i have been suffering from opiate addiction and have been on and off using oxycontin 80mg and heroin for the passed 2 years. yesterday i was placed on suboxone induction to help with withdrawals and it is working but only to a certain point. i feel like the relief im getting dosent last as long as it should and i dont really want to increase the dosage i am on 12 mgs total daily ( 8 mgs in the morning and 4mgs at night). even at this point i feel like the sub dosent work as well as it should because i still am experiencing moderate withdrawals and i would like to switch from suboxone to methadone. i was wondering how i would go about doing this ? i am not sure if the psychiatrist i went to yesterday can prescribe methadone or i would to go to a clinic who probably wont accept me because of my age. but i would be willing to give methadone a shot because i know people who it has worked wonderfully for. anyhelp would be greatly appreciated
6 Mar 2010
Bottom line is that everyone is different. I have friends that speak highly of Suboxone. I myself think it's horrible. Yes, it does help you to come off Oxy's but then you have to detox again off of Sub. Why detox twice? Sub. detox is even harder than Oxy's to get off of. Good luck to all of us... There is no right or wrong answer. Whatever can get us clean is all that matters.
27 Apr 2010
Ive been on methadone for 6 years and im trying to get off it too. Im down from 110 mgs to 20 mgs a day but there is still horrible withdrawl if i miss a day. I get take homes so if i take more one day then i suffer one day. It sucks and at the clinic i go to we(the patients) are treated like junkies. I hate that so i called about suboxone today. I dont know which is better but having to go to the clinic everyday for 2 years then every week since gets old quick.
19 Jul 2010
I really feel your pain! I was on heroin for over a decade and I'm 26 years old now so I got started early. Anyway- about methadone v/s suboxone I can tell you my experience. Throughout my years of addiction I have been on 2 different methadone clinics and one suboxone program. My experience with methadone was never positive. I always said it was trading a monkey for a grollia (sp?) because methadone IS much harder to get off of than heroin. The WDs last quite a bit longer. I also have always had the experience that methadone was just prolonging a relapse. Honestly I have never been clean when I was on methadone though. I still used heroin and other things. So my experience with methadone has not been good at all, but I was still living the life of an active addict while I was on it the first time. The seccond time not as much but I was still getting high (I kept the dose low so I could still get high- very stupid!).
Now, about my experiece with suboxone. I was on it for a little over a year. I started taking 3 eight mg pills a day. Then down to 2 eights a day. Then one. I was stuck on one for the longest time it seems! But throughout this whole time I was going to NA and changing my life wich is the key thing! So, from one pill I went to a half then to a quarter and then nothing. Mind you this was over a years time. But I haven't gotten high in almost 18 months, so I'd say go with suboxone for sure. I didn't have to go to a clinic everyday. Just once a month. with methone is was every morning which I hated. Subxone is much more expensive, however, and most of us don't have insurance. The WDs are so mild IF you dotox very slowly. I'm deff a believer in suboxone. Good luck to you!
2 Dec 2011
I was on methadone for a lifetime, the way it felt. If "being an addict" you can stop at the dose that works for you, never increasing aside from to be able to function, methadone will work for you.
! If you think you might up your dose more than you need you could join the group like me at 155mg/day before they stopped. Then ur screwed. If found the dr usually believes in Suboxone in order to get a special license.
I was on Suboxone trying to quit methadone. It is a god send with money or insurance. Up your dose before you give up. I took 4 a day and stopped without withdrawal after a year. Cravings bad but physically nothing. That's me. Methadone is last resort before dying in my opinion. Good luck
17 Sep 2009
I don't know anything about methadone, but, I am on suboxone and was in group with quite a few people who were on it also. I am not a doctor either, but, it sounds like you may need a dose adjustment. All of the people I went to group with attained lasting relief with it. Can you at least call the Doctor and talk to him/her about it and let them know you feel like you are still in withdrawal. There is a test called the COWS test and my doctor made me stay at his office and keep taking it to make sure I was completely comfortable. COWS stands for Clinical Opoid Withdrawal, something or other and it is somewhere on this site as well. It ranks your symptoms from 0 to 4 and if you reach 26 on the test, you usually need more suboxone. I am hoping your doctor gave you this test, if he/she did, keep retaking it and figure out how fast you are reaching 26 again. That will help them figure out what to do. Best of Luck and hoping you will get some relief somehow. Congrats on Making the best change for life.
22 Dec 2009
Chris- Both are very highly addictive. Suboxone is relatively new so many of the side effects have not been as widely communicated. It most definitely helps with the withdrawals, but you are switching from one addictive medication to the other. My advice is to check into a rehab that offers Librium treatment. This is used more with alcoholics, but it does help to relieve the withdrawal symptoms. Also, you would be under 24 medical supervision in the event that a medical emergency does arise from the withdrawals. (Yes, I know that only secondary withdrawals from opiates result in death). Best of luck to you, friend. I, too, fought that battle for sometime. My worst day sober is by far much better than my best day high. You are in my prayers.
17 Sep 2009
Hey chris79... I am one of those people that methadone did work for but I had to want it and make it work. I spent over 6yrs on it from my 10 yr battle with heroin and watched most people at the clinics fail. If I had to give you a peice of advice id tell you honestly to stay as far way from methadone as possible. Im on subutex now which I was able to make the switch from methadone and that works great for me. Id stay on the suboxone and try to get a higher dose. That might work. But I understand we all take different paths. Good luck
25 Jul 2012
hello, i too am on a taper from percocet 10/325, i thought about methadone and also subs, but dont want to jump from one opiate to the next. for fear of having to also taper off of that. with no support its very hard for me. i have no support at home, with work and a very demanding family and now caring for a 3 month old grandson, i cant get the rest that would help me with the withdrawls. i just hope this ride to hell stops real soon for me. and i hope that you find the best way for you to get off of these opiates. ive been on opiates for a broken jaw in 89, which the surgeon placed my bite back wrong so as the years went on my jaw got more and more tight and crooked, at times locking up and making cracking noises, in turn this all gave me massive heacdaches taking me to the er and on pain management. the only thing that will help this all is surgery which my insurance and almost all trys to say its cosmetic, which mines is from an old break giving me headaches.
and i dont have 9000$ lying around to pay for surgery. so yes i still have these headaches but am able to manage it with some ibu and ice packs and i sleep with a nite guard and use it during the day at home to help take the pressure off of my jaw muscle. now i take these pills just to keep the withdrawls away. im slowly gettng there but for me im always in a rush and its too slow. hopefully one day ill be on this site saying im finally off. take good care of yourself and in a good way be selfish, and put you first regardless of what anyone say or think, or youll be like me , just lingering and having the hardest time. goodluck, leanne
5 Oct 2009
Dear Chris..I see from your post it has been 2 weeks now and I hope and pray the suboxone is working better and your dose is adjusted. Please please stay away from methadone clinics! They are there to keep you comming back. Remember if you do not come back every day and pay you $14 $15 or whatever those people do not have a job. How can you ever have a decent life spending over $400 a month on methadone? With the sub you will wean off one day and the doctors normally have your best interest at heart. I hope the past 2 weeks have given you time to get your dos right & your head a lit'l better honey if not please talk to someone, if you got a little weak and went to the meth clinic please find a better doc for the sob and try again, there is a light at the end of the tunnel with that, only thousands of dollars and years of standing in line hooked w/methadone clinics.
Now dont get me wrong..I would rather see u at a meth clinic than on the street looking for heroine or oxy's but the furture for a real cure I believe is thru the subs & all the help you can get from friends family and if you believe (I DO) GOD. I will pray for all of you. Just DO NOT GIVE UP. DREAM ... YOU ARE SO WORTH A FUTURE!
25 Dec 2009
Just some personal input on my part, for anyone who decides to read this. I was originally on 12 milligrams of suboxone to replace taking six 10 milligrams lortabs daily. I was told this is what I should do by an outpatient clinic. I probably should have just taken a week or two off from work and detoxed, but, I was told this was best. The clinic folded after about 8 months,(I have been on it since april 29, 08) and no one really tried to get me to reduce my amount. I can't explain how I knew to do it on my own, it was just some physical sensations, that let me know that I could reduce my dose. I also went faithfully to my group meetings and still do. I am now only on 2 milligrams and decided to tell that at group. My counselor assured me that that meant my neurotransmitters were healing and that was the only explanation she had. There is hope of getting off of the suboxone and each person is different.
Some are saying that you should get off after only a few days, weeks or months. This is an issue that each person should discuss with their doctor and counselor and no one should scare anyone else about them needing to take it for more than a few days, weeks or months. If you want to get off of it eventually, talk to your doctor and counselor and do everything they tell you to do. For those who are not feeling like they are out of withdrawals on the dose they are on, LET THE DOCTOR KNOW. There are a few other meds they can add to help and the doctor needs to know if you think there is a problem. Don't give up hope.
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