... appointment with the pain doctor already scheduled but in the meantime I was wondering if it would be a problem for me to take 4 or 6 at a time? I have got to get relief. The shot of toradol and decadron i got at the ER did little to touch this pain. Brought me down from a 10 to an 8, maybe!
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MorphoneG...14 Jul 2011
I would try taking 2, then 3 and see what that does or maybe take 2 every three hours rather than every 4-6 hrs. I completely understand where you're coming from. As a healthcare professional myself, I wouldn't try any more than 3 in one sitting, because the tylenol in them can cause severe liver damage. When you do see the pain management doc, talk to him about putting you on something that has no tylenol in it and further discuss your options. If anything, take the Tylenol 3's with a couple 200mg Ibprufen and see how that works.
I truly hope this helps and good luck!!
LaurieShay14 Jul 2011
Hey arewethereyet,
The tylenol in tylenol 3 is one limiting factor. The maximum tylenol to take at one time is 1000mg and 4000mg in 24 hours. Each pill of tylenol 3 contains 300mgs tylenol so the maximum you should take is 3 at any one time. Overdosing on the tylenol is damaging to the liver and kidneys.
The maximum recommended dose of codeine is 60mgs. Each tylenol 3 contain 30mgs of codeine. So I don't recommend taking more than 2 pills at one time.
I know you are in pain, but can't recommend you take more than 2 pills at one time. Can you try some other methods of pain relief such as applying heat or ice. I know this is minimal but might help.
Best wishes,
Laurie
caringsonbj14 Jul 2011
Arewethereyet
I know pain is pain but taking more than 2 tablets could be extremley dangerous, if you cannot tolerate the pain you might ask the Dr. if you could take 2 every 3 hours but NOT without talking to the doctor, Laurie is trying to be concerned about your liver also if you happen to get too much codeine after a shot of Toradol it might accidentally slow your respirations down, Far better to telephone a doctor because lets just say if you started using the Tylenol #3 like that you'd run through them like crazy, also you might try and push your appointment UP with your Pain doctor, Just want you to be safe if the pain is that bad once you use two Tylenol #3 (2) at a time you will build up a level in your blood, be sure and keep track of how much you're using, If it's so intollerable it would be far better to return to the emergency room than to do something that is not prescribed to take a big dose like that! Please try and understand we want the best for you!
Anonymous 16 Jul 2011
Caringson, just what I'm reading I think you are right. Von
arewethereyet
16 Jul 2011
This is the first prescription for pain medication that I have had written since September 2010. I have never bought pills on the street. This is the first episode of acute lumbar back pain that I have had in 2 1/2-3 years. Until this point my pain has been controlled with the Lyrica or Neurontin, Flexiril or Valium and Ibuprofen or Naproxen. I stay as far away from ER's and urgent care as much as possible. I admit I have a problem with pills, I am not sure when it started, but it's there. I have been through treatment for Borderline Personality Disorder, Major Depressive Disorder, Bulemia, and Substance abuse. If the pills and drugs aren't accessable to me, I won't take them, simple as that. I am not "drug seeking".
I just don't consider what I have done that much of a problem, and I am not sure why that is, since everyone else does seem to think it is a problem.
Anyways thank you guys. I appreciate you being real with me.
DzooBaby19 Jul 2011
You have YOUR tramadol, see you are counting the days do you for one minute think if the pain specialist has a brain in his head IF by some SAD reason he doesn't see RED once he see's you and hears your story then I can truthfully say he too has a problem, but you see the thought of loosing a vital organ such as a liver dosen't seem to phase you, You live from one pill to another, You need to lay out in the SUV because your body hurts and your brain and other organs crave OPIATES, it is possible to treat people who are sneeky and don't play by the rules, they have physicians who treat both opiate dependent and people who suffer pain as well, I am on here telling you this because things are only going to get worse, Have you ever wondered what you'll do when NO ONE will prescribe, I had a mail carrier addicted who came to my door at 3 a.m.
arewethereyet
21 Jul 2011
I am starting a prednisone 10 mg pack and I just took my first dose, 20 mg. I feel horrible. I am not used to taking prednisone. I was taking 5mg pack when I had the icky Ultram issue, which I subsequently had without the prednisone and was able to directly link to the Nuvigil. Anyways, Am I supposed to feel this crappy? I had gastric bypass surgery in 2006 and my gallbladder out in 2008. I have GERD but I take Dexilant for it. I am telling you this because the crummy feeling is similar to the reflux feeling I get if I miss my Dexilant or if I eat something I shouldn't and don't purge. My GP also told me the max dose on the Flexiril was 10 mg TID. I swear I have been prescribed I higher dose than that before, am I thinking of something else? Valium maybe?
caringsonbj
21 Jul 2011
YOU are still at it THINK serequel overdose discusses with therapist or psy it makes me wonder (you spend time reading this information) but I am not convinced you think about doing the right thing, you even discuss taking more Flexeril than you ought to be able to, these doc's are either disgusted and just let you call the shots or they are slow at learning that you follow whatever you think is best, Again I am not trying to be mean rude or even disgusted, it's downright the facts and I care and don't want to see you harm yourself, I hope the cortisone helps you but in the descriptions of meds you have taken whether it be by doctors orders or by doing it your way you are fortunate that anything helps you, One day it's going to catch up with you and you know that is sad because you are an individual that is worth far more than you think, otherwise why would you use things like weed and and many other things mentioned on here.
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the Ibuprofen and the tylenol and the codeine might just start you vomiting and it can cause problems with the stomach and even bleeding, so I just think I'd keep it like you are doing but please do Do it without maybe getting yourself into a bigger mess than you are in. I hate to see (or be) in horrific pain believe me I know what it's like I've had Polio
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If all else fails to give relief then you should go on back to the ER or Urgent Care. UC is less expensive if you have one nearby to utilize and they can do the same as ER for back pain probably with less wait time for you as well.
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I used to take my Flexeril 3 x day back when i took it. It IS a TENS unit by the way. Back pain stinks! I deal with it every day of my life too. I have been going through a bad flare the last couple of weeks myself! It is difficult when you cant find any relief and the idea of taking more medicine than you should is very seductive!! That is a road that leads to too many problems so it is best not traveled, no?
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