... started them yet, will it be harder to stop taking subutex?
24 Jun 2012
Stopping Subutex vs Suboxone will be the same. They both contain the medication buprenorphine which is the opiate that your body becomes dependent upon. The Suboxone contains the added medication called naloxone which is added to prevent drug addicts from injecting this med.
16 Oct 2012
After 4 years on 32 mg of sub I did Ibogaine as I was desperate. It worked The Ibogaine was amazing as it did in one day what I couldn't do in years. From 32mg to 0 and only mild wd. I got home and succumbed to the wd and took 2mg of sub. Now I need to taper as the sub is so binding to the receptors. I am going to examine the various suggestions and talk to my sub dr. If I hadn't rushed the treatment and allowed more time on morphine sulphate prior to ibo dosing it would have worked 100 pct. def worth the 7000 after years of suffering. Want to know if anyone has had any similar experience.
24 Jun 2012
dear NoMore, now would be the time to enlist your subutex dr in your plan to be free of subutex and opiates. Some find it easier to drop by 1 mg instead of 2 once they get down to a total of 4 mgs per day. You basically are reversing the opiate dependence and opiate tolerance, when you are tapering off, so think of this as a subutex diet for your brain. If you can, try to eradicate ALL fear of getting off of subutex, once that fear is gone, you will be more comfortable. You KNOW this won't kill you to taper off, you actually are doing this right, so give yourself a big pat on the back and hold you head high. Can you go to my profile by clicking my avatar nd reading my profile story. It contains the info about my taper and the walking for exercise tip and others. The walking for exercise is actually very beneficial when you taper and it helps you stabilize more quickly. Patti
24 Jun 2012
I'm detoxing of 8mg of Suboxone and have been on it for 2 years. Pattishan61 has really helped me and i think gives excellent advice. I'm in my 1st week so I don't have any advice but I dropped to 5mg right away. I started this past Tuesday (5 days ago) and so far so good. Everybody that has responded to my questions was very helpful. I've taken both, Soboxone and Subutex. Subutex is much cheaper! I'm doing my detox just like Pattishan61. I've got 60 pills and can get more if I have to but I'm going to this this in 3 to 4 week bits. If you read her story or take some of the suggestions she offers it makes sense. Especially about what this stuff does to our receptors in our brains. In 3 weeks I'm dropping to 4mg. Then in 3 weeks I'll drop to 3 and 2 weeks after that drop to 2. I'll stay at 2mg for 4 weeks and drop to one. Like Pattishan61 says, if you go to low just take a crumb if you absolutely have to.
I really want to do this and I hope you do too. If not it won't work. The biggest thing for me is not listening to what my head tells me. (It's never as bad as what my head is telling me! LOL) I wish you good luck and I know you can do it. Pattishans61 method makes a lot of sense to me. It may take a while to get through but if you think about it it makes a lot of sense. Worthwhile things normally do take time.
4 Dec 2012
I am so so glad this info is all here.. I have been in a mess, wondering if I ever ever have a chance at getting off subutex at ALL.. When I first started taking it 3 1/2 years ago, I didn't have a plan, I thought that if I needed to use it forever for chronic pain then so be it.. I see now, with it affecting me a lot, and also trying to figure out what exactly my real problems are (bipolar, manic depressive), I need to be almost, or ALL the way off Subutex AND Klonopin. Currently I am at around 24
Mgs of subutex, and at 3mgs of klonopin daily, my goal is to be at 16mgs of subutex, and 2mgs of klonopin within 2 weeks. It may seem like to big of a drop, but I feel that I can accomplish it, with very little withdrawal pain (if any) involved.. Just wanted to say thank you, I'm glad to have you all here to help, and I am sorry that SO many people are in the same situation, but at least we're all together on this, and we all seem to have the same ideas on what a good taper schedule is. I have tapered off klonopin in the past, so I KNOW it's possible for me to accomplish. I will, and CAN do this again, the right way. :) if anyone needs help or wants to chat, plz feel free to
Message me, I have a whole book of info in my head about both sub and benzodiazepines. Thank you all, for just being here.. I need this right now, so very much. ~Manda
24 Jun 2012
Hi nomore, When I got down to 4mg of suboxone I dropped 1mg per week. When I got down to 1mg I took it for the week and just stopped taking anything. There was only slight discomfort and I do mean slight the last week on 1mg. And when I stopped completely it was a piece of cake. I was very worried about being sick from sub wds, have to go to work, and just didn,t want to be sick but it was nothing. The first week I was waking up 3-4 times a night but could go right back to sleep. I was getting a full nights sleep. I chocked it up to the fact that it was the first time in a long time that I was sleeping without any meds. in my system. I,ve been off the suboxone since June 6th. I don,t take anything. Everyones body is different. I,ve read about bad wds. off subs. I think that flipped me out a little when I,d think about getting off them. If and when your ready you can get off subs.
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