I am anxious all the time. I'm scared of interacting with people, going out, oh God I could go on and on. Is there any relief from anxiety? It's a part of my thoughts but also my body. I have rushes of adrenaline for no reason, heart races spontaneously, my body is rigid, breathing shallow. When I catch myself like this, I try to "relax" like people are always trying to say to me. I DON'T KNOW HOW. I'm asking this because I have an appt coming up with my doctor. The celexa and klonopin aren't working. So I'm asking for help, what has worked for anyone like me? Is it just not possible to get rid of this much anxiety? I hope I don't sound pathetic. I thought maybe someone has experienced something new that's come out that i haven't heard of or something, ok i'll stop rambling, any ideas welcome
18 Jan 2011
I do not suffer with anxiety quite like you do, so sorry this is happening to you !! Perhaps a switch from Klonopin to Valium might help you.
I've heard that Valium affects the body as well as the brain with anxiety. It can help with being tense. Talk to your doc about this situation.
Best wishes to you, hope you feel better,
18 Jan 2011
have you ever dealt with extended release Xanax 2 or 3mg one tablet four times daily, my pain doctor will prescribe this the 3mg was too strog for me so she reduced it to 2mg Extended release four times daily Valium I think the strongest dose is 10mg and its given four times a day I am not for sure about Klonapin have never taken this have heard people who have had good results, just me but I get to thinking sometimes the SSRI's cause more problems than they help with Lexapro, Celexa I don't mean to offend anyone if it works for you I am so pleased but I haven't had the best experiences with them, of course its like pain meds what works for one won't work for another I wish you the very best and please keep me posted
18 Jan 2011
Yes! There is relief from anxiety. Finding the answer is the tricky part. Some folks need medication AND therapy. Others find therapy alone works. Some may disagree on this but I think there's usually an underlying, unresolved issue(s) causing this. I used to have really bad panic attacks. I knew what was causing them but didn't know how to stop them. I did end up going to my doctor for help. He put me on xanax for a while and it did help. But that darn underlying issue was still unresolved. I was just covering up the symptoms with the xanax. I ended up where the prescription wouldn't last half the month! I knew I had to get this resolved. I did get in to some counseling and talked about my issues and asked what I should do about it. Standard response, "What do you think YOU should do about it?" Gee, thanks Doc! And you're getting paid HOW much? Long story short, I worked up the nerve to deal with something that was really bothering me.
I blurted out my story and was shocked by the response I got back. It was very positive! Do you know how relieved I felt getting this off my mind?? It was like a burden had been lifted.
I'm not saying this may be your situation, Cathleen, but I know talking about things that bother you can help. Exercising, walking a lot, reading, even doing some volunteer work. Keeping active and busy. I know it's not easy when you feel anxious around people. Maybe start with something you can do alone or with your family. You might want to look in to meditation and yaga too! Deep breathing exercises, tightening up and releasing all your muscles; starting from your feet, working all the way up to your shoulders, neck, even the hand and fingers. Tighten, hold, and sloooowly release. Concentrate on each and every muscle. It really will relax you. Physically at least.
THEN there's medications. But as a last resort. Really try to talk with your doctor. I mean really talk! Not only can it help your doctor understand you better, it's good practice for when you get out and do things with other people. You CAN do this. Have some confidence in yourself. Hold your head up high and don't think you're the only one who feels this way. I really can relate. As do so many others. If the doc Rx's a different BDP, discuss the longer lasting ones like Sweet suggested, Valium is pretty good. Some of them really gave me bad headaches. I take the valium now for spasms and pain. Yes, they can help with pain too. For me they do. I don't know if I helped at all but really do try and talk with your doctor. Cognitive therapy, relaxation techniques, meds, and posting here! All good therapies!
Keep up the fight and best wishes,
18 Jan 2011
Hi Cathleen: There's SAD , Which I got , so I know the meaning of ... and GAD , which I don't know the meaning of , but anyway , drugs scare hell out of me so I avoid 'em when I can. Seasonal Affective Disorder SAD, is mostly caused by lack of sufficient Sunshine (Not lack of vitamin -D) , so I bought a "Sunshine Supplement Light System" called "Happy Light Deluxe"! It's a bit expensive ($200), but it's easy, and after just one week I think it's starting to work. You just find a comfortable chair, set it up so the Lite shines on your face , get comfortable , and sit there for 15 min. to 1/2 hr. You can't look directly at it (just like sunlight!) but that's no problem. If anyone's interested, tell me and I will send you the address via D.D.C. as for drugs, one of the "Welbutrins" is recommended. Sacosam
18 Jan 2011
I can sympathize with your plight. I suffered from global anx. for 50 years; my rescue came in the combination of citalopram and bupropion. It's interesting that bup. could have an effect on anxiety. It is an "unusual" anti-depressant in that it has no serotonin effect; instead, it inhibits the reuptake of norepinephrine and dopamine. Norepi. is of course the "speed" chemical in the brain, closely related to amphetatmines, which you'd think would make you more anxious. But it for me seems to work the way amphetamines work for kids with HDLD: it focuses or directs the bundled chaos of that neurotransmitter system; along with the dopamine, which is the "goal setting" the "vision" part of the brain, it streams the anxiety towards goals; it gives some order to the chaos.
Now, this is all purely anecdotal, and probably your Doc would dismiss it, but here it is for what it's worth.
Practically, you might consider with your doc a switch to Lexapro, a more concentrated (i think) version of celexa. Did you also say you have Panic Disorder? I certainly also had that extremely frightening disorder, but it too was washed away along with my constant chronic anxiety after starting the bupropion.
On the klonopin/ valium issue, I would be very careful: you will NOT get long term releif from GAD with those benzodiazapines. I have a script for xanax (the drug of choice for panic because it acts so quickly), but i restrict my dosage as much as possible; often, just having it with me seems to relieve the anxiety; that I might have a panic attack. Or rather, it used to. I may be just lucky, but the Bupropion has been a life saver for me.
So for long term anxiety reduction you're going to need an effect serotonin targeted drug, perhas in combination with another drug. You might ask you doc about Effexor, a combo serotonin/ norepinephrine drug.
Good luck, and talk with your doc (is he a psychopharmacologist?) Only a psychopharm. psychiatrist will really know enough to fine-tune your meds.
Oh, one more thing, you might ask about Abilify and Lamictal (a schizophrenia drug originally). I took Lamictal for a month and got no effect. And both are extremely expensive, esp. the Abilify, a fairly new drug.
18 Jan 2011
All these comments advocating valium, xanax, klonopin, etc. really bother me. THEY ARE NOT LONG TERM SOLUTIONS. Plus, your body quickly builds tolerance to them, which doesn't seem to happen with anti-depressants, certainly not as quickly. Anxiety is an expression of depression, so you really need your primary med(s) to be true antidepressants. Making more serotonin available has a "relaxing" effect. and while xanax works for maybe an hour or two (at first) you do "come down" and need more. This WILL NOT HAPPEN WITH ANTIDEPRESSANTS!
Again, good luck!
19 Jan 2011
To all those who responded, thank you. I'll take it all into consideration for my next appt. This anxiety is too much and now I'm going thru addiction and my son was diagnosed with ADHD and Aspergers, and so lots is going on. Stress tends to make me more anxious. I know its bad to say, but opiates help my anxiety, why is that? I think that's why I tend to cling to them more than benzos. I'm truly messed up.
19 Jan 2011
I hope this suggestion helps I am sorry if I overheard the druggist wrong about insurance not paying but if that is the case your doctor can always get a prior authorization saying you have tried many things and he would like to try this usually that goes through in 24 jours Celexa didn't work for me it made me worse I know everyone isn't alike, I would either sleep or be jittery
20 Jan 2011
I forget who said it... but the reccomendation to do yoga, walking, etc., gave very sound advice. Don't get me wrong, I pop pills all day long to combat my own varieties of madness, but I also know, if you can motivate yourself to do those kinds of things, those type of activities do help. Oh, and the tighteninng of the muscles, starting with the bare feeet and slowly tighten muscles up your body is really good. When you finally get up to the top of your head and release all your muscles - voila! - no nervousness. Any exersize is good. And finally, practicing slow, controlled, deep breathing would be good for you, so when you panic, just start focusing on your breath. I don't know why, but it helps to have that tool in your back pocket. It helps you regain control. Beleive me, before I learned these tools in DBT, I was walking around hyper-ventilating at the drop of a hat.
Post-script - I hated it when someone would tell me to "calm down" - it would just make everything worse.
20 Jan 2011
I was at a point in time until I was afraid to talk and respond with people afaid they might think I was crazy, I was so focused on every word I said until by the time a day was done I was physically and emotionally exhausted I think the Lexapro and them giving me the freedom to use Xanax 2mg in an extended release form it just seemed to help although having a knowlegable doc she warned me not to use more of the Xanax than I had to she put a limit of four times a day on the extended release but I did not take more than 2 per 24 hrs, I think it helped just knowing I had something and if things got bad I had something I could fall back to but as (I think Marvell said no one would want to go through Benzodiazepine withdrawl) I watch it and know that the doctor is willing to listen and help make adjustements as needed. I wish you the very best I care about you and if I can help in any way please let me know
25 Jan 2011
you have to fight and fight hard I have had problem with Chronic Pain and serious anxiety, each time I think I can't take it I fight harder and harder work with the medications, keep telling yourself I can do this, I have experienced it so bad I thought it would kill me, don't ever ever give in, you are stronger than you ever know, the more you keep tellingyourself I can do this the simpler it will become, not at first but the more you do the better it will get!! I want only the best for you, I don't look at this as rambling I think you need a friend to help encourage you and to help give you the strength to get through, just remeber when it comes in waves it will get better especially the harder you fight. you take care and please know I do care and do understand
17 Feb 2011
I have suffered from panic attacks all my life to the point where I have butterflies in my stomach 24/7 and fear everything and anything! I hate it I also have tried xanax and klonopin but having a addictive personality these were no good for me so I now take effexor 150 mg a day and it works great. Mayby you can try this I have tried lexapro and a miriad of others but effexor is the only one that works for me. Good luck :)
18 Feb 2011
I have recently figured out that I have GAD as well. It started this summer for no real reason that I can see. I had major, major panic attacks, hospital, etc. I simply could not function.
One drug that works for me on an occasional basis is called Mirtazapine. It's also used "off-label" for help with sleep. It's primary function is for depression (excuse me if I'm wrong). While in the hospital, my docs realized how I just absolutely could not sleep (very addicted/tolerant of ambien: been using it for years and years daily) and they prescribed the mirtazapine. I notice when I use it that it helps me sleep and reduces my anxiety. BUT; it also makes you kind of drowsy and like you are walking through jello. It may be worth mentioning to your doc if the other things aren't working. I only take it in extreme measures bc I know how wiped I will feel the next day, but you can try a really small dose.
Anyways, good luck. I understand. I don't leave my house. Just sit on the couch or bed and wish things were different.
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