I have just recently gotten back on the methadone program for treatment of my heroin addiction. I've been hearing bits and pieces of info about suboxone. I am wondering if suboxone may be a better form of treatment than methadone??? I have weaned down and gotten off of methadone before and the withdrawal from it was pretty bad (i stopped taking it at about 10mls). I've never taken suboxone and don't even really know what it is but if the withdrawal from it is any better than what I went through and am going to go through again with methadone... i'm game!!!
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pattishan6126 Jul 2011
It can be much better however the switch from methadone to subutex first then to suboxone is the trickiest there is, you must taper to 30 mgs of less of methadone and then wait 72 hours methadone free before being switched to subutex and the possibly go on suboxone of you will go into a horrible form of withdrawal known as precipitated withdrawal. Many clinics and suboxone drs are not doing the switch correctly and are putting people into precipitated withdrawal by doing the switch wrong. Not try to scare of dissuade you, just make sure it is done correctly.
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amadeous1 Aug 2011
Methadone I believe should be used for Heroin, Highdose Oxycontin, Morphine or some other longer-acting opioids addicts. Suboxen is too new and seems too weird a drug to be just putting people on it. The Suboxen seems help those that are addicted to Oxycodone, Hydrocodone, or a Codiene, the little Opioids. And what if you've been on Valium or Xanax for years? They can't put you on both due to severe side effects & death. And they can't just take you off any Benzodiazepine that's been used for long periods, the withdrawls from those can kill you.
oktoday
9 Aug 2011
Buphrenorphine the agonist/antagonist in subs has been in use ten years. Look up buprenex. I took it back in 2001 when u had to self inject it im it first came out around 1979 when they were investigating it for depression. Look it up you will be surprised.also patti knows her stuff.
amadeous
12 Aug 2011
K thanks I sure will!
2 Aug 2011
I have been addicted to opiates for 6 years. Did methadone and suboxone, and to be honest the withdrawal is all the same. You don't have to go to a clinic to get suboxone, but you do have to be strong in wanting to stay clean, it's hard, but seems to me it's a never ending cycle no matter what you choose. Suboxone is however a lifetime maintence medication, the doctor's I've seen won't try to ween you off if you tell them you need to be on it. Good luck!
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Good advice. I missed you Patti I hope all is well.
Much better now that you're back. I just changed jobs and for the better. Thanks Bootzilla, have thought of you often. So glad you showed back up, how about you?
OMG IS THAT YOU BOOTER??? Where did ye disappear to pal???
Lara (sweet lemon) we miss ya bootzilla !!!
Booter Welcome Back... can´t believe it´s you... great pal!!!
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Are ye feeling any better my amigo???
I am actually on the mend, almost human again.
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Hello all, i've always been interested in the success of buprenorphine opioid maintenance therapy, mainly because it sounds so good. I was wondering what the euphoric effect(if any) is like? I know that it is supposed to prevent cravings all the while not creating a euphoria... but it has always made me slightly nervous because the drug is relatively new to the addiction treatment field.
Hi EHH,
From what I've gleaned from this site and from our pattishan61 (she is our resident Sub expert) it is NOT supposed to create any sort of euphoria if taken properly. I've read that it heals the brain's opiate receptors and therefore is a good choice as opposed to methadone. Not juding anyone on methadone atall, just thinking it may be easier to withdraw from.
Best wishes,
To EHH, it is not supposed to give a person a euphoric feeling, but it did it to me at first. I was recently addicted at that point to opiates and had just gone to between 4 and 6 lortab 10's or percs, the next lowest dose of opiates taken by the members of my subs support group was 30 tablets of lortab or percs per day. Many subs drs give 16 mgs per day to start, I probably should have been started on 2 or 4 mgs, I was started on 8mgs, and the second day, about 2 hours after I took it, I was high as a kite and called my subs dr, he told me to take another tablet, I refused, and the next day, took half an 8mg tablet that morning and half that afternoon and was fine. it is possible to feel euphoria, but that is usually an indication you are on too high a dose.
I wish I had more advice but Patti said it all she truly is a expert and also cares, she is a good person to friend and can be alot of support. Most DR. are clueless and dont care (except about your $). But there are some good DR. out there. So I apologize to them. But patti ans sweetlemon are great.
Intravenous drug users have been stable at 2mg. Suboxone is the best way to go to become opiate free. It is an opiate but much less painful to taper off of. go see this link it might save your life.
http://www.drugs.com/forum/featured-drugs/suboxone-subutex-therapy-50887.html