I have suffered with anxiety and depression for the past several years - I have been diagnosed with everything from MDD, Bi-Polar disorder (although every doc I've seen except the one disagrees with the bipolar diagnosis), Dystymia, GAD, Panic Disorder... the list goes on and on. Anyhow I feel like I have been on every SSRI known to man (except prozac), SSNRIs, and benzos. I spent about a year on effexor and thought that is was maybe possibly helping a tiny bit - but the only thing I ever had true relief with is Xanax. Anyhow my psychiatrist had me on a combination of Xanax XR and Effexor but I was still not seeing the results I wanted. I was also going through Cognitive Behavriol Therapy. I just feel like I've tried it all. Anyhow a few months ago I decided to go off the effexor. I figured I was still very depressed so it wasn't helping much so what was the point of popping the pills. It took me a long time to tapper down but have been off since Jan 25th. After the first few weeks of being off the effexor it was a relief - I didn't feel any better but I didn't feel any worse. After being off now for over a month I have begun to be very angry and cry at the drop of the hat - I feel like I spend all day everyday trying to just hold it together and Im exhausted. Im confused though because all these "feelings" were still there when i was on the effexor... it's just like the effexor didn't let it come all the way to the surface. I would have a short fuse, but be able to hold the anger in. I would feel terrible sadness and like I wanted to cry but couldn't. Im not sure if this makes any sense at all or if anyone has experienced anything similar - im just not sure if i should go back on the meds or not. Any relief I had was minimal, but at least I could hold it together or hold it in. I feel like I am entirely out of options. No more meds to try and the therapy thing just has never worked. To complicate things more, I've seen several psychiatrists over the years and they have all been awful - except one. Everyone I've seen talks to you for 2-5mins tops and then writes a perscription. The last psych I saw was different... he'd spend 20-30 mins talking to me about how things were going and I felt like he truly tried to understand what I was going through. I can't return to the 2-5min people that just write a perscription without even knowing what is going on but the good psych has moved his practice to another city. I had him recommend some docs before he left but they are all either not accepting new patients or don't take my insurence. What do I do??? So frustrated. Also has anyone tried any add-on meds like abilify or seraquel? The psych that I was seeing that i did like didn't want to put me on one of those add-ons because they are newer for depression and he just didn't feel comfortable using them. Anyone have any experience? Btw if it matters I am still taking the xanax xr but in the past few weeks it's effectivness seems to be wanning.
Was going off my antidepressant a bad idea?
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- 2 Mar 2011 by Rascal01
- Topics:
- depression, anxiety, generalized anxiety disorder, antidepressant
Responses (11)
2 Mar 2011
Hey Rascal01,
Yes, I understand. I have had many diagnosises too. Presently I accept that I am Bipolar type 2. I rarely get manic, but often, when I am not medicated, get depressed. I presently take Pristiq, a SNRI, that is very similar to Effexor. My doctor describes Pristiq as a "cleaned up" version of Effexor meaning it has less side effects. I also take Abilify, one of the add on medications you spoke of. It enhances the effectiveness of the antidepressant.
I have tried many antidepressants in the past, just as you have. I have spent many years in therapy. I presently have a psychiatrist that spends as much time with me as I need for which I am very greatful.
2 Mar 2011
Hi Ya, You were right for goin off your effixor only cause you tapered off. Im proud of you. Sometimes no, a lot of times the antidepressents I wouldn't be able to cry at all. I like couldn't. I am one of those with an add on abilfy 5 mg in am 5 mg pm. If your going to do that the doctor should only prescribe you a small dose with an anti depressent. Do you have diabetes? You can not take abilify if you do, it contains sugar... and also may make you gain weight do to that fact like me. I gained a little but the other weight gain was from the freaken zoloft or any of the other ones.Ah I think Welbutrin didn't add any weight on me. I am on also one of the newer drugs cymbalta and I feel a big difference in my depression. I am bipolar2. For you I hope that next session with your new psychiatrist remains 30 min again cause sometimes they do that with your first visit like a psych evaluation 30min to 1 hr then its back to 10-15min tops.
2 Mar 2011
Hello Rascal01, Just a quick note. I know exactly what you are going thru. I took it upon myself (dc didn't know) to stop Celexa cold turkey. Everything was fine untl that 1 month marker just like you. Then the uncontrollable crying, deep depression, guilt over kids seeing me cry, a terrible feeling of dread and it goes on-you know the feeling. And those were just the emotional reactions, I had terrible physical symptoms too. I was minutes away from putting myself into the hospital for some relief
I made an emergency appt with my psychiatrist, told him, and he got upset at me stopping without his approval. He said there is a syndrome associated with SSRI withdrawal and I had it. Sure enough when he put me back on Celexa it took 3 days and then I was no longer crying or in emotional pain.
Fastforward to today changed to Lexapro and doing great. So there is hope for you. Tell the doc everything you're feeling.
2 Mar 2011
Hi Rascal01~First I would like to say Im sorry you are in this place but to also tell you there is hope for a better future. I was diagnosed with BPII 25 years ago. I seemed to have been on every medication there is but Im doing well on just lithium and lamectial. I relate in many ways. Either the med did not work or I had mj SE that I could not live with but when I quit something I called the dr. If they did not agree at least they would tell me the safest way to come off. I could not tell by your note if you were making choices without help. I have been spoiled with my P's as they listened to what I had to say about the SE of med ect. My therapist has been my life line these years. I hear you talk about CBT. At some point skills such as these might be helpful, they have been for me and I still use them but when we are really depressed like you are... you cant think sometime to actually do them. Try to be gentle with yourself. You are worth it.
2 Mar 2011
Hi, I know what your going through. The dr. that put me on the effexor did not tell me how bad the side effects would be if I wanted to get off. He never took blood work on me and when I told my other dr's they were shocked I also take xanax when I get the panic and to sleep at night. Forget the psychiatrists. Same thing talked to me for a few minutes and wanted to give me more meds. That is just covering up what is really wrong. Pills are fine but they don't fix everything. My therapist I have now is very good and she doe's not give out medication. We talk about things. Sometimes it helps and other times it doesn't but I look at it this way what are all these meds doing to your body over a long period of time. We are this way for a reason and we all need to find out what it is. My doctor told me that I may be this way the rest of my life and I want to be able to deal with things. I can't work in the public so My dr.
3 Mar 2011
Rascal01, my husband has been depressed all his life (he's now 60). He attemted suicide at 16, & probably 10 or more times with his meds for pain & anxiety over the years. The last time, he almost did it He was "postering", & they had me call any & everyone that would want to say goodbye to him. Well, he made it thank God, & while in the ICU the physciatrist that talked to me was on call that weekend. He started medicating & seeing my hubby. He diagnosed him as bi-polar manic depressive. He put him on Zoloft. Started at a low dose & has worked up to 100mg a day now. This was about 8 years ago. My man is a new MAN! He is happy, not withdrawn, no more every three months of leaving me, fighting, etc... I don't normally talk about this to people, but you really need your meds. Maybe you just haven't gotten the right ones. Please don't give up! Talk to your doctor again.
3 Mar 2011
Rascal, I posted earlier and I have given a great deal of thought to you and your problems perhaps it would be a good idea to just make an appointment and go in and discuss this with your doctor, after all you seem to have come to a decision as to what you are going to do perhaps once he talk with you he will then see how important it is to you and maybe take a different view on your condition as a whole, he may even think that you are making a positive strp in the right directon, eitherway it's a good idea. you deserve to be heard and he needs to know what steps you are about to take, I know it is frustrating but I think there comes a time when we need to just be open with the doctors and tell them what we feel about the current situation. it might be a turning point for you both, I wish you only the very very best, Please feel free to contact us here if you just need someone to talk to, sometimes that's a big help, I am very interested in you being the best you can be.
3 Mar 2011
if you are truley diagnosed with all those disorders then the anti depression medication will atleast take the edge of the anxiety of having these problems. if you feel that making her go cold turkey is good remember (side effect can be more damaging then if you just took them right along).
Those are ust the various diagnosis I've been given depending on the doc I've seen. My primary care doc and the one "good" pdoc I referenced both say it's a combo of GAD and MDD - I tend to agree with them since they are both the only docs that have spent more than 10 min talking to me before telling me what's wrong with me. Thank u for the advice.
Thank you everyone for your kind words and concern. Over the past few days I've managed to get an appointment with a highly recommended therapist and have seen my primary care doc (who I've seen since I was 12yrs old and I'm now in my 30's so he knows me very well and I've always held him in very high regard). Hes put me on pristiq as of today and I seem him in a few weeks and will decide weather or not to add something like seraquel at that time. At the very least I am feeling more hopeful today than I have in awhile that there is a way to sort myself out. I thank u all so much for your advice and encouraging words and for sharing your own experiences with me. Helps me to know I'm not alone.
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Laurie,
You have helped - helps just to know there are others out there that have had similar experiences.
Thank you for your response.
Hi, I know what your going through. I have been on meds and now I am coming off. It is very hard. I cant be around people. I have a great doctor who has helped me with panic attacks and I have the xanax to help me get through the attacks. I have been on the effexor for 7 years and it helped but it was not getting to the root of my problems. I want to be able to deal with things that happen to me in my past, that is the real problem. I don't have alot of answers but with a good doctor there is hope. Vincent1905
Vincent, thank u for your response. I am just at a total loss as to what to do. I appreciate u listening/reading/responding to my questions and comments. All I know is I can't go on like this. I work odd hours and on my way home from work an hour ago I almost went to the ER because I was so worried about getting thru the night. The good news is I took a Xanax had a glass of wine ( I realize this is NOT an ideal solution and it's not something I make a habit of at all!) and have set my alarm for 8am to see if I can get into my primary care doc tomorrow or asap. This evening has made it clear that I'm just not in a good place and I need to get help asap - I will make it thru the night tho and will continue to fight for the help I need. Thank u for your response. It just hurts. I feel so guilty that I have such a wonderful life family and friends and so many people lack the support I have but still manage to go on. Hopefully my primary care doc can point me in the right direction.