What is Subutex?
- 7 Jul 2008 by kuhn
i went to the outpatient facility today to get my adivan, clonidine, and sleeping aid, and a woman said i should start on subutex? is that the same as suboxone? i know people are trying hard to get off of it.
she said if i did it for a few days and stopped i would be fine. would it put me back to day one?
i am new to these boards and i see people are reading, but not responding. i promise. i will help heal others with my knowledge if someone, doctor, mother, patient, addict, non-addict would please help.
i am a twenties boy trying desperately to change his life.
7 Jul 2008
i have never taken subutex or suboxone, i'm on methadone. however, i did a lot of reseach on suboxone for my ex so i have a little info.
subutex is suboxone without the naloxone. naloxone causes you to go into immediate withdrawals if u try to abuse it, like shoot it. it is an antagonist, meaning it is a drug that blocks opioids by attaching to the opioid receptors with out activating them. it causes no opioid effect. subutex is buprenorphine. it's a semi-synthetic opioid. it is called an opioid partial antagonist. this means it's maximal effects are much less than those of methadone or heroin, which are full antagonist opioids. it has a higher affinity than other opioids, meaning it will fight for a receptor and win. it will "knock off" other opioids and occupy that receptor, blocking other opioids from attaching to it.
as far as being at day one, since it's a partial agonist rather than a full agonist, i think you could be okay as long as you only took it for a few days during which u would be withdrawing. i used to do the same thing with methadone and it worked for me, my only problem is is i have a muscular disorder and the pain was so great that i would just start doing pills all over again because my back hurt.
anyway i'll be on here again later. hope this helps!
7 Jul 2008
I used opiates for decades and went on subutex for about six weeks total. I then stopped and had no problems whatsoever. I would recommend subutex to anyone not able to do a cold turkey for whatever reason, or if you have relapsed in the past trying to just stop. You should check the naabt.org web site. You can type in your zip code and all the certified drs for subutex or suboxone in your area are listed for your convenience. Good luck.
8 Jul 2008
Hey-I had lots of hope wrapped up in starting subutex. It's the same thing as suboxone but without the nalaxone..spelling? After months of research... I was hoping it would help. It seems like it helps a lot of people. It did nothing for me except make me feel like a tired zombie and did not take away my opiate cravings. That's just me though... there's a lot of people on this board that it's helped. It seems like you are dealing the most with the mental part right now. I hope you feel better soon. I am sure you will.
12 Dec 2010
Ive been on subutex- (buprenorphine 8mg) for about a month and a half, it did get me off the blues I was addicted to. (i was doing close to 10 a day) which realy ruined my life! The "wellness center" which I am going to told me to start only taking 1 in the am and a half at night, after doing 1 in the am and 1 at night for 3 weeks, but ive got my self down to a half in the am. I think they want me to become addicted to the stuff, so ill have to keep coming back to them. If you want to know which detox place not to go to let me know! John
29 Mar 2011
Subutex is a drug that is a real good detox med I was on the methadone program at 120 daily plus benz and alcohol I went to a detox and thats when I found subutex, I'am sure you have suffered the sickness when your out well I was in full blown withdrawals at 50 pluse yrs old its even worse than when you are younger as soon as I got there they gave me a 2mg tablet melt in under the tounge within 5 min I leveled out it was a surprise because I have tried some other meds and they never gave me these results. It is a truly good detox med, but on the other hand it has to be monitored in a clinical setting because subutex is not a maintinence drug you start on a low dose and work your way to a large dose midway and back down takes about 10 days and your through
at the end you will feel some small night sweats and maybe some loose bowels that goes away in a couple of days then rest is up to you if you use or not I reccomend getting into a group such as NA or AA with the detox and a strong will power may produce some real changes in your life and remember there is no painless detox but this is the best I ever seen I am clean today and have been for 8 yrs its a daily chore to do this and a strong will to go with it.To sum up my answer the drug subutex is the best Ive seen it also works on suboxone, the serenity foundation in texas is where i found it 866-795-HOPE but remember it is a dependent drug and can get hooked on real quick this is why Dr.s dont prescibe on a daily basis 10 days an you are through a good support system is a must in beating addiction I suggest that highly you find one and remember you are not alone I would like to here what you think about my answer and maybe it might help I will be pulling for you I have been an addict since I was 20 Clay
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