoxed before without Subutex. Once I knew the W/Ds were over I started cutting the dose back by 1-2mg every couple days until I got it down to 4mg. At this point I would take 2mg in AM and then skip the evening dose. Then I would take the whole 4mg the next day. Then I would skip a day totally, then do 4mg again the next. Then I would skip a day and then take only 2mg the next day. Once I hit 2mg I skipped one day, then 2mg, then skipped two days, then 2mg, then three days and then 1mg. After I took 1mg for a day, I stopped completely. I felt a little queezy one day, but that was it. Had no W/Ds of any kind after that. I am convinced this will work for anyone as many opiates as I was taking and had no W/Ds whatsoever.

Once you get through the W/Ds, you should evaluate your pain level at that time. I did and I decided that I just didn't want anymore pain meds. I would rather deal with a little pain. It's amazing how much less pain I am in after detox than before while addicted. Hopefully you will find you are in the same boat. But if not, at least you will know it is real pain and not the addiction playing tricks on you. Hope this helps. Good luck and let us know how you are doing.
So basically, what you are telling me is that even though I "feel" like I am not having withdrawals from the Fentanyl, I actually still am. Ok. Understood.
One note, prior to switching to Suboxone, I had weened myself off the Hydro completely and was only on the patch when the Sub therapy began.

I decreased my Sub dosage again today in a.m. I took only 4mg this morning rather than the 8mg. Feeling ok. Will see how that goes. Sounds like I may be able to get by with only taking 2mg this evening. Also sounds like I should hang out at this level till actual opiate WDs are done for a week or so, then start cutting back.

Robert, I think I understand your schedule and will print your reply out.

I do have pain. But, at this point, I will live with it. I had such a full active life. I WAS a SCUBA INSTRUCTOR, I WAS an avid motorcycle rider...I WAS, I WAS, I WAS.....I am tired of saying that. I want it back. I will get through the physical pain, but can no longer tolerate the opiate pain....thank you. My husband has been EXTREMELY supportive thank the heavens. Both of us were just so naive...so, so naive. I think I will never again let the statement, "...we'll deal with that issue later," from a doctor pass again.

T.
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