... Heroin to Subs and now I'm trying to come clean completely. I have managed to get down to 1/2 of an 8mg tablet a day but worried about the withdrawal. Anybody out there know what I can expect? I have been an addict for about 10-15 years now and although the end is near I'm looking for some advice and support!!!
Opiate Dependence - Hello, first time in the group... long time user. I have gone from Vicodin to?
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- 2 Feb 2011 by panther298
- Topics:
- vicodin, opiate dependence, heroin, withdrawal, opiate
Answers (7)
2 Feb 2011
While I have not had experience with subs, I have tapered off several other narcotics with some success and some problems. I believe the key is to take it slowly. The slower you go the more time your body has to adjust to the changes and the less the side effects. You want to avoid the stomach pain and nausea and the like as much as possible.
Keep in touch with us here and you will get the support you need,
Laurie
2 Feb 2011
Laurie is a good person to give you advice and there is another person her name is Patti if I see her name I will try and give her your (panther296) and maybe you two can connect, I care very much and want the best for you, I have Chronic pain from Polio in the past and have some broken bones so I am not the best at what you need answers for but please know one thing I am here, can always listen, will always be honest, and will help in any way possible, I am going to click onto your name to make you a friend then all you have to di is when you see my name Caringsonbj is click on mine to make me a friend that way we can communicate in private if you ever need an ear to listen I am here just made the click to make you a friend so just remember you can count on me Billy is my first name my name on here is Caringsonbj best wishes!!
2 Feb 2011
Welcome Panther!!
I've no experience with heroin, but I did go cold turkey off of prescribed OxyContin that I took for almost 10 years.
In my opinion, tis similar to heroin, only legal and in pill form. (No offense to anyone on Oxy!!! )
There is a member here named pattishan61, and she has had great success with suboxone and has tapered off. She is happy and doing great! Soon, that will be your story as well.
I'll support you in any way I can. Fight the good fight. You shall regain your soul back, and that is exciting!
sweetlemon (Lara)
Panther,
I will call patti and tell her about your question, she should have access to a PC tonight.
sweetlemon
Just realized u basically gave the same answer... Patti. (LOL) Sorry:-)
2 Feb 2011
Hi Panther, I have not experienced subs yet, but am on methadone for lortab, percoset, etc. I know almst everything about methadone. When Pattishan logs on she is our resident sub expert. She successfully tapered off. So wait awhile and I am sure she will be on soon. Good luck. I will friend u and if I can ever help u in any way don't hesitate to ask. Just curious is your screen name Panther cause u r a Carolina Panther fan. Long shot but thought I would ask as I am a huge fan Lol... welcome to the group:-)
3 Feb 2011
Hi there panther, Sub is a very strong drug, remember, you can crush up an 8mg pill and divide the powder in to 4 equal piles. You can divide it up to micrograms. That's really the best way to taper down and eventually off. Many find jumping at 2mg, even 1mg is too hard. With sub, a little bit can do the trick. It also lasts quite a while. So when the time comes, you can start skipping days. There's a good taper plan on Patti's profile page. You can click on "find a member" and type in Pattishan61 and read her info. She has the best plan I've seen for tapering the subs. Best of luck to you and please let us know how you're doing!
chris
6 Feb 2011
So sorry I just saw this, have been sick and also without a pc. If you taper off the suboxone slowly, you really should be ok and not have withdrawal. You may have some anxiety or depression, and that is also caused by the fear of the unknown when tapering off subs. See if your subs doctor will prescribe an anti depressant if you seem to be getting depressed. I can NOT stress enough how much I feel that the walking for exercise that I did while tapering off subs helped. Start slowly so you won't get sore and quit. Increase your support system and stay as busy as you can. I stayed at each taper for 4 weeks. Yes, I know Robert has a quicker taper, my counselor said to stay a taper point for 4 weeks to adjust fully before going down again. This worked well for me. I think if someone has not been on subs long or was never on a high dose, the fast taper might work, but I know I was a bit too frightened to do it as quickly as i read to do it in the quick taper.
7 Feb 2011
Hello, I'm new to this website and I'm also on subs. I used to do 2-4 grams of heroin each day if I could get my hands on that much. Or pretty much anything else that was available. I have been on suboxone for over a year now, although I didn't take it serious for the first 6 months I was stupid and still used but I'm 7 months clean. Like you, I have also managed to cut myself down. I started off taking four 8mg/2mg pills a day and I am now down to 1/4 of a strip and I try to take it every other day. How long have you been on Suboxone? Also if you can I highly recommend switching to suboxone strips. They dissolve in seconds and kick in after 5 mins. Ask your doctor he/she should give you a coupon they are so much better than the pills.
skevauver,
Great info, and full of hope for people that are struggling!!
sweetlemon
Thank you so much :) I have a lot of respect for everyone who shares their struggles and all the people who try to help and encourage. I know how important that is to have and everyone deserves some support. I just barely signed up because I need something like this in my life and I already feel better so thank you! If I can help even one person that alone means the world to me.
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Thanks Laurie!!! and to all of you that have posted.
You are very welcome panther. I hope you have had a chance to check out pattihan61 profile for the tapering off sub plan. I'm going to check out myself.
You are not alone in this and please keep in touch, we will support you,
Feel free to contact me, I'll friend you tonight so you can private chat if you wish,
Laurie
I never went to any rehab, just meetings. If I had it all over to do again, and my problems were not as heavy as yours. - I would definitely check in to a detox center, because, - I don't now about you, I just now about me - my style of tapering down is a frikken yo-yo thing, lik one step forward, then two steps back. One day I am doing good, but then when I leave the house my impulse center takes me places I swore I wouldn't go.
But that is my experience. I just barricade, but it is all dashed when I get behind the wheel.. If I ever get trapped again -I'd go to rehab.