waitingfo...Please do not judge me! I am bipolar with OCD and an addict. in the same week I started depakote and suboxone. (Subs for withdrawals and depakote for bipolar) I suddenly am having episodes of the craziest thoughts ever. When my son is being extremely difficult, something in my headtells me the devil possessed him so I will snap and kill myself! Omg! I know this is crazy and then I start crying because I'm so scared and then it goes away. What medicine is probably causing this? Depakote or suboxone? And can I stop taking the depakote immediately? I know I can't with the sub. But I am so scared. Someone help me please
Suboxone emergency! Very serious question!?
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- 16 Jan 2012 by waitingforsomelight
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- depakote, suboxone, mania, bipolar disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, withdrawal
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pattishan6116 Jan 2012
No one is going to judge you here, our community will back you up. Trust me on that, this is not a "bash addicts" site, but it isn 't a live chat either. Please be patient for more responses. I wish you had thought to list how much suboxone you are taking, that will help us answer, no one will judge you. It could be the one-two punch of both the meds. Please have someone sit with you while until you can call your dr tomorrow, first thing in the morning or if you feel you could harm yourself, or your child, get to the ER. I don't know that to be an effect of suboxone, but many people do have odd symptoms when they are in the adjustment phase, the first 2 weeks. If you were rx'ed 16 mgs or more a day, you may need to lower that, but you will have to contact the dr. When i first started suboxone, i was given 8 mgs then increased to 12.
LaurieShay16 Jan 2012
Dear waitingforsomelight,
I can't add much more than what patti has said. Just want to encourage you to remain calm and seek help immediately. Have your husband stay with you until you can get to the ER or get in touch with your doctor. I suspect that it is the Depakote, but can't be sure since both were started at the same time. You are on the initial dose of Depakote and could stop it BUT do not until you have sought medical attention.
We are here for you, will not judge you and will continue to pray for your safety,
Laurie
pattishan61
16 Jan 2012
Thank you Laurie, just sent you a pq addressing waiting, i was so worried. thank you!!! I see here she added she recently stopped zoloft, and that might have produced this i am guessing, but i hope she will call dr in the morning. Patti
waitingforsomelight
16 Jan 2012
I'm scared to go to the er. I don't want them to take my baby away. I don't know what to do :(... it seems like I can't catch a break in life. Thank you all. Kinda heartbreaking how complete strangers seem to care for me more then people I've known my entire life. Thank yu.
LaurieShay
Thor28316 Jan 2012
Hi Waitingforsomelight,
It's been a while since you posted, how are you now? Is your husband home and with you? Did you tell him what happened earlier, and what did he say? Will he be with you Monday or is he going to work and leaving you alone? It's not good for you to be alone. I want you to ask someone to come and stay with you. Is there someone you can ask?
I need to ask you a few questions. Do you get ideas like this often, that someone is possessed or that the devil wants you to do things? Have you ever tried to do what the voice in your head says for you to do? We are all worried about you over here. Listen to me, and not the voice in your head. We don't want you to die. We don't want you to hurt yourself. We care about you and we will help you. Just don't listen to what you hear in your head. OK? Can you tell me you won't hurt yourself? I'll feel better if you say that to me.
16 Jan 2012
Please make thwt call to your dr and please update us. I said some big prayers for you, hope you are feeling better today. When i was talking about the brqin chemicals, i wanted you to see that when those chemicals are altered in the brain, a whole myriad of symptoms can crop up. Many things we feel or perceive are affected by brain chemistry changes. For example, you know the feeling of Deja Vu, that you have been there before in the same predicament and you think you recognize what will happen next, well, when i had my cycle, i would notice thqt happening several times a day during the first 2 or 3 days of my cycle. That told me it is hormonally induced at leqst in part. I have had it at other times, but specifically during my cycle. Please let us know how you are today and whqt the drs says. If you really want a good second opinion on this, ask your pharmacist, they know way more than most drs about how meds effects us and all side effects. Patti
rvnew
16 Jan 2012
Good idea about asking a pharmacist. I never think about that, thanks for sharing!
rvnew
babyr0423
16 Jan 2012
Great answer pattishan. Ruth
babyr042316 Jan 2012
Dear waitingforsomelight,
Of course no one is going to judge you here. That's someone elses job..not ours. I want to try and stay as relaxed as you can. I've had severe, and let me say again severe paranoia in the past. It's been a few years, but I have. And the one thing that helped me the most and got me through it all was saying a prayer to our almighty father. He is the one who can help you through this time. I'm not saying you don't need to go to the ER. I'm not saying you don't need to go to the doctor. That's what God put them here for honey. To help us. That's what medicine is for. To help us. The right kind of medicine. But there is nothing, and I repeat nothing wrong with a good ole fashion prayer when you need one too. And I will be saying some for you waitingforsomelight. I will pray this will go away from you. I will pray for your child. Everything will be ok. Just relax. Listen to your heart, not the evil voices. Pray them away. I am here for you anytime. I hope you will get better soon, and God bless. Ruth
Anonymous 17 Jan 2012
waitingforsomelight, coming off of a narcotic pain med is no fun at all, some get withdrawls and some are lucky and get off pain free.if your having horrible thoughts please tell your dr, you could be having a bad reaction to it. dont be affraid to reach out. have you thought about going to therapy? are you on a taper and thats why your on subs? can you please give some more detail as to your situation? hang in there
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I take 4mg a day of sub. Its suppose to be 4mg three times a day but that's too much. And yes I have the sensory hallucinations but I only notice them when dosing off to sleep. My depakote is low too. Its 250mg twice a day. I would never harm my son... id harm myself before him. I feel awful even having to seek help.its embarassing. And I have no one to help me. I told my mother but she said to stop being dramatic and hung up. My husband is on his way home from work thank god. I'm just so worrid. Ithappend 4 times today. And each time, I strictly and honestly believed that my son was possessed! And the devil wanted me to kill myself. Omg I'm just so... ugh I'm just scared.
Oh btw I was on zoloftbefore depakote but now I'm not
Ok, did it seem to start when you started the suboxone, did you start both meds at the same time? I am so relieved your husband is on the way home. I am at my boyfriend's and his internet is flickering and very weak, if i disappear, it is because it won't let me post due to internet weak signal. Thank you for updating, there are several people i know of here who are pretty good with med side effects because of their jobs, LaurieShay, Pup6767 and Dzoobaby. rajive Goel and Maso are excellent as well. Not sure if any of them are on right now, but please stay here if you are scared, and i bet you are. Hang on, ok, and please promise me you will call dr in the morning, as what you are describing is NOT common on that low a dose of subs, not sure about the depakote or the combo. Thank you for updating. Patti
DearWFSL, stopping or changing an antidepressant can cause a lot of symptoms too, and i am thinking the cessation of the zoloft is having some effect also. I am super sensitive to antidepressants, i personally can only take the childrens size dose, or i feel manic and i am NOT bi-polar. I have never felt mania unless they were changing my antidepressant, and it almost sounds like it is the effect of stopping the zoloft, and strting 2 new meds that is casuing this, but i am NOT a dr. Trust Laurie alot more than me on this one. If you need us, someone should be on here most of the night, may not be Laurie or me, but someone will be here. People from all over the world post here, it is night where ibam, but day on the other side of the world, plus we have our nightowls who post. Just hang on, ok. Patti
Y was on zoloft for 4 yrs and I weaned myself off for a couple days but that's it. Also I started the sub and depakote the same day so I have no idea. I'm having a hard time. I don't wanna tell anyone because I'm scared they will take my son away and put me in a mental health hospital. But I'm even morescared to NOT tell anyone. Thank you for talking to me. I'm just havin so many issues. My husband I had so many issues, got pregnant, lost the baby, then seperated when I had a healthy baby finally, now we are together and so many issues, finances and ugh now that I'm not abusing tramadol, I feel like I'm finally dealing with all the emotions I numbed but its just all too much. Itfeels like a nervous break down. I know I make no sense but I'm just venting now. When we were seperated I had a job, I had my indepedence and now we are back together but I am so lonely in thi house by myself wth no one or nothing.
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There is no money there is nothing and getting clean and starting all these meds is just so much and sometimes I feel like its all too much and maybe god doesn't love me anymore or never did and I just get so tired ... I get tired of living and breathing and feeling... but I do it for my son and now I have these crazy thoughts about suicide and how my son hates me and he's possessed like wth?? I don't know what I did to deserve this... I'm sorry I'm just blabbering
God loves you dearly. He has not abandonned you. He never will. You are going through withdrawals from the Zoloft and possibly adverse reaction to the depakote. Please have your husband stay with you until you talk with the doctor. Don't be afraid of going to the hospital if that is what needs to happen. They will not take your son away from you for this type thing. You need to be strong and seek the help that is necessary right now so that this doesn't get worse and you are forced into medical care.
One reason i usually ask what meds were stopped or started is because of the side effects when meds are suddenly stopped, and you stopped 2 amd started 2 othere. Trwmwdol has ssnri qualities, so, you are likely suffering more thwn someone on plain opiates. And suddenly stopping the zoloft has got to be playing into this. When you talk to the dr, please have him refer you to an addiction therapist. I used one the whole time i was on suboxone and i believe it helped me be successful and my counselor caught my clinical depreession quickly and sent me to the dr to be treated. It was only later that i saw how much her care meant in my recovery. The counselor can help you deal with things past, present and future and i promise i also had financial difficulties, moved residences twice and changed jobs 4 times since 2007 and each time, my counselor was there and guided me, and slowly all things got better.
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Just know we are here, but we are not substitutes for licensed therapists, please get your dr to help you find one. I promise it will make a huge difference. It is actually supposed to be a requirement for anyone using suboxone that they see an addiction specialist and those wheo are successful in recovery do see them and cooperate with the therapist. Hope hubby is there now, please update us after you have talked to the dr tomorrow. All the meds you mentioned affect brain chemistry and you need your drs help too. Saying some prayers for you. Big ones,
Patti
well said pattishane, we are here to love and support and encourage, but unfortunately we do get some fakers, but its ok, i just block them, but all in all, we are here for you