Suboxone troubles!!Help!?
- Posted:
- 7 Dec 2010 by jbomb
- Topics:
- suboxone, subutex
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I went to my Suboxone doctor yesterday and told her all the things that have been going on and she will NOT switch me to Subutex. It pisses me off because I get drug tested everytime I get a new script of Suboxone and I smoke trees here and there and when the test comes up positive for TCH my doctor threatens me with lower doses which makes me fucking withdrawl! I've been on 8mg since March and since my test was positive for TCH my Suboxone doctor only wrote me a script for 4 fucking tablets (that means I only have 4mg a day) and told me when I come back and have a clean urine she will put me back up on 8mg. I'm fucking pissed and I want to switch to Subutex. I think it's bullshit that Subonxone doctors can tell you everything is going to be okay but they just get you hooked on another form of dope. ANY SUGGESTIONS!!!
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7 Dec 2010
WOW!! She really did put you in a bind, and she most likely will force you into WDs by cutting your dose in half like she is doing. Where do you live? Have you searched the Internet for other Subox Docs in your area? Has she been appointed to be your Dr. by the Courts or something? I am fortunate in that I never had a legal problem abusing scripts so and I have never had to submit to a drug screen and I am not familiar with how you end up with a certain physician. If you are not locked into this Dr. for legal purposes, please go find a new Dr. Also, and I have told you this b4, are you trying to get clean, or are you simply trying to comply with whomever is testing you. There is a big difference. If you want to get clean, you need to stop smoking weed PERIOD! Why are you smoking it? It is creating a problem for you and yet you are still smoking it.
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You have to make a decision what it is you want in life, do you want to get clean or high?? We are all here to help if you want to get clean, but we can't help you if you don't want to help yourself!! Sorry to tell you that but I believe you need to hear it. Tbone
7 Dec 2010
Jbomb, i sent u a private post, please go to ur profile, click on Ques. and anws., that should show u some txt in blue with my ques. , my answs., and my prvt. ques. click on my prvt. ques to read it. i posted last time and the site snatched it so i sent my advice privately. i am going to try and add one more piece of advice b4 u read it, it is relavant, its just a suggestion. pattishan
7 Dec 2010
I'm not in a legal bind or anything. I chose to stop using opiates in January and started an intensive outpatient program. I started using street suboxone until I was perscribed my own in March. From Feb-May I did not use marijuana and was simply taking 8mg per day. Where I am perscribed Suboxone and everywhere else they perscribe it here in Ohio ALL doctor's drug test! I have never heard of a Doctor not drug testing everytime a script is written. I've been smoking on and off since i was 16. I have back pain not chronic but I enjoy smoking. I will smoke until the day I die. It has nothing to do with me relapsing on heroin. I have not use a single opiate In January 15, 2010 thanks to my Suboxone. But now I'm at the exact same position I was one year ago when I was addicted to opiates. I see my doctor again Monday and she's putting me back to 8mg for 2 weeks then 6mg for a month then 4mg for a month then 2mg and so on. Do you think if I taper slowly like that all my withdrawl symptoms will go away??
8 Dec 2010
Believe it or not, yours is the first time I ever heard of a sub doctor actually having a taper plan! They usually get you on it, keep you on it, and when you ask about coming off it some day, they look at you like a deer caught in the head lights. Huh? You mean it's meant for temporary use? Yes, it is! It's a money racket if I ever saw one. It's not meant to control chronic pain either. Do you have a back up plan after the sub treatment for you back problems? With that in mind, isn't it worth quitting weed if you're going to be tapering off the subs soon anyway? It would at least not piss the doc off and things may go a little smoother for you while under her care. Patti has the best info on subs. Get in touch with her. Personally, I'm an advocate for legalizing (at least decriminalizing) marijuana, look at some of my old posts here. I have no problems with people smoking it, especially if it helps with pain and appetite for very ill people.
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But since it's causing such a problem with your doc, maybe let it go until you can safely ween off the subs. It's a long process but Patti can really help you out with a great taper plan. But I also think your doc should not be playing games with your dosage. It's as if she's holding your peace of mind hostage. Good luck to you, jbomb. Regardless of the marijuana use, your doc should NOT be increasing and decreasing your dose at her whim. THAT'S what I would be upset about since it's obviously messing with your tolerances and system. I hope it works out for you and best wishes.
chris
10 Dec 2010
Even if she switched you to subutex you would have to have a clean drug test. In what way is the naloxone bothering you?
12 Dec 2010
Your Dr. can dictate her requirements for you. She sounds like a good Dr. to me. I have seen some sub Dr.s prescribe everything from xanax to speed and the point of being on the suboxone is to get off drugs, not switch to something else. I have seen people doing methamphetamines and coming down off the xanax the sub Dr. gives them and using the subs to stay off the heroin while they do meth. If you want to get clean you will follow your Dr.s orders. The ball is in your court. You are protesting too much ???
12 Sep 2011
That is awful, the only thing i can think is the dr is afraid if you are smoking, this could also lower heart rate and bp, and cause major probs. i do not agree with the dr just slashing you like that. it may be harder now that ever not to smoke green by for this month def do not. i an on subutex and i have a lot of support and i understand that i am not clean unless i abstain from everything, unless it is prescribed to me and take iit only as directed. if you hang in there it will get netter. i slipped up a few weeks ago and smoked, my mom found out, and now i regret it , but it also opened that addict part of my brain that wants whatever i can get my hands on all the time. good luck,
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Hate to say it, but I agree with TBone on this, quit the ganga, if you want your Suboxone. Pot is legal for medicinal purposes in my state, are you smoking it for medical reasons?
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I'm not in a legal bind or anything. I chose to stop using opiates in January and started an intensive outpatient program. I started using street suboxone until I was perscribed my own in March. From Feb-May I did not use marijuana and was simply taking 8mg per day. Where I am perscribed Suboxone and everywhere else they perscribe it here in Ohio ALL doctor's drug test! I have never heard of a Doctor not drug testing everytime a script is written. I've been smoking on and off since i was 16. I have back pain not chronic but I enjoy smoking. I will smoke until the day I die. It has nothing to do with me relapsing on heroin. I have not use a single opiate In January 15, 2010 thanks to my Suboxone. But now I'm at the exact same position I was one year ago when I was addicted to opiates. I see my doctor again Monday and she's putting me back to 8mg for 2 weeks then 6mg for a month then 4mg for a month then 2mg and so on. Do you think if I taper slowly like that all my withdrawl symptoms will go away??
Hi... YES! Sacosam
Hi ; A question for one of you guys if I may... I always thought subutex was just a generic for suboxone. If one goes on subutex, does that eliminate the necessity for a supervisory Dr??? [not that these girls are Drs. If one was to check, my instincts say they are "N.P's , or Nurse Practioners] Sacosam
subutex is not a generic of suboxone. subutex is buprenorphine.suboxone is buprenorphine and naloxone togather. The nalxone is just added to keep people from injecting it (doing that would put someone in to immediate whdls)basically its in there to prevent misuse. There is generic subutex--- buprenorphine. There is not yet a generic suboxone. Subtex is given only under certainstances due to the likelyhood of being misused. If taken correctly... only a very negligable amt of naloxone gets into your system. It is not metabolized sublingual. sory about spelling--- badkeyboard
Hi & Thank you "BEBE" for that great info. I find it hard to understand how a new and great program to help good people in pain, and those who had accidentally gotten themselves hooked on opiates, get clean, straight ,and sober, could turn into such a complete fiasco in just a few years. Sacosam
Hey Jbomb; smarten up wiseguy. You don't get to pick & choose which drugs you want off, and which drugs make you giggle. You either back off and get completely clean , or go do your total thing until you come back whinin' cryin' and beggin' for like "Somebody please help me"! "Your Dr' s on the goodfoot"... "Your not"! Sacosam
I still don't agree with you. But I'm officially weening off and have been taking only 2mg for over a week with very slight withdrawls. My goal is to be off suboxone within the next month, 2 at the most. Thanks for everyone's opinions.