... quitting cold turkey tonight. I'm sick of this addiction. My question is I took my last dose at 11:30 a.m. today and need some advice asap of when I can take the suboxene. I was taking about 8 to 10 pain pills a day. I didn't know if my weight would affect the amount of suboxene I should take... I have the 8 mg strips and weigh 115 lbs. I already have to body aches and sweats but want to make sure I don't put myself through precipitated withdrawals. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I'm nervous and scared as I have never had an addiction but had so many medical problems up until my surgery 3 weeks ago that I became dependent on them. Thanks for listening
Opiate Withdrawal - Hi I'm new year and after six months of being on vicodin, lorcet, and norco I'm?
- 8 Jul 2011 by AmyKyn
- norco, vicodin, opiate withdrawal, withdrawal, addiction, opiate
Added 8 Jul 2011:
Also I live in a small town and am not under a docs supervision as I could not find one in this area.
8 Jul 2011
honestly, for your level of use and the amount of time you were on opiates, I would say the suboxone is really unnecessary, this is just my opinion and don't know all your circumstances, such as if you could take time off from work or if you are a parent with small kids who need you. If what you have listed is accurate as far as how many pain pills you were taking and the time frame is correct, you could use something called the Thomas recipe, and you can Google that under the Thomas recipe opiate withdrawal. It is a list of over the counter meds and supplements that would treat the symptoms and it also gives the journal of Thomas and how he felt during his journey off opiates.
There is some damage to the neurotransmitters in the brain when opiates are taken regularly enough to override the natural pain relieving system in the brain, and that system will have to reboot in order to start functioning again, but for your level of dependence, it would reboot fairly quickly, the first 3 or 4 days would be worst, but within a week to ten days, it should be rebooted and you would be fine. Now if you fear cravings and absolutely feel you need the suboxone because you have to be functioning at full capacity and can take no time off or have serious duties at home, do this, Google the clinical opiate withdrawal scale. It will take about 24 hours with no opiates in your system to hit a score of 26 on the COWS test and you need to wait at least 24 hours before starting the suboxone in order to prevent precip. You need to also take NO MORE THAN 2 MGS of that film, that should be 1/4 of it. You can NOT take the benzos listed in the Thomas recipe with subs or any other rx sedating meds such as muscle relaxers or rx sleep meds as it can combine with subs and slow or stop your breathing, and NO alcohol. I am not judging you here or trying to discourage you, I am a former subs patient and I hate to hear someone trying to use subs without a dr or addiction therapists help. It is not a magic medication that you can use just a few doses of to heal addiction/dependence to opiates, it is a tool to be used correctly and it is very powerful, it can produce some strong symptoms and even make you feel high or impaired at your level of opiate dependence. Look it up in Wikipedia.org to find out more about it. I hope you can take my first suggestion of the Thomas recipe instead of the subs. If you are determine to take it, please heed my advice, don't take it until at least 24 hours from your last opiate and take the COWS test, you Have To hit a 26 on that, even if it takes longer than 24 hours after last opiate. I know you are scared and uncomfortable and maybe not happy with my answer, but I have no reason to lie to you at all. Subs takes between 20 minutes and 45 minutes to give relief of withdrawal symptoms, at the 1 hour later mark, you will feel pretty good, and 2 hours later, you should have NO wd symptoms, it take 2 full hours to reach full.effect. I know you want to get better and stop the dependence, please seek an addiction therapist to help you or go to some AA meetings for support and of course you are welcome to stay here for support. While you are waiting, look up suboxone in Wikipedia.org and look on YouTube.com for SuboxDoc's 2 part video on how suboxone works. Please update us if you can, we do care around here. Pattishan61
8 Jul 2011
Pattishan is our resident Suboxone expert, and knows of what she speaks. I really hope you can find a doc that will work with you on addiction.
No judgement here at all, we have been where you are, and know exactly how it feels, opiate WD is hellish indeed.
As patti said, you have not been taking them very long, and if you can tough it out (I did it after almost ten years of prescribed opiates) with the Thomas Recipe, you will be quite pleased with the results. After the hell of WD is over you will have your life and soul back!
Let us know IF you can do the cold turkey route or not, and keep posting, this is a great place for support!
If you decide to use the subs, you will still have my full support.
8 Jul 2011
If you decide to continue with the Suboxone route here are some directions to read,
If you happen to want to taper off the pills and not take the suboxone, you can do that without much in the way of withdrawals. It will take time, but so won't being on Suboxone. If you are interested in tapering, I would be happy to help you. Good luck and keep in touch,
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