My Dr. said that subutex was primarily only prescribed & was given to women who were pregnant. I have compained of depression with suboxone - (having taken it for over 1. 5 yrs now. What is the real answer???
Opiate Dependence - What are advantages of subutex over suboxone?
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- 26 Jun 2009 by jimmorble777
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- suboxone, subutex, opiate dependence
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Robert_32527 Jun 2009
Subutex is pure buprenorphine and suboxone is buprenorphine with naloxone added. This is to keep IV drug users from injecting the medication. Some people do react adversely to the naloxone in suboxone. Neither medication is prescribed strictly for pregnant users. Your dr is WRONG.
Depression is most common if the dose is too high. You've also been on subs for longer than what is usually suggestted. It's most likely time to taper down and off the subs. You will probably feel better after being off the subs for a while.
You can reduce your dose by 25% every four days and you shouldn't have too difficult a time tapering down. Hope that helps.
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I've been taking Subutex for 5 months and I was prescribed Suboxone before that for about 2 years. I am closely monitered by an addictions specialist psychiatrist and I thankfully have not relasped with opiates since I started Suboxone. The reason I was switched to Subutex was because the Naloxone in Suboxone is harmful to the baby I will have in October. I am conflicted on what to do about weening off the medication in hopes that it would be healthy for the baby, and my doctor seems to think that it would be worse for the baby to take me off of it (since I've taken it for so long).
All I know is I'm sober, and I was a HEAVY IV-drug user. I lived through it and went to 8 different rehabs without ever being offered Suboxone or Subutex for anything other than a detox. I didn't know that this medicine could be used beneficially as a maintenence-type therepy until I tried to commit suicide and my psychiatrist at the Hospital offered to help.
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He was and remains against Methadone. I have never taken Methadone before, I think because I heard too many horror stories over the years that I kinda steered clear... (I had enough to deal with already *heroin*).
Basically, I don't want to tell u my life here, but I think I'd be dead if it weren't for this medicine. I think more people would feel that things aren't SO hopeless if they had an opportunity to know they are worth surviving this horrible addiction.
No matter how many 12 Step meetings, or support groups I went to, I would always relaspe. Whether it was the next day, or a year off... until I took Suboxone and saw my doctor.
Does the chemistry of the brain EVER return to normal after experienceing an addiction to opiates? I started on Oxys and went to snorting then IV dope. I feel for whoever is still out there in that lonely place...
You do have a choice. See professionals! Yes, AA/NA helps, but those people aren't doctors...
I will probably be helped off the meds. for the baby and resume only on an as needed basis (meaning if my doctor and I feel that I will be okay and not relapse I will not take anything) It's the next step for me I think... Subutex/Suboxone was the help I needed when I was in the bottomless pit, but I've been out of that place for a long time now. I'm ready and strong enough to stand on my own.
CSIcrystal, I applaude your recovery and hope all is well with you and your baby now. I too KNOW that had it not been for suboxone that I would be like so many others I knew personally that ended up in one of the two places that addiction ends up unless you seek help and that is death or Jail. Thank God and Suboxone I will be celebrating 4 years clean/sober this August 17th. It's not always been easy but I finally found out that it is possible with the correct help and willingness to change your lifestyle..I also agree that while I was deep in my addiction 4yrs ago I had been desperate for some way to get REAL help for my problem but would never consider Methadone cause I know people now that are more addicted to that than they ever was with other opiates.
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I spent 10yrs of my life getting addicted and now been sober for almost 4 but when you haven't worked for 4-5 years it's hard especially in a small town like where I live to find a job because once you ever get that label as a dope head it hurts for a long time even if your sober and have been for a long time now... I'm having trouble locating a career/Job I have received my associates degree and wouldn't care to go on further but I would like to get a job so I could marry my girlfriend that has been there for me through all of this mess... If anyone knows of a job/career anywhere in Kentucky,Tennesee,Indiana,Ohio area please let me know we would be willing to relocate... Thanks everyone so much for letting me get on my soapbox for a min and vent for a bit, sorry if i rambled. May God Bless you all.
What is your rationale behind Naltroxone deterring an IV Drug user? Both Subone and Subutex can be injected, just add water and no heat. The only difference this addict has found is a 5 day waiting period before any other Opiate will be felt if you are a regular Suboxone user.
Hi I'm new to this site and forum.
Robert I have been following your answers and support for quite some time now and now i need your insight. I have been shooting smack for close to 9 years now and have done the whole rehab /detox/long/short term/Na/AA thing and have had some clean time in between. I just came of one of my relapses twelve days ago. with the help of subutex/valium/zopiclone. But in all honesty i nearly got hooked on benzos also (I say nearly because ive stopped taking them a few days ago without any harsh benzo WDs) I did however also jump around from H to sub since Dec 09 but never on sub for more than 3 days. untill now that is. I started WDing from the smack as my usage escalated back to being worse than before (the whole progression thing)
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I got some Sub/valium/zopiclone to detox for real. i am now only on Subutex though. My problem is: I started on a very low dose of sub 13 days ago ten hours after my last fix and the transition was ok , the usual story of letting the body adapt to the sub was there. What i did was i took 2mg at night next 2mg in morning and stayed on 2mg for three days, then i decided to taper directly down to 1mg untill i was on 9 days then i decided to jump. Bad Idea, I started feeling it through the next day and by morning 2 i felt very uncomfortable, to my surprise i must admit, i thought i would do much better being on it short term at low doses, so i jumped back on to 1mg two days ago. I'm in two mind sets right now. stay on 1mg for a while, while i regain control of my life or jump off/taper and stand a great risk of going back to the smack.
I'm tired of that life though and i am suffering from a range of medical probs after getting infection on my heart valve last year. it is a matter of life and death because other than ODing i also stand a chance of reinfecting my heart and im told that I'll only have a 20% chance of making it if it happens again.
I really really REALLY dont want to go back into active addiction again, but I somehow feel I'm still on "something". . . . . . . . . But if i do decide to stop the sub how should i go about it? it hasnt been that long on it YET.
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hi guys, i been on suboxone for 8 months and i hafta say that suboxone saved my life. was on kadian but i couldn't eat or sleep.morbid insomnia makes u start to question your sanity.3 and a half years of that madness was more than i could stand.i was offered methadone but could not bring myself to taking it. in detox i was told about suboxone. never being up on the newest drugs out there for pain management left me limited in my choices. methadone scared the he'll out of me. seeing all the people on it at my pain management who had cancer. when the morphine stopped working i was so scared.not to mention in pain. today im on suboxone because of insurance and the clinic i go to. i know in the future im gone to make a choice to get new knees or not. but after two unsuccessful surgeries, on them im plain scared. so ill stay on subs till then. suboxone does help with my pain contrary to popular advice.doesn'tstop it all together, but makes it tolerable... thanks for letting my ramble on. i need all the help i can get.
hi, if u were a diabetic and had to take insulation would u stop taking it cause of pier pressure? if u were epileptic would u stop taking dilantin would u stop taking it if u had not had a seiziure in months? well then stop beating yourself up over what other people think,and handel your business. if you stop thinking of yourself as some junkie and start thinking of yourself as recovering addict,who takes a pill to live a normal life.if anyone tells you different,its there problem not yours...
my doc also told me it was mainly prescribed for women