... shopping. He was perscribed massive amounts of Oxicotin and xanax among other meds. How can these pain management doctors get away with this. What can be done about this problem. I am so angry I don't know where to turn. Please help me if you can. Thanks!
7 Nov 2011
My prayers go out to you , I am so sorry for your loss, so many times, lawyers will not even touch a case such as this, if your son was of the legal age to "doctor shop" and able to receive the medications he was addicted to. Not to mention, Doctors will stand side by side, and block you from going any further than putting the blame on your son. Sad say you are not the first mom to have gone through this, or father for that matter, speak out though, let your concerns be known, with the computer age now in effect, I'm truly surprised some pharmacist didn't catch this either. Addiction is an awful disease to control, and sadly your son fell victim to this terrible problem we deal with daily.
I'm sure you had a wonderful son whom you Loved Dearly, my heart goes out to you. I just wish I had something of more comfort to add to this comment. I'm hoping someone here has more knowledge in this area that may lead you in the correct direction. I pray he is now at peace and sitting with angels looking down at you and your family. My heart aches whenever I hear these stories, please know you can friend me anytime you want even if it's just to chat and get things off your mind for now. God Bless my dear, may peace come soon for you. midwestma
1 Nov 2011
Oh Sweety... im so sorry about ur son..i wish i had magic words that would help u but nothing said will help..i know ur angry me too... but just for now..morn pray find his baby pictures wrap urself in one of his favorite shirts and remember him... deal with ur loss for now..in time im sure u will get done what needs to be done..God bless u and praying for u..sincerely Crazed50
1 Nov 2011
My dear dear woman, sherwhee... wow... I am so so very very sorry to hear of the loss of your son. I cannot even begin to imagine the pain in which you are enduring. Your son's spirit is now free of whatever dark forces were causing him to take all of those drugs prescribed to him. Yes, pill mills are the culprit as far as the ease of access to the drugs. I do not know in what state you are located, but all sates, with the exception of 13 of them have Prescription Drug Monitoring Plans (PDMPs). This private non-government program monitors controlled substances, i.e., strong prescriptions from the time they r dispensed, who dispenses them, what doc writes the script, etc. These programs will strongly curtail doctor shopping. So, Sher... I do not know if u are n one of those 13 states who do not have one of those programs??? Even in states where there ARE the PDMPs there are still those who slip thru the cracks... IF your son was getting some of his drugs off the streets...
who knows what he was really getting.
I KNOW that none of the above will bring your son back and it is doubtful at this point if it even registered with you... sorry I digressed.
Time is the great healer in grieving over a loss. I hope that you have gotten connected with some type of support group where you and perhaps others who KNOW what you are truly going through... kindred spirits... of sorts may be able to comfort one another.
I wish there were something I could do or say to help ease your pain. Try to remember your son's sweet spirit before being kidnapped by these very evil drugs. Your pain will ease over time. Perhaps, as someone here suggested, you could possibly get involved with your state's legislators to develop a PDMP, if not already established. Please come back here anytime, ANYTIME that you need comfort and support. Someone will always be here.
Again, sherwhee, please accept my deepest condolences in the loss of your son. I will most certainly keep you and your family in my prayers so that you may find some type of comfort in this most difficult time.
May God Bless you and keep you...
16 Mar 2012
I hate your loss and there are no words that can make it ant easyer.I don't know were you live but im in east texas.I take the same pills and I get drug tested at any time.My friend went to a New pain doctor a couple of weeks ago.I took him back last week and there was a PA there and he told my friend that doctor he had will not throw drugs out.But I could not beleave the PA got him set up with another who will give you what ever you ask for.Im in worse shape than he is in.Its doctors who help kill people.I have been in so much pain I took more than i should have and thought I was going to stop breathing.I still beleave the doctors get a kickback .!800 for 1 bottle.I would get the cops involed and have them send a undercover cop to were your son went to get his pills,and I bet it was more than 1 office.The dirty docs dont stay in one spot long.If you live close I will do it I have offered before to do it.If your son was in severe pain I have walked that same line and it will ...
consume your mind.This maybe a calling for you to something to maybe save a life or keep another parent from going threw this.Your calling
1 Nov 2011
I have no idea what to advise you to do,but you got some great advice from the other guys here already.
I just wanted to say how sorry i am for you losing your son,i cant imagine what you and his dad must be going through,my deepest sympathies to you and your family!
7 Nov 2011
For some reason, I am just know receiving your question. Please accept my deepest sympathy for the loss of you stepson.It just doesn't get any harder than that. A child even an adult child is suppose to outlive the parent. I have had this tradgedy in my own family but from a rare disease, not an overdose. Once you have come to terms with your grief, you must realize that your son did this to himself by doing what is called doctor shopping. Giving each doctor a trumped up story about how & why he apparenbtly needed such massive does of pain meds. It is a sad day for all involved & I am sure if these doctors all of them, are aware of what has happened to him. have looked at their prescribing & will take a different avenue from now on. Sometimes we have to look at where the blame started, & that is with your son as he was the one doctor shopping & getting all of these meds to take.
The most the doctors & the FDA are concerned about at this time is not only the doctor shopping, but the selling of the prescription drugs on the street. This also puts their license on the line. Without calling every other doctor in your entire area, which must be quite large for this to happen, they have not another way to find out about his doctor shopping as it is called. If your pharmacies are not in the MAP group which a lot of states aren't, just each individual name store, like CVS, Walgreens, etc... can pull records from another store from anywhere in the country. This is how they find out about this, but some states they cannot pull from different names of pharmacies. I am sure he knew this too & was using several different pharmacies to get his prescriptions. This is a total shame that has has happened. But was does happen if suits are filed, it makes it very difficult for people like myself who have to rely on Pain Management doctors to prescribe perscription drugs for the rest of my life. The FDA is in the process of making it harder for this to happen(doctor shopping,) if there is any solace in that for you, but has also scared some doctors into not writing pain med scripts for ANYONE, & thousnds upon thousands of us need those drugs to lead a normal every day life. I also believe that you must come to terms about your sons addiction. If you knew about this before his death, & come on Mom, I know you had to have had a inkling that he had a drug problem, someone should have stepped in a long time ago & tried to help him! He has to take the responsibility himself albeit his has passed. These were his choices, & I firmly believe that most of the blame lies in himself for doing this to his body, & no one apparently stepped in to help. I am sure you had tried as any good parent would, & at 31 he made his own choices. He thought he knew what he was doing.Again, I am deeply sorry for your loss, & hope you can find it in your heart to put the blame as hard as it is, in the correct place. It's so hard to believe that one of our own can have a problem so big, & we feel so helpless in trying to help them beccxuase we either didn't know about all of it or did, but him being an adult tells us "hey, I am an adult here, & can make my own decisions." "If I fail I have no one to blame but myself". I am almost sure you were told that when you tried to intercede. I have a son who also does some drugs, but notheing as you have stated. The doctors around our 5 city area know him & about his inpatient detox etc, etc, etc... & now can get no medical help for a back condition that he actually NEEDS pain pills. As an inpatient of drug counselling his back surgeon ordered Vicodin for his back pain as he had just had a fusion in his lower spine because of genetic spina bifida.Unbeleivable, but necessary. Now 2 years later when he has a pain attact he has to buy off the strert which is so dangerous. because the surgeon or pain management doctor have already told him they cannot write for someone who has gone thru detox & so forth. It's a terrible mess. I have strong pain meds & he told me he tought about asking me for a few for a few days, but he knows my script is for 28 days, & then I have to call the center to get another one. In our area they have taken great steps to protect themselves & the patients more so than necessary. My old Pain management doctor won't even write pain scripts for the people that need it anymore because of the new FDA regulation concerning writing for pain meds.I need those pain pills to function or I would be totally bed ridden. So I have to blame people like your son & the ones who abuse it & sell them on the street for extra cash! Do you see where I am coming from? My personal physican got on his phone & called every doctor in our are which is quite large, that would wirte me scripts for my medicine so I can function as a half way normal human being, & not be bed ridden. This is where the problem lies. If your son convinced enough doctors that his pain was so severe, this is why they would write him scripts. I believe the FDA has really cracked down on doctors to have them scared out of there wits! Now this has just happened in the past year, so your son being a pain clinic patient, fell thru the cracks so of to speak. I guess what I am trying to say, is yes, you have the right to sue, because apparently your son was devious enough to trick a bunch of doctors into prescribing too many pain pills for a condition he either didn't have , or did have , but wasn't having the kind of pain he was describing to them. They were doing their job of trying to help him unaware he was getting & doing this same thing all over town! Please consider all the facts here before you jump to any conclusions or placing blame on doctors that ARE trying to help me & others like me that are in severe pain everyday of our lives.If the laws get anymore stringent than they already are today at this time, I might as well OD myself because if I cannot get pain meds to let me function each day, I do not want to live & neither would almost everyone on this site. I am trying to speak for us that are in great need. Please consider for a moment where the REAL blame is which I believe is on your son, & I am so sorry to have to say that to you, but you know in your heart that this is so true. Again, my heart goes out to you for your loss my friend , if I may call you a friend. Take care, & maybe go to some NA meetings for awhile to learn how drug addicts & their families are coping with this problem. Get involed with helping others so this doesn't happen to others like your son. I believe in my whole heart that this would be a great healing part for your heart. Sincerly & with my best wishes for your grieving heart...
2 Nov 2011
Hi J.K and i am soooo sorry about your son, oh dear God i am so sorry!! Please feel free to ask for any help or if you need anything, i lost my best friend to a oxcy over dose 1 yr ago. I will pray for you and family my friend hearing this brings tears to my eyes as i write this msg a mom shoul never have to barrie there son! I lost my lil brother a few yrs back and my mother has never been the same! not trying to make you more upset or down but i kinda know where your comming from.. I am so sorry and this should never have happend.. much love and prayers!! God Bless Hun.. Mickey from chicago..
1 Nov 2011
There are simply no words to address this sadness and such a terrible end to your loved one, and too short of a life. We are never supposed to outlive our children, and when things happen out of balance like this, it is just ... wrong.
It just isn't supposed to be that way.
I truly am SO very sorry for you and your husband. Please know there are many people here that you may talk to and with. We truly do care here and have great compassion and big shoulders to lean on!
Please post, post post... as this may help you. And WE will help any way that we can!
God bless you and your family, Sherwhee,
1 Nov 2011
Sherwhee, the place to start is to contact your state's Board of Medical Examiners and file a complaint against the Dr who was prescribing 480 80mg OxyContins. If one Dr was giving this many pills per month then that is irresponsible prescribing. If he was getting this amount from duping several different Drs, then there is not much you can do. A Dr has to trust that his patient is being honest with him too. If the patient is lying to multiple Drs to obtain meds then it is more a fault with the patient. The Drs were only trying to help him although there could have been some checks and balances that perhaps should have been caught. If they had tested for the presence of drugs and he was getting the same drugs from multiple sources it wouldnt show, if the were testing for presence only. Had they tested drug levels then they may have found that his levels were too high and questioned that.
It is terrible that a man so young died this way and my heart and prayers go out to you and your family. I would start by contacting BoMEX (Board of Medical Examiners) to find out if his pain Dr was truly prescribing him those quantities and have him investigated.
9 Nov 2011
Hi Sherwhee, I am sorry i haven't been able to get back to you , i saw that you buried your son and that is with sad regrets. Someday i hope the sun will shine upon you both once again. Maybe once you are feeling better a support group for parents who have lost their kids might help. I am sorry i am just at a lose for words for the both of you. Please keep in touch if you want Leron
10 Mar 2012
I hope u have found "peace" if there is such a thing, while learning to live without ur child... I lost my only sibling and other family member to the samething... it is heart-wrenching that some doctors are so passive and wreckless! They are as much to blame as the abuser! It is the responsibility of the doctors to make sure the person they are treating is not abusing or selling their medication(s).. I have been a pain mang patient for a # of yrs due to suffering from RSD, my PM doctor is an hr 1 way drive, but he's so worth it! He does regular & random pill counts, urine test and blood level screenings... I don't mind these extras infact ALL DOCTORS SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO SO! We are living in the time of an epidimic... the goverment regulates so many dumb things, when will they step up on this???
My heart is with u & ur family... I will keep u in my prayers as I continue on my journy to get such an enactment to be enforced throughout the US.
1 Nov 2011
I am so so sorry for your loss. I don't even know what to say other than my prayers will be with you. You're absolutely correct in that something needs to be done in regards to the problem that this country is facing. I am so sorry that your son fell victim to this epidemic. I know that the government is in the works of trying to correct this problem as the original solution proposed wasn't seen as a measure substantial enough to address this problem, and it really wasn't. It however has now has been months since that had been announced, and is a total tragedy that due to government and it's snail like speedy movements weren't able to move quickly enough. The fact that information regarding scheduled drugs are not linked up properly across state boarders has made obtaining multiple prescriptions way way too easy.
It is totally unacceptable and is an example of government not doing its job, especially when there are so many lives that have already been taken, an epidemic that is now several years old. Once again, I'm so sorry for your loss,
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