If you use an opiate while on buprenorhine will you still feel the effects of the opiate?

Hey Ruby,

I'm with lady from TO here. I don't know exactly what you're saying. And lady from TO made me realize if you are in a country other than the USA, things may be very different, and some of what I say would be meaningless, because of different laws.

If you are saying what I think, you are quite simply in very bad withdrawal. Part of withdrawal is feeling crazy. Crying etc. I'll say Heroin is no answer. Heroin will totally destroy your life and probably kill you.

I bet you would do very well on Sub maintenance. You sound like you have the addiction disease. The Bupe in Sub holds that disease at bay. It makes you feel normal. But you have to make a commitment to stay on Sub, and Sub only. You can't play with Heroin while on Sub, like you can on Methadone.

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So that's my last idea for you. Go on Methadone. Until they bring you to a very high dose, you can still play with smack. But I'm being somewhat sarcastic here. While you play with smack it just may kill you.

Look Ruby, you came here, you probably want help. Many of us can help you. But be real with us. Tell us what's happening. Or you may soon reside in a box.

Hey Ruby,

R just said something very important and true here. You have to want Sub to work. If in your mind you continue to want the high, and will not be satisfied with just feeling normal, then it won't work.

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But upon reading your comment above, it sounds like Sub is just too expensive. I don't know what Suboxone costs because I take Subutex. And there are some problems for some of us with the generics. If I needed Name Brand Subutex it would be close to $500 a month. If I had to use $500 a month on Subutex I would have to do without many other things but I would have to do it, somehow. Similar to what you are saying, I have always needed some kind of drug to feel OK. However, opiates only worked for short times. So mostly I used other drugs. But none of them were all that successful. Then I was put on Sub and I hated it for many months. Then it dawned on me that I finally feel OK for the first time in my life since I was a small child. As if to prove this, 2 years ago I was taken off Sub and put back on short acting opiates. I had a great doc who let me have mostly Oxycodone which was the opiate I liked best. But after 6 months off Sub I became very depressed again. I even lost a few friends because all I did was talk about suicide. Do you do that too? This was typical with me. Opiates only helped for short periods. My doc retired and I was forced into withdrawal. I attempted to stay with nothing but couldn't do it. Too much pain, wds, and the depression was back full force. I finally came back to Sub. Whatever is wrong in my brain, the Buprenorphine in Sub fixes it.

I have a hunch you have a similar brain issue to me. If you do you should find a way to get back on Sub. It shouldn't have to always cost $500 a month. They keep putting out coupons for Suboxone, and in time you can get the dose down, so it no longer costs so much. I wonder, what does Heroin cost when your habit goes all the way up? If it's more than $16 a day, then you're still spending $500 a month. You just don't think so because you buy Heroin daily or every few days. Where I live $16 of Heroin is like nothing. That's not even 2 bags of it. Most addicts are using more than 2 bags a day. So I think Sub is still cheaper than Heroin everyday. Not only that but you feel better on Sub and you can put your life back together.

I hope you answer Ruby. We do want to help you.