2 Jul 2009
Both suboxone and subutex will put you into precipitated w/d if you begin the induction before going into severe w/d. You need to score at least a 26 on the COWS (clinical opioid w/d scale) worksheet. You will find INDUCTION suggestions and a link to the COWS worksheet on the following link in the INDUCTION section. Hope that helps.
4 Apr 2013
I did a bunch of research prior to taking subutex for dependency on morphine and oxycodone. I read differing ideas, and mostly read that unlike suboxone you can take subutex before W/Ds set in. THIS IS WRONG!! I took 8 mg of subutex after about 16 hours since last MS dose. Prior to taking the subutex, I was in mild discomfort from detoxes, but I was not in severe detoxes which I know well from previous detoxes. I took the subutex and within one hour I was in the most sever painful detoxes I have ever experienced. Moral of the story: wait until you are really Really sick to take subutex. I wish I had read this before I just went through that. Ugh.
10 Jul 2010
actually... taking the subutex before severe withdrawal WILL NOT make you sick like suboxone. it works alot better. i was doing OC 80s everyday, atleast 7 a day..for about a year... and 1 morning..i did my last OC around 7am... did the subutex around 1pm..and nothing happened. been taking subutex for the last 4 days and feel fine. going to stop taking it tonight. but it totally does not make you sick like suboxone
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