... breakthrough disc and nerve pain duirng the day instead of the 6 Norco daily I had been on for 5 years. Could I be experiencing increased pain due to withdrawal from Norco even though I'm taking all these other opiate pills? I don't know how to sort this out. Help please! Astrid311
My new doc has me on morning and night hydromorphone caps and diludid tabs for?
- Posted:
- 11 Oct 2010 by Astrid311
- Topics:
- norco, pain, neuralgia, hydromorphone, withdrawal
Responses (3)
11 Oct 2010
First of all, it would totally depend on how many mg of norco you were taking, as it comes in many different pill types, also, would depend on how much of the other opioids you are taking as well to see if there is an equal conversion. Regardless, Norco really shouldn't be taken long term as it contains tylenol, and will eventually lead to a ruined liver, even if it is the lowest amount of acetaminophen (tylenol) out of the hydrocodone + acetaminophen family. Hydromorphone / Dilaudid (same thing) contains no tylenol like substance in it, and therefore is much much safer to be taken on a long term basis. Not only that, but it is also considerably stronger than the Norco 16.67mg of hydrocodone to equal 2mg of Hydromorphone, which is equal to 10mg Methadone. Info found at the link shown bellow.
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opiate_comparison )
13 Oct 2010
Wow I came to ask a question about equivalent doses of Dilaudid to Norco and here you are! I was just prescribed Dilaudid as I decided to go down from fentanyl 25 (only took 25 for a month) back to 12 as I would rather control my additional meds for breakthrough- the fentanyl hammered me constantly- way too much to take every day for me.
I have been given 2mg dlaudid and usually take a Norco 10 as needed. I swear I hardly feel the dilaudid. I thought perhaps 2mg isn't as strong as a Norco 10, but the llnk given says otherwise. It makes no sense to me that this supposedly stronger med is barely discernable to me!
I am also aware that I could be experiencing underlying withdrawal from the lowering of the fentanyl dose- and perhaps the dilaudid is actually keeping that at bay.
At least the dilaudid does not keep me awake the way the Norco did/
Well, for whatever its worth, although my experience with benzos is a totally different drug class of drugs, there may be a similar action at play. I tried going from 3mg of Klonopin over to 4mg of Xanax XR (2mg XR taken twice a day as it only lasts 12hrs). The vast majority of sites will say that they work in equal strength, nonetheless, the Xanax didn't controle any of my anxiety issues, and had to go back onto the Klonopin. It really felt like I was taking less than half my normal Klonopin. They are two different drugs, that I apparently responded much better to one vs. the other, likely due to the length of time on the Klonopin (three years) and my body's adjustment and expectation of effects not being met.
Same here with the diludid. After I posted, a doctor also said it was "quite a potent drug." It isn't working for me as well as Norco. You had trouble sleeping on Norco? Hmm. I always thought my sleep problems were due to the fact that I took my max all during my waking hours for best quality of life and then was experiencing withdrawal at night, hence the sleeplessness. The same thing for you? My daily dose was 6 10/325.
7 Jan 2011
This website edited out part of your question or perhaps since I am new to this site I missed where I can read your entire question. However Google picked up on a phrase "Spirit Guide Demetrius" that brought me here. Did you indeed mention this guide? If so would be curious to know more of what you know of this guide. I have spoken to him during an hypnosis session with a friend who while under had this guide speak to me. Be curious to compare notes. It was an amazing experience for both of us.
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Thanks for the thoughtful and knowledgeable comments. Why is it, I wonder, that I'm not getting the same kind of relief from the (stronger) diludid? I have been prescribed 1-3 4mg tabs when needed and 3 at a time aren't providing the same quality of relief. I appreciate the table of equivalences too. Do you happen to know if withdrawal time is influenced by the length of time one was taking hydrocodone? Again, thanks.
Hello, My gut feel is that you're getting hooked on one , maby 2 of all those drugs you mention. I don't have a colledge degree in Meds. & drugs so I really shouldn't express an opinion, but I DO have a razor sharp gut instinct, plus much help from my Spirit guide Demetrius., and it's It's pretty hard to top that. Sometimes however, the human idiot in me takes over ! ! ! Sacosam(;->) I'm learning... that A SMILE CAN CURE ALL PROBLEMS... and God help my teacher "who's already making funny mouth noises"! ! "lol"!
I know a couple of other people that say that norco helps thier pain better then the dilaudid, even tho they say dilaudid is stronger. Now I have been on both not at the same time. I was on Norco 10/325 every 4-6 hours prn. Then moved up to 15/325 4-6 hours prn. Then due to liver enzymes riseing they changed me to dilaudid 4mg every 4 hours prn. The dilaudid seems to work better for me. So I'm thinking everybodies body chemistry is different. Like I said I know a couple of people that norco seems to work better for.