i have found myself taking ten or more of these a day plus 8 hydrocodone pain pills a day... i want off these,but where do i even start... These pillls have ruined my life a little bit more each and every day... i hate myself and want off these... oh and by the way... these are all doctor prescribed,been on pain pills for 5yrs now and abusing soma's for past 6months... im so tired and just want my life back... i need help please!!!
Are soma muscle relaxers addictive?..Also been taking atleast 8 hydrocodone 10/500 a day with them?
- Posted:
- 18 Feb 2012 by tired.of.drugs
- Topics:
- soma, pain, hydrocodone, muscle
Responses (3)
18 Feb 2012
Yes Yes Yes!! I was told when I was taking them that they have some sort of barbiturates in them. Now I am taking methocarbamol for the last couple of days. The best way to stop them is very very gradually. And you must talk with your DR. He has to help with reducing what you are taking and replacing them with something more useful for your symptoms. But You MUST back off from them. They can hurt you very badly. Liver and kidneys especially with the Tylenol that's in those hydrocodone s. I was taking those until I found out the danger in Tylenol and told my new DR what I wanted to do. But I never reached the daily dosages that you are taking. One thing is clear you must take what your new Dr says. The reason I say new is cause of what you wrote your present Dr is not helping you. You can get your life back! And you will find the correct medications to help your symptoms. I hope for the best for you and you will find some really good people here, I have been helped many times with the support and compassion that they have shown me here. Plus really good advice.
B
18 Feb 2012
If you do decide to taper, it really is virtually painless if done very slowly. It takes a while to get to where you are, and it also takes a while to back out, letting the body to adjust to its original state.
The only difficulty with tapering would be the self control involved. Suboxone would be a great choice if that is the case. Another option for a replacement would be the leaves from the Kratom tree. Apparently many detox facilities utilize this as it is completely legal to purchase over the internet, has the same strength as hydrocodone, and while it is addictive just like other opioids, it however is from what I've read much easier to stop with relatively mild withdrawals. This plant is very effective with much of south east asia classified it as equal to a class one schedule drug here. The enforcement of this verges on being impossible as it is an extremely common tree native to much of asia.
Jeff, that was very interesting. That tree will go into my book of references. Some people that take Soma don't believe it is addictive at all, but oh yes it is! I would suggest especially if you are in pain, to taper one drug at a time. If you try to do both your pain will come back threefold. A good taper is 1/2 a pill for 5 to 7 days,. If you do ok with that then try to move up to 1 pill less for 7 days. If you start withdrawals go back to the half a pill for a week at a time. This is going to take some time. I would never suggest just stopping them all at once. I have had to do this with my pain meds for 3 days at a time required to get good test results, & wow, the withdrwals are horrible. After the tests were dont the doc gave me a shot of demeraol to make the 60 mile trip home from the university clinic. Good luck & I wish you well. Jeff, is this available in the States at a health food store or where do you get it...
You can easily purchase kratom in the usa by internet, not sure why,but it isn't generally sold at supplement and herbal stores. The only thing that I could think of is due to the dependence issue. That or there just might not be anything set up for retail. It might only be set up to sell to the customer for maximum profits, just a thought.
Jeff K
5 Jul 2012
I have found two way that helps. There are two programs one is the suboxen method, and the methadone clinic. Me personally the suboxen is the way to go its a opiate blocker so u can't take anything with it and it keeps u from being sick. we call it the wonder pill. It also makes u feel back to normal you don't get high or anything it puts your body back to normal. so try it there are doctors everywhere for it.
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Im sitting here crying right now... I know that im addicted... to soma's... hydros... and i have bn really struggling within myself the past 6months to kick this drug habit... my physical pain is almost gone... heck i can workout and hour a day at ease..so id say im ok... my deeper pain is my emotional pain... im dying inside,,, went through a horrible divorce 3yrs ago... and still have not bounced back... so i will be the first to say that i am masking the emotional pain... i am going bankrupt gettting the extra pills to support my habit... i just wana feel normal again... i wana know what a natural high feel likes... i wana be happy and confident without the pills... but how do i even begin to detox??? I am so dam scared... so alone... but i know that im gona die one day,soon that is if i dont let these pills go... anyone out there been in my shoes... i need help so desperately... PLEASE!!!
You are not alone. Not by a long shot and we are a strong support group here. All of us near about have been exactly where you are. Dependence on pills to mask pain is so normal for most of us. Our brains do have a system to relieve the pain we have. The neurotransmitters signal the receptor sites, then the brain trickles its on opiate. When we are injured, our brains can NOT keep up, so we are given opiates, and the body LOVES opiates. Most opiate dependents have lots in common too, we have parents or grandparents who had dependences as well. We had a rather ahem... lively discussion in my suboxone group about whether addiction is a disease and if it was inheritable. YES!!! To both. Our counselor defined disease as the conditon the body is in when it is not functioning properly, she said diseases are never really cured, they are put into remission. It can be a life long remission, or a short one. In the case of addiction, you really are the only one who can put it into remission.
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I am not an expert on tapering off soma, Bnagoh probably gave you the best advice on that, you do have to taper off. I never could taper off lortab or perc and honestly, wasn't taking them like many are, but decided suboxone was right for me. I did all the counseling and i was able to taper off that with no withdrawal and am fine. Suboxone might be good in your case to, if you want some info on that, let me know. It is NOT replacing one dependence with another if you taper off and do the counseling. You are not alone my friend, thank you for sharing your story. We are here if you need us. Patti
Thank you for your response... and i am definitely interested in suboxene, i just dont think that im strong enuf to tackle the withdrawals alone... i am a single mom... i work full time... go to college... i need help,i do not have time to be bed ridden and overwhelmed with withdrawal symptoms... i can make time for NA meetings... can i get this medication from my regular md (the doc that is prescribing these narcotics to me anyways)... i really am ready to take that first step in recovery... i already admit that i have a problem and i desperately need help... :-(
I am going to give you just a small amount of research to do. Go to the suboxone.com webpage, there is a here to help page, click that, then you should see a dr locator service. You will need a suboxone trained dr. If you will open the search parameters up to 100 miles of where you live, it will give you all the drs in that area who are specially licensed to write a suboxone rx. There are some fees associated with getting on it and these fees vary. It is called the induction fee and you will also need to find out how often the dr will require you to come in and also what that induction fee is. It is fairly normal for the dr not to take insurance for the induction or office visit, but there are some exceptions. I advised a young guy who was illegally taking subs to open that search parameter up, and he found a dr who only charges $5o to induct, most charge around $250, but it can be higher or lower.
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Some do take insurance and if you have insurance, it will likely pay for the suboxone. You might also ask about subutex, the sister med, it has a generic, and is cheaper. If you don't, ask your pharmacy if they will allow you to get 2 or 3 partial refills on the same rx, most will, but ask first. You will only have to be in withdrawal for 24 hours from your short acting opiates, to start subs. Yes, you have to be in withdrawal, but only for 24 hours. Within 20 to 45 minutes after your first dose, you will feel relief, at one hour out, eally good and at 2 hours out, better than you have in years. It takes about 2 full hours to get maximum relief, but you likely will be great at an nour and won't have to take more until the next day. If you cheat, and don't go into moderate withdrawal, a horrible form or withdrawal called precipitated withdrawal will occur, but if you do it correctly and stay opiate free for just 24 hours, you will do fine. If you need any surgery, even dental, get that out of the way before you start subs, as subs blocks other opiates. If you will go to youtube.com and look up SuboxDoc, watch his 2 part video on how it works to stop withdrawal and craving and how it works in the brain. I only recommend his videos on there tho. Let me know if you need more help. There is a toll free number on the subs homepage and you can also call them. Patti