And I've already used up all of my physical therapy for this year so suggestions please. From I live in PAIN every day. HELP!!!
Can't take narcotics, any ideas for pain relief?
Added 3 Apr 2012:
I have C-3, C-4, C-5, C-6 herniated disc in my neck, I had rotater surgery on my ight shoulder and it went bad so..... I also have L-4, L-5, S-1 herniated in my lower back, my back also hurts from a bad right hip. My hips both need hip replacement in a few years but, for now they are saying arthoscopic surgery on my right hip. I also have neropathy in both of my feet. I can't take opiate's because I was addicted to them for 2 decades. So if this helps,please any suggestions for pain relief are greatly APPRICIATED.
also as far as my physical therapy they reccomended that I get a therapeutic massage once a month.
Added 3 Apr 2012:
I can not take narcotics because I was addicted to them for 20 years. I now take a medicine called Suboxone to help so I dont go through withdrawl I have been sober for 7 months. My pain is so bad I do not know what to do.I do my exercizes from physical therepy but, I hurt so bad sometimes I just cry & cry and I need help.....
If there are any more questions that can help getting advise please ask I do need help, so please & thank you!
Added 3 Apr 2012:
I have tried physical therapy, accupunture, chiropracter's, ultra sound, steriod injections, trigger point injections, biofeedback, and more that I can't think of at this moment.
Added 4 Apr 2012:
I also have fibromyalgia
Added 4 Apr 2012:
Here are some of the medicines that I am now taking: Suboxone 4mg and 6mg, Cymbalta 60mg, Neurotin 300mg, Glybride/Metformin 1.25/250mg, Tekturna 150mg, Atenlol 50mg, A rx for vitamin B complex, coumadin 5mg, crestor 10mg.
7 Apr 2012
hi BADHGG,if your in so much pain why dont you talk to your doctor about uping your suboxone? if he or she is one of these docs who think 4mg of sub should be enough then they are nuts. i have 2 bad knees and walk with a cane or walker depending how im feeling that day. you cant live in constent pain it does just as much damage to the brain as drugs do.once you talk to your doctor if he's not willing to work out something or incress your sub,then maybe its time to start looking for a new doctor.my doctor is a regular MD or DO and he keeps me at 2 1/2 subs a day. i take them 1 in am 1 at 4:pm and half at bedtime. and 800 mg motrin 3x a day and can up the motrin to 1600 3 x a day if needed.besides that i take xanax tid in between doses of sub not at the same time.dont beat yourself over your past drug addiction.just keep in mind its up to you and only you to control yourself with getting high on them and making your life livible.my name is pete if you ever want to or need to talk im here almost everyday.add subzero58 to your friend list.
3 Apr 2012
You didn't say what kind of pain, where it is or any other pertinent information, but I'll take a stab at your question. If you aren't allergic to NSAIDS, you might try advil, aleve or just plain ole tylenol. A hot soak in the tub does wonders.
The Smiling Happy Hippie
3 Apr 2012
Hi. If allergic to NSAIDs then DO NOT take ibuprofen, Advil, or Aleve, aspirin. These are on my list of no NSAID or related meds from my doc.
Only Tylenol. However be careful,of dosing because it can cause liver damage quite quickly. This is really for the docs to figure out.
As for no narcotics, your doc really should be on top of this. Are you talking about how they make you feel weird or allergy or ?
However, whatever you were doing in PT you can do at home or with help at home. They expect you to do this on your own. They teach techniques that you are to duplicate, and usually hand out sheets with the exercises to duplicate. If you were receiving ultrasound therapy or the like, they should have given you alternatives. At least that was my experience. And I was not very good with follow through. Kinda did it my way. So don't feel shy we are a creative group.
Give us more info please and we can help you more. So many types of pains, causes of pain, treatments for pain, emotional toll of pain. It always starts at the doctor for diagnosis and treatments. Which you have done. Tell us your journey. Tell us what you need to understand. Lots of people will help. Ok? Hope to hear soon.
7 Apr 2012
ok im new to this so ill try to help.first off,im so sorry your im pain.i get it!!! i suffer with it each day too! i just started on topamax two weeks ago and its a for migrains but they use it for cronic pain too.so far it helping.it does make me a bit loopy still but that is supposed to go away in time. have you ever used a tens unit? its a little divice that has sticky patches you put on your body and it sends little electric pulses .it feels like a nice gentle message.i have used one for years on my back and hips and it helps ease the pain.
3 Apr 2012
Oh my! First of all, why can't you take narcotics for pain? You really need them! Methadone is an alternative, & helps a lot of people with chrontic pain. Hasn't a neurosurgeon seen you for this? I have the exact back & neck problems, so I sympathize, but I do take oxycodone that helps me alot at 15 mg. Let us know why not on the opiates, & we'lll be able to suggest something else maybe... Mary
6 Apr 2012
After all your info, it seems to me that if surgery is not an option, like with me, then you may not have a choice than taking opiate pain relievers. If you go to a Pain Management Clinic, they will closely monitor your intake & will not let you have more than you need to help control your pain. I have many conditions that I will always be on pain meds for, but take 15mg of oxycodone just as written & no more. Some days I get by even with less if I don't try to overdo things. there are days I will have to take 6 a day, but usually just 4 keeps the pain bearable. If you feel this may be your only option, then by all means tlk to a pain specialist. If you can control your taking of opiates by not buying on the street, I think it may be your only option other than extensive surgery, & like I said they won't do it on me. Too many other complications.
Have you seen a neruosurgeon yet? You will have to be honest & forthright about using narcotics for 20 years of course, but it sitll sounds to me if it were controlled by a doctor, you shouldn't have to live in such pain lke you are now. I couldn't even type this if it weren't for pain relief... Mary
3 Apr 2012
Thanks for clarifying your situation. No exercise? Ok. It can help by keeping some movement going because blood flow increase and that helps heal the inflammation where the damage is located. My sis has osteoarthritis and she has to exercise to keep her body working, weight in check, and she is taking other drugs. That are not opiates. People here can tell you that course to take.
No opiates. Got it. Certainly your doc didn't say go home and roll into a ball and hurt. What have you tried? Are you seeing a neurologist or a rheumy? they have drugs to choose from. Does your current doc know your full history? You explained the opiate addiction and told them to keep you clear of them?
more info please. We are listening and there are very experienced people here to help. Keep the info coming. You wont be judged and we do need the facts. If you fill out your profile that can help as well since you need to do that info once and people can look at it to understand your situation, what you take and so forth. Just tap on the person and you can check theirs. Waiting to help...
3 Apr 2012
I don't understand you said you are allergic to narcotics then you siad you were addicted for 2 decacdes so they won't prescribe you them. so its seems your issue is you are not allowed to have them because of an addiction problem. if i am wrong correct me and i'm sorry but if i am right here is a suggestion. a pain blocker. my friend has a caged spine, various back surgies before that but she ovedosed which casued her to get a severe infection throughout her body that settled in her spine causeing it to be a metal cage now. she fuctions quite well after months of learning to walk again. she was only in her early mid 20s when this happened. she now is doing great. needless to say she has been clean since but her dr does give her methadose and percoset 10mg for breaktrough pain. he just closel;y monititors her. she has 11 yrs clean. i don't know how long you have but she has noi intentions of ruing her sobritey she only takes her meds if needed.
she exercises alot does yoga daily even if she doesn't have time for a full workout she does what is important for her back. so i suggest you work something out with your drs that you can take a pain blocker and they test you constantly. or id you are yourself afraid to take any type oif medication because of a relaspe then i suggest just good old exercise and as everyone else suggested tylenol or advil. i have sympathy for anyoneis severe pain, i go through it daily. listen ot the people on here i have come ot find out htere are some good people on here and you will get good advise but you have to help yourself too don't count on htese DRs they don't care like they should, if you have one who does then he / she should be willing ot find a way to help you through this so you are not suffering so much.
best of luck to you
6 Apr 2012
Hey again BADHGG, Ok, so now I know some more. First, from what I can tell, most of your pain is from the spine, sooo, with that said, you are taking a VERY low dose of gabapentin. If you can tolerate gabapentin, it can work GREAT for spinal pain. I used to call it my miracle drug, as it almost took me out of pain completely. BUT, it also put 80 pounds of fluid weight on me, so now I only take 300mg at bedtime, so that I can get out of bed in less that five to six hours everyday. You can take up to 1200mg/3X/day. So you might want to try upping the dosage with your doctor. Also, there are other medications in the gabapentin family (it was originally a seizure med, please someone correct me if I am wrong), so there is tegretol, dilantin, etc., that can work on neural pain. That might be an option. What about Celebrex? It is not an NSAID, but works like one. Also,you can raise the Cymbalta to 120mg/day if it works for you.
There are medications in creams that have narcotics and NSAID's in them. I know that one of the more popular creams is in low supply at this time (sorry, I can't think of the name), but they make another cream that everyone swears is better than the one in short supply.
I hope that I have giving you some answers that might work for you. One last thing, if you live in one of the states where it is legal to use marajuana, I would absolutely try that. You don't' have to smoke it anymore, there are vaporizers I believe, that keep any smoke out of your lungs.
Good luck, and please, ask away if you have anymore questions.
To my DC buddies, please fill in my blanks. I am having pain issues now, and my word finding skills are shot. Thanks!
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