they are cousins aren't they?
30 May 2011
not sure Lyrica about killed me i had severe adverse reaction to it but i take neuroutin without problems just sleepiness.Neurotin is usually used for nerve pain and Lyrica is for fibromaygia pain (muscle) pain thats my understanding.You may want to look it up and see but why would you want to switch back and forth?Is the neurotin not working?They can up the dose
30 May 2011
This is what i found on it
pregabalin (Lyrica®) was approved by the Food and Drug Administration
(FDA) for the treatment of post herpetic neuralgia (PHN) and painful diabetic peripheral
neuropathy (DPN). Pregabalin has a chemical structure similar to gabapentin
(Neurontin®), a medication originally developed to treat seizures that is now widely used
to treat many varieties of neuropathic pain including CRPS/RSD. Both medications
reduce pain by normalizing overactive pain pathways. Pregabalin is the first drug ever
approved in the United States for two different neuropathic pain conditions. We believe it
will be an important treatment option for many patients with CRPS.
Gabapentin has been a great advance in treating CRPS/RSD and neuropathic pain. In
addition to its effectiveness, it is very safe, with no reports of fatal overdose or organ
failure. However, it does not work for everyone and sometimes the side effects are very
bothersome. Does pregabalin offer an improvement?
There are currently at least six large studies with pregabalin for the treatment of PHN and
DPN. In these studies pregabalin shows up to a 50 percent decrease in pain scores. This
is better than the roughly 30 to 40 percent reduction in pain scores observed in the trials
of gabapentin for the same indications. In addition to pain relief, patients treated with
pregabalin report improvements in sleep, mood, and day-to-day function. Because of its
longer half-life, pregabalin can be dosed on a twice a day schedule. (Gabapentin is dosed
three times a day.) At high doses, much of the gabapentin is never absorbed from the
bowel, whereas pregabalin is easily absorbed at all doses, making for more predictable
dosing. Data suggest that pregabalin can begin reducing pain as quickly as one day after it
has been started. This is quicker than ever reported with gabapentin. Finally, preliminary
results from a study of patients with neuropathic pain who had not responded to
gabapentin and two other medicines shows that even in those patients, pregabalin can
provide significant relief. The majority of patients in this study (who had PHN and
DPN) strongly preferred pregabalin to gabapentin.
In addition to neuropathic pain, pregabalin has been shown to be effective in
fibromyalgia pain, the pain after spinal cord injury, and anxiety.
Pregabalin comes in 8 dosage strengths from 25mg up to 300mg. All capsule sizes are the
same price Roughly 1,800 mg of pregabalin is approximately $90, while pregabalin twice
a day for all doses is around $118.
Gabapentin and pregabalin have similar side effects. The most common are dizziness and
sedation. Patients placed on gabapentin usually experience side effects as they titrate
slowly up to an effective dose, which is roughly 1,200 to 3,600 mg per day. Conversely,
for patients taking pregabalin the typical starting dose of 150 mg per day can be helpful..
The range of effective doses is 150 to 600mg per day. For both medications, side effects
tend to decrease over time. Less common side effects include peripheral edema and
weight gain especially when taken in combination with oral hypoglycemics.
Pregabalin is categorized by the FDA as a schedule V drug, the lowest level of
surveillance from the FDA. This means it is a controlled substance.
The earliest reports of gabapentin's use in treating pain were case reports of a few
patients with CRPS/RSD who improved with gabapentin. Unfortunately, there have never
been larger, controlled studies that definitively prove the benefits of gabapentin. As of yet,
there are no studies in CRPS/RSD for pregabalin. CRPS and all other nerve pathology
other than PHN and DPN are considered off label since studies in nerve pain have only
been done in these specific conditions
30 May 2011
So you are saying that because they are cousins, they are interchangeable? By your logic then, first cousins should be allowed to marry then. Right? Ooh - guess not - we'd have a lot of strange children by that logic. Ha! I was on Neurontin for a long time, it helped some. I went off it and went on Cymbalta - it helped better. Forget the Neurontin! I stayed on Cymbalta and went on Lyrica - it helped a lot! Much, much better than the Neurontin. I feel that while they are alike, the Lyrica is so much better than the Neurontin. Interestingly enough, I see a pharmacist for wellness counseling and she and the head pharmacist say that you should only be on one of the nerve pain meds. They work by scrambling the nerve signals in the brain, and the brain doesn't know what to do with it so it is stored in the fat cells, not eliminated. These meds actually cause more neuropathy. Interesting.
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