Ok, I have been on the Suboxone for almost 2 weeks. (Because of an addiction to hydrocodone). This morning I took some hyrdocodone for a toothache (haven't taken the suboxone in over 24 hours). So the pain meds did nothing for my toothache and no high feeling from them. My question is now, since I've only been on the Subs for two weeks, can I take a Sub now without feeling the Percipitated Withdrawl? It has been one hour since I took the hydrocodone. And I feel that since I haven't been on the Subs long I should be ok. I take a total of 8mg/ day of Suboxone (for the past two weeks). Will I go into percipitated withdrawl, or will I be ok? And what are the symptoms of this withdrawl?
Anonymous Percipitated Withdrawl- Suboxone?
- Posted:
- 18 Jan 2011 by Anonymous
- Topics:
- suboxone, opiate dependence, opiate withdrawal, hydrocodone, addiction
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Added 18 Jan 2011:
Also, I have not taken any hydrocodone for two weeks (other than this am) which also leads me to believe I wont go into p. withdrawal. Am I correct?
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Anonymous 18 Jan 2011
Hi sparky,
The symptoms feel as if you will meet your maker!!! Vomitting, other tummy problems, horrible body aches, I could go on and on, yet will not.
Please wait for pattishan61 or christine to answer your Q.
If you go into prec. WD you are gonna feel like hell!!!
Be careful, and let us know how you are doing,
sweetlemon
chance4re...
christine...18 Jan 2011
YES! You need to wait!! Even though you had no reaction to the hydro, it's still in your system and resuming the subs may very well throw you in to precips! Be safe and wait at LEAST another 24 hours. The subs will still be working for another day or so even though you haven't dosed for 24 hours. Everyone is different but you really do need to wait.
Be safe,
chris
Anonymous 18 Jan 2011
Thank God you showed up chris!!! I figured sparky might go into precip, yet did not want to give wrong info.
Does suboxone stay in system for 5 days or am I wrong on that?
SL
christineATU
18 Jan 2011
What I remember from Patti (the expert here) is that once your receptor sites are saturated with the subs, you stop taking them, they can continue to work for a few days, holding back wd's.
But from what I read, not from Patti, when you take a vic, you can't take a sub for at least 48 hours. Regardless of whether the vic's worked or not.
Anonymous 18 Jan 2011
chris I accidentally gave ye the TD !!! Sorry my friend.
Lara
christineATU
18 Jan 2011
bummer. It was so funny you mentioned that. Well, not really. But up at kids house over Christmas, she got a new touch screen notepad, and I gave 3 thumbs down in a row! Darn thing was super sensitive. Had a few ooops! Sorry's myself! Don't worry about it...
mpvt
pattishan61
20 Jan 2011
Hey mpvt, where have you been. I sent you 2 pq's thanking you for your invaluable info of walking when trying to taper off subs, it totally worked and was wd free when I jumped. Thank you again. Patti
19 Jan 2011
Tough one.
Having gone through precipitated wd on Dec 28, 2010, I can tell you that I would rather have a tooth pulled with a plier. ALL of them.
And my PW didn't last a measly few hours... we're talking days of complete hell.
I agree that a vic is weak and that when the sub knocks the opiates off it won't be like coming off 300mg. Dear Lord... you want to die, but you don't.
If I were you, I would wait on the sub... for at least 12 hrs to be sure. If it was a 5mg vic, it shouldnt be too bad. If it was more... Wait longer. On the other hand, if you are in danger of a serious relapse, take the suboxone--you may not feel good, but it will scare you from dipping again.
hang in there. Really. I've come so close to taking that sliver of a oxy, but the thought of having to go through this again deters me. Every day. Multiple times a day. Right now. :) Don't beat yourself up over it. that would be the worse thing to do. Youre doing good. Keep telling yourself that.
Cathleen18619 Jan 2011
Forgive my question out there I'm still only 4 days into Drugs.com. and still learning. What is Percipitated WD? i know what regular wd is, how is percepitated wd different? is it worse? why? I'm taking Norcos right now but will be jumping to Suboxone soon and would like to know what i'll be up against. Thanks
readytobebetter
19 Jan 2011
No worries. I had very little knowledge about PW until I went through them. From what I understand, as opiates leave your receptors you begin to WD. Because of amount of use, half life, etc. this happens over the course of time.
The way sub works is that it fills up your opiate receptors so you stop wd and cravings. The problem occurs if you take the sub too soon after taking "normal" opiates. What happens is that the sub is like a big bad bully that literally knocks the residual opiates off the receptors very quickly and you go into full blown WD. No nature taking its course, just straight up no more opiates (sub is an opiate, but it's totally different animal) on the brain. VERY nasty.
Some people find that it lasts shorter than regular WD. I did not find that to be true. On the other hand, I have not had too many experiences with WD before this. Mild, a day or two sick before caving. This was totally different.
Cathleen186
19 Jan 2011
no, thanks for all that valuable info. I'm taking 3 Norco's every 4 hours. Been doing this since my surgery 3 weeks ago. I don't know if i can get another refill, i doubt it, so i'm guessing i'll be on the sub. i printed the COWS and will follow it. Been on Sub before the surgery. Went off it right away with no problems so I could take narcotics after my surgery. Do you think from your eexperience that my habit is bad? Moderate? mild? I have no idea. thanks
caringsonbj
pattishan6120 Jan 2011
Annonymous, I would wait a bit if I were you, at least 12 hours ( unless the pharmacist tells you different) and it is Methadone you have to wait 48 before getting on subs, not vics, sorry if I somehow didn't make that clear to my good friend Chris. I am getting old, I could have said vics, but usually only 24 hours without most opiates, 48 hours without methadone before starting subs. If the pharmacist doesn't answer your question for you, wait around 12 hours then take just 2 mgs. 2 hours after taking the 2 mgs, if you have no nausea, then you are probably good to take the rest of it. Most doctors will up your dose of subs if you get into a situation like this. If you have no nausea and feel fine on that 2 mgs, you should be good. The symptoms would be major nausea, feeling really really bad, withdrawal leg pain, restlessness, but mainly throwing up and nausea would be the signs vics still in system when you took subs too soon.
30 Aug 2011
I have been taking suboxone for 2 years now... I havent had a sub in 4 days... but 24 hours ago i tried my first dose of methadone to see if id go that route..I didnt like the whole high feeling, it defeats the purpose of me getting help... I want to take my sub today, remember its been 24 hours since methadone dose.Since it was my very first dose on Methadone ever, should I go through precipitated withdrawal?
Anonymous 31 Aug 2011
Hi rayjay8395,
You might want to post your own question, that way you'll get the attention you deserve and need!!
Best wishes,
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But I don't know IF this will make me go into pwd, thats my main question.
sparky,
I know that was your question, yet I can not tell you if you'll go into PWD, that is why I wrote to wait for chris or patti to answer. Try calling your pharmacist about your question if you are in need of an answer asap!!!
Let us know what is going on?
Lara
Good idea, I will call the pharm! Thanks, why didn't I think of that? lol
sparky,
You probably didn't think of it because you feel sh#tty? Or are terrified?
Please let us know what pharmacist says!!
SL
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