25 Feb 2011
Hydrocodone 10/325 (norco m 367) has the highest amount of pain killer opiate of the hydrocodones available. So your question as to why norco m367 (hydrocodone 10/325) is so weak doesn't quite make sense to me. Are you wondering whether the generic is weaker than the brand? I think you will find they are very comparable for this particular med.
Hope this helps,
4 May 2013
rbob, the norco m367 is manufactured by Mallinckrodt, I have taken there 30mg oxycodone light blue with [M] on one side which COMPARED to the 30mg oxycodone marked R 215 [blue] on one side made by ACTAVIS PHARMA is also very weak, actually they suck compared to the Actavis!! I have taken the Norco m367 and agree with you, plain and simple Mallinckrodt med's just are not as good as other manufactures in my opinion. The pharmacist may tell you they are the same and you would expect that but they are not..period!!!
25 Feb 2011
Tylenol and Hydrocodone potentiate each other a bit, however, the combo of the two is terrible for the liver, therefore the reason as to why Norco is becoming more commonly used vs. Vicodin. The low amount of Tylenol may be what is making the drug feel weaker than what you expected. Also, Hydrocodone realistically is one of the weaker Opioids, and depending on what you're comparing it to, could also be a reason. If it is the main brand vs. generic that is weak, then I don't know...
18 Aug 2013
Well this may be way off base but maybe not. I am a hair stylist and I use pretty high end products. I've had clients get generic versions of these and saying its not the same... it's close but not same. In my business, everyone knows its a known fact that products like
GOLDWELL... Matrix... PRAVANA... Bumble & Bumble..Aveda... all have patents and registered trademarks on all products. Companies who make generic versions of this can't legally claim to be the same but merely "compared to... " This is because patent rights forbid another generic company from using the exact same formula... if that was case then any ole body could make these high end products. It's illegal for anyone to use exact same formula and or ingredients. It's possible this goes for ANY generic version of anything. I myself prefer Qualitest or Watson CVS doesn't carry either and it didn't dawn on me until after I left. I was so bummed out and now I'm just waiting to get refill at diff pharmacy. I have seen white 10/325's those worked the best then the yellows which Walgreens and Target carry. Pay the extra money and research which pharms carry which brands... it's worth the extra effort!
Hope this helps! :)
18 Aug 2013
Well, I'm back. My last post mentioned that my pharmacy (a CVS store, used primarily for the "Californian Discount" which takes my $214.00 pain medication prescription and reduces it down to less than $100.00 - that's for 360 pills a month).
So it's been (I don't even remember, 6, or 9 months) since my CVS store switched to the "white Norco". When I last reported in somebody had suggested that there could be up to a +/- 20% difference in the quantity of the individual ingredients in each batch the manufacturer produces. Personally I find that to be bunk since 20% is a huge amount to be "off" by in their pills.
But I took it on face value back then that maybe this could be true and that the reason that the "white norco" were working better for me than the Qualitest and any other "yellow norco" medications is that I got lucky and got a batch that had +20% hydrocodone in the batch of medication that my prescription came from.
Well... It's been like 6 or 9 months now, and I still don't believe that drug manufacturers can be off by as much as + or - 20% in the individual ingredients that go into the "Norco" pain medication. And since it's been like 6 or 9 months now it's highly unlikely that I've just gotten lucky batches every single month for the past 9 months that have had up to and extra 20% hydrocodone in each pill.
So, while some people have complained that these "white colored Norco" pills don't work as good for them, they say they're cheap, they're not as good as the Qualitest, I have the opposite to say.
They've worked the best for me and the pain in my body, much better than the yellow Qualitest Norco pills by far. The only others that I've had in the past # of years that I've had to take this pain medication was when some of the pharmacies were still ordering from Watson labs. I still remember the "Norco" that was manufactured by Watson Labs were the best at knocking out the pain and then one day, all the local mom and pop pharmachies in our small town stopped ordering them and switched to either the "white" pills or to the Qualitest pills and all the larger pharmacies switched to the Qualitest pills until about 6 or 9 months ago when our local CVS switched to the White pills made by the company that starts with an M of which I can't remember their exact name nor even try to spell it (lol).
So yeah, for me, these white ones are the best working to help reduce the pain as well as put a pep in my step, which the Qualitest never did.
23 May 2013
The Generic Norco's that say M367 are made by Malan pharmaceuticals.(Which tend to be on the cheaper side) They are missing a binding ingredient that some of the yellow ones have, The Yellow Norcos made from Qualitest and Watson; your high-quality generic pharmaceuticals carry that binding ingredient .
Yes. you are correct they are not as strong because of the absorption process and that missing binding ingredient. Everyone is different though; Age, Weight, and Height. If you do not care for those just go to a new Pharmacy, most of the major Pharmacy's carry the yellow ones. Depending on what state your from I would stay away from Walmart they most likely carry a contract with Malan Pharmaceuticals.
I am not a professional, just a Pharm Tech this is based on my personal option, not a professional .
20 Feb 2013
M367 is a generic version of norco that sucks! I recently switched pharmacies and they game me these. I hate them. I've been on the yellow ones for a year. They dull my pain. Itchy nose and give me tons of energy. These white ones don't work for me at all. I'm so sick of people coming on here and "FDA" this and "FDA" that. "It's in your head" I call Bs! Bottom line every human is wired differently. They substitute binders and chemicals to save $$. How do I know this? I caught my pharmacist in a lie, and called her out on it. FDA is just as crooked as our politicians. I know my body and I know the discomfort I live with everyday. I've had to live with no relief for almost a month because the pills suck. Just google "m367 weak" ya that's right. I'm not the only one guess were all crazy. So hp ahead and believe what you read. Santa is real too right? Smdh.
30 Apr 2013
I have had several surgeries over the past few years for various problems, and have been on a pain management program for awhile now, and I can assure you... there IS a difference in the different medications that pharmacies give. If I get my Norco 10's in the oval yellow pill, they work fine. I can take one every 6-8 hours and it works. If I get them in the white oval M367 pill, I have to take 1 1/2 to 2 pills every 6-8 hours, and sometimes I will have to take a half in another 3-4 hours. There seems to be a difference in the quality/potency of the ingredients of the generic over the name brand. I have noticed it as well, it's not just you. People commenting to the contrary don't seem to understand what you are asking... I do. There IS a difference, not only in the quality/potency... but the price as well. Basically, you get what you pay for.
31 Jul 2013
Oh the drug companies are so clever, saving 5-10¢ per pill or more by intentionally shorting the amount of medicine because the "law" allows. I decided to do some research on this subject before jumping to conclusions. Anyone out there that think BIG Pharma (the drug companies) have your best interest at heart, raise your hands. I didn't think so. No one? You're correct. As for white & yellow hydrocodone/APAP being different, you bet they are. The new white pills do one thing. Make Actavis money. They are moving from Jersey to Ireland as fast as they can. If you aren't feeling ripped off, you should. They will take their tax dollars with them. Refuse this improperly compounded medicine. Their OWN employees admit "Kinetic Imbalances" which is no different then mom using margarine in the cookies instead of butter. Or leaving out 20% of the salt. If you are so out of your body you can't feel the difference, God help you.
REFUSE those white "Watson" 853 pills, people won't think it's so funny if a batch comes through with 325mg hydrocodone and 10mg acetaminophen.
FYI:Watson quietly bought Actavis for $5.9 Billion last year
4 Sep 2012
The main difference between brand name and generic medications is that generics are legally allowed a 20% margin of error in regards to the purity and amount of active ingredient present in the drugs they manufacture. So if your prescription says 10 mg hydrocodone, the generic version could actually contain anywhere from 8-12 mg in each pill. Pharmaceutical companies are not required to inform us of the real amount or even provide any type of disclaimer on the label, package insert or anywhere else available to the general public for that matter. I have a sneaky suspicion that "accidentally" including the bare minimum required by law might very well be common practice for some of these companies. Not only would 20% be a pretty significant profit increase, but patients would also end up needing more for the drug to be effective. This is merely a theory of course, but it could be why your prescription seems weak to you.
11 Jan 2013
I have been taking 10/325 brand name hydrocodone (yellow oblong) for 4 yrs. I take them for my degenerative disc disease in my back as well as osteoarthritis in both knees as well as peripheral neuoropathy and stage 4 osteoporosis. I recently had double lumbar fusion surgery about six months ago so I think I know a thing or two about PAIN... I recently tried to save a little money and get the generic 367 hydrocodone and i noticed a dramatic difference in the effectiveness... WHY???
- Norco Information for Consumers
- Norco Information for Healthcare Professionals (includes dosage details)
- Side Effects of Norco (detailed)
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