I know you have to wait at least 12 hours with soboxen. a friend told me subutex can be taken as early as 2 hours after herion use.
17 Dec 2010
To the best of my knowledge, u still need to wait at least until u hit a score of 26 on the Clinical Opiate Withdrawal Scale<COWS> test. I am going 2 give u 3 suggestions to try and help u find the correct answer. 1> contact Robert-325 on the forum part of this site and either post a thread 2 him or see if u can find a thread with a similar question, someone was supposed 2 ask him that a day or 2 ago and he may have answered that recently. 2> go 2 the suboxone.com homepage and look for the toll free telephone number and they should be able 2 give u a definitive answer. 3> go 2 wikipedia.org and read the entry for subutex-suboxone-bupenorphine, it won't have the exact answer but it will give you a pretty good bit of info that you need, and it is the reason i suggest people wait and let the opiate recede off their brain receptor sites. Best of Luck to you! pattishan61
16 May 2011
Hello blossompug... My question or rather comments are in refrence to another link or what not... A few weeks ago, a member, ''fallenangel' posted sumthing in which u commented on... You thread though, made me read it over twice, and so i simply have those few, normal and curious questions. That is of course u do not mind i am asking, and I am in know way shape or from am offending you... But first off, how are you anyways??? You sumwhat explained u had an addiction for 14 years, along with some other family members and or loved ones... i just wonder as well if you have at all reached out for help in any way, or is this all just to hard for you to establish a sober life, meeting etc...
I am sorry if i asked to much, or am asking just in general sumthing i should just mind my own buiesness of anyways!!! I do not have any intentions of upsetting you, or getting in the way, and what have you..so when and if u can see what ive wrote, and are at all interested, please respond..i thank u very much, its greatly appreciated, im simply worried, and wish you the absolute best of luck... Take care, and hope u have a wonderful day also :}
16 May 2011
After opiate use you must wait atleast 12 hours b4 taking subutex,,this is what docters recommend altho from my many personal experiences the longer you wait the better.You will be thrown into withdrawel if opiates are still in your system.My succesful attempt at subutex began with approx 24 hours without using,and these were 24 hours of helll but it was so worth the suffering.
12 Oct 2011
It depends, when I have done both, it takes a lot more, which is dangerous, and the high is almost nothing, if anything. That is atleast with me, but I have been on subs for more than i care to say-more than a couple years. Like four, but better than the alternative. But I did not go into withdrawals, it just did not work. And when i needed surgery, they had to have a meeting with my dr and the hospital "team" because they don't even know how high taking these meds makes your tolerance for pain meds so high, but your pain threshold lower, it is actually a curse. Eventually my dr explained that giving me anything less than the strongest med would be like putting a bandaid on a bullet wound.
I am sorry I kind of answered two different questions or comments in there, regarding surgery, another person asked about, and the taking of opiates with subs. hope this helps a little? cat7
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